Sir Alex retires

[sinal]

The one thing he does not have on his CV is trophies, which there are reasons for if you analyse it rationally but he will be having a much better squad and vast more resources than he ever had at Everton. His 1st transfer window at Man United will see him spend more than he did in his 11 combined years at Everton.

I think, when i said that coach Man. United is different than Everton, i mean say that. In Man. United he have much more money, but have much more pressure. It's different coach a team with a good level in EPL, than coach a team that have goals, like, Champions League and fight every year for EPL. It's another level, another galaxy, complete different, he goes spent much more money and he will need to justified that money, 2º place is a bad result in Man. United.
You think is on the level of Mourinho or Wenger?

 

[Cruyff14]

I think, when i said that coach Man. United is different than Everton, i mean say that. In Man. United he have much more money, but have much more pressure. It's different coach a team with a good level in EPL, than coach a team that have goals, like, Champions League and fight every year for EPL. It's another level, another galaxy, complete different, he goes spent much more money and he will need to justified that money, 2º place is a bad result in Man. United.
You think is on the level of Mourinho or Wenger?

I don't meany any offense by this, but is English not your first language?

 

[sinal]

I don't meany any offense by this, but is English not your first language?

No, is not my first language. I'm Portuguese. Sorry my bad english.

 

[Cruyff14]

No, is not my first language. I'm Portuguese. Sorry my bad english.

It's okay. It's still readable Welcome aboard!

 

[Stratton_Gun]

 

[ossie_21]

But you still cannot refute the fact that he has won nothing compare to AVB, which was the original topic

I dunno who the bitter gobshite is, you certainly sound like one. In fact, haven't your club trademarked that term for your own supporters?

I'm not refuting that at all, but considered what he's had to work with & what's been achieved only the the ignorant with tunnel vision can ignore it all. There have been plenty of good managers that haven't won anything

But when it comes down to it, Sir Alex wanted Moyes to succeed him, and pretty sure he's a better judge than anyone on here about skills for the job

 

[glenferry23]

No, is not my first language. I'm Portuguese. Sorry my bad english.

Welcome to this forum

Don't worry, you still make more sense than many others here. You've already got stratton gun covered

 

[Cooldude]

I'm not refuting that at all, but considered what he's had to work with & what's been achieved only the the ignorant with tunnel vision can ignore it all. There have been plenty of good managers that haven't won anything

But when it comes down to it, Sir Alex wanted Moyes to succeed him, and pretty sure he's a better judge than anyone on here about skills for the job

I never once said the ginger isn't a good manager, I merely disagreed with someone's comparison of his appointment with AVB, who actually won things before taking over Chelsea. You're sounding awfully precious

And yet again I didn't question Man Utd's appointment of him at all, I'm sorry that I hit a nerve and you went insane, are you okay?

 

[Magma]

No, is not my first language. I'm Portuguese. Sorry my bad english.

dont worry about it mate. always fantastic to hear opinions from other countries, especially a brilliant footballing nation like portugal.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

So glad CR7 has decided to join our quaint lil board

 

[Cruyff14]

I forgot he played for Porto.

 

[Magma]

I forgot he played for Porto.

so did he

 

[ossie_21]

I never once said the ginger isn't a good manager, I merely disagreed with someone's comparison of his appointment with AVB, who actually won things before taking over Chelsea. You're sounding awfully precious

And yet again I didn't question Man Utd's appointment of him at all, I'm sorry that I hit a nerve and you went insane, are you okay?

I'm fine, just stating facts you must be unaware of, but I'm "scraping the barrel" anyway apparently. If Ferguson wanted AVB to take over that's who they would have gone for

 

[Cooldude]

I'm fine, just stating facts you must be unaware of, but I'm "scraping the barrel" anyway apparently. If Ferguson wanted AVB to take over that's who they would have gone for

So it's completely relevant to bring up manager of the month awards when people were talking about trophies won? That's the very definition of scraping the barrel

Now you're just bringing random shit up that makes no sense

 

[ossie_21]

So it's completely relevant to bring up manager of the month awards when people were talking about trophies won? That's the very definition of scraping the barrel

Now you're just bringing random shit up that makes no sense

You asked what he has achieved, that's your issue if you didn't like the answer/s. No trophies doesn't always make a manager unsuccessful. Yeah they could have gone for another manager somewhere else who has won things like Pereira from Porto, who took over from AVB. But they clearly think the job he has done over his time with Everton makes him very capable to take over

Now, go eat a snickers lol

 

[Cooldude]

You asked what he has achieved, that's your issue if you didn't like the answer/s. No trophies doesn't always make a manager unsuccessful. Yeah they could have gone for another manager somewhere else who has won things like Pereira from Porto, who took over from AVB. But they clearly think the job he has done over his time with Everton makes him very capable to take over

Now, go eat a snickers lol

You're showing yourself as overly precious now, the topic was never about success, it was about trophies won by AVB compare to Moyes. You're just arguing about things that were never mentioned in the first place, just like most bitter fans, they love the persecution complex

And yet again I did not question Moyes's appointment, you're starting a fight in an empty room. You are the one who needs snicker, a kit kat and some mentos, my friend

 

[ossie_21]

You're showing yourself as overly precious now, the topic was never about success, it was about trophies won by AVB compare to Moyes. You're just arguing about things that were never mentioned in the first place, just like most bitter fans, they love the persecution complex

And yet again I did not question Moyes's appointment, you're starting a fight in an empty room. You are the one who needs snicker, a kit kat and some mentos, my friend

You are actually acting too stupid to debate with now. I know you aren't questioning his appointment, unlike you I don't need to be told the same thing several times before I get it. But fine, to make you happy, David Moyes did not win a trophy with Everton.

 

[Cooldude]

You are actually acting too stupid to debate with now. I know you aren't questioning his appointment, unlike you I don't need to be told the same thing several times before I get it. But fine, to make you happy, David Moyes did not win a trophy with Everton.

Well it certainly isn't debatable as to who's the one acting stupid here, and it ain't me

 

[ossie_21]

Well it certainly isn't debatable as to who's the one acting stupid here, and it ain't me

I'm stating facts & a clear opinion, you're trying to take shots at me. But if you want to be an Internet hero & not provide your own, like I said that's your issue

 

[Cooldude]

I'm stating facts & a clear opinion, you're trying to take shots at me. But if you want to be an Internet hero & not provide your own, like I said that's your issue

I provided plenty of facts, and if "You are actually acting too stupid to debate with now" wasn't a shot you were taking at me then I'll be damned. Better to be a hero than a zero, don't you think, zero?

 

[ossie_21]

I provided plenty of facts, and if "You are actually acting too stupid to debate with now" wasn't a shot you were taking at me then I'll be damned. Better to be a hero than a zero, don't you think, zero?

I admit, I fail to see one fact you have stated actually, apart from the fact AVB has won trophies. Enlighten me.

 

[Cooldude]

I admit, I fail to see one fact you have stated actually, apart from the fact AVB has won trophies. Enlighten me.

That manager of the month awards are not "trophies", which was the topic in question?

That the original topic wasn't about the legitimacy of Moyes's appointment but about the comparison between his appointment and AVB's at Chelsea?

That whether Moyes was a good manager or not was never in question, which you seem to have gone through great lengths to defend like someone just hit a nerve with a broadaxe?

You ignored all those facts of course and kept barking away like a mad dog, but go ahead, keep barking away for no reason, I'll enjoy watching it

 

[ossie_21]

That manager of the month awards are not "trophies", which was the topic in question?

That the original topic wasn't about the legitimacy of Moyes's appointment but about the comparison between his appointment and AVB's at Chelsea?

That whether Moyes was a good manager or not was never in question, which you seem to have gone through great lengths to defend like someone just hit a nerve with a broadaxe?

You ignored all those facts of course and kept barking away like a mad dog, but go ahead, keep barking away for no reason, I'll enjoy watching it

Yes the comparison of their appointments is different due to trophies won, of course I know it's different. Most of what I said explains why he got the job despite not winning anything with Everton. Really not a hard concept to grasp mate

 

[Cooldude]

Yes the comparison of their appointments is different due to trophies won, of course I know it's different. Most of what I said explains why he got the job despite not winning anything with Everton. Really not a hard concept to grasp mate

But that wasn't even close to what the original topic was, it was completely irrelevant. It really isn't hard to grasp that at all. You're like the bloke writing down equations in an English exam then get angry when you failed

 

[ossie_21]

But that wasn't even close to what the original topic was, it was completely irrelevant. It really isn't hard to grasp that at all. You're like the bloke writing down equations in an English exam then get angry when you failed

And another shot at me. Whatever makes you happy