Opinion Six $1m players in the AFL in 2019 - GWS with potentially 3 for 2020

[Colonial]

The tigers have 4 solid stars that would get paid what 8 gws players would be getting plus there’s no go home factor for them to have to pay overs

There is no way they are on less than 750k and more likely the argument is are they on a mil or 800k

Really? Why?
They've won 2 flags shouldn't those stars be on big contracts?

There's no way? Really?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Really? Why?
They've won 2 flags shouldn't those stars be on big contracts?

There's no way? Really?

Goes to show a champion team beats a team of champions

Being a franchise club has it’s downfalls

 

[Colonial]

Goes to show a champion team beats a team of champions

Being a franchise club has it’s downfalls

Sooo it's more your dislike of the club that says it can't happen not actually possibilitues. Thought so.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Sooo it's more your dislike of the club that says it can't happen not actually possibilitues. Thought so.

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Not sure how that conclusion came about

 

[Colonial]

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Not sure how that conclusion came about

You went the whole players can stay at clubs but not franchises route.
Pretty straight forward really.

 

[The Nostradamus]

You went the whole players can stay at clubs but not franchises route.
Pretty straight forward really.

Well that’s a point I think would be widely accepted
The franchise clubs interstate will have more issues retaining players wanting to go home

Goes without saying

 

[Engimal v3]

Given that journos report offers to players from opposition clubs that never happened, I take their reporting of salaries with a grain of salt.

 

[Colonial]

Well that’s a point I think would be widely accepted
The franchise clubs interstate will have more issues retaining players wanting to go home

Goes without saying

Enjoy your bubble.

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

Come on mate, it's no stretch of the imagination to think they're all at least 850k+. That's in the realm of a million and all adds up pretty quick. You really think they'd stay for less than that? Getting paid less than what they would elsewhere is one thing, but they're still not staying for peanuts. You think Whitfield, for example, is going to lock himself into 7 years for only ~700k? Plenty of players stay for the love of the club, but they generally still get paid at least close to what they're worth.

Jake Niall reported months after the initial reports (that said 1 mil plus) that Greene is on 750k - and only on 300k this year

The others I’d imagine have a much stronger argument for 1 mil contracts.

Just dojt think you can believe these reports that state salaries like they are fact. The journos clearly don’t really know.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Jake Niall reported months after the initial reports (that said 1 mil plus) that Greene is on 750k - and only on 300k this year

The others I’d imagine have a much stronger argument for 1 mil contracts.

Just dojt think you can believe these reports that state salaries like they are fact. The journos clearly don’t really know.

So Devils advocate whose to say Jake Nialls reports are more factual then the others

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

So Devils advocate whose to say Jake Nialls reports are more factual then the others

no way to know from our end
The fact that Nialls report was a few months later also that he had more detail (i.e.. to 300k for 2019) would suggest that it is closer to the mark than those claiming a mil per at the time of announcement.
It's all just guess work though.

Rather than saying one is right and one is wrong I'm making the point that there is such variance in reports contracts that we can't really take any of it as gospel.

 

[The Nostradamus]

no way to know from our end
The fact that Nialls report was a few months later also that he had more detail (i.e.. to 300k for 2019) would suggest that it is closer to the mark than those claiming a mil per at the time of announcement.
It's all just guess work though.

Rather than saying one is right and one is wrong I'm making the point that there is such variance in reports contracts that we can't really take any of it as gospel.

And this is why all players salaries or at least the top 10 players per club should be made public

no random guess work reports. Players from other clubs knowing what opposition players are on could even lead to more evenness as other players chase money when they realise they are getting paid well unders

 

[j-top]

With Whitfield re-signing being great news for the club on another reported 'mega deal' of 7 years and Cameron reportedly close on a similar deal it would leave the following deals in the last few years.

The questions have to be asked, how much 'ambassadorial' money is flowing into these contracts?

Toby Green - reported 6 years @ $1m a season
Josh Kelly - reported 10 years @ $1m+ a season
Stephen Coniglio - reported 7 years @ $1m a season
Lachie Whitield - reported 7 years @ $1m a season

Tim Taranto - Extended for 2 years in 2019 in a year he went on to win the B&F? $600-$800k estimate.
Jeremy Cameron - Circa $1m deal incoming...

Then there's Hopper, Davis, Shaw, Williams, Himmelberg


The above 6 consume around 50% of the salary cap, with around $170k on average remaining to pay the remainder of the 80% of the playing list.


They've certainly lost a few players along the way, but I don't think there's been a club with more $1m+ deals fit under a single cap than this current Giant's side....

What about the afl handouts for ambassadors roles etc
Player may be getting 1m but only 50% is actually paid for in the cap the rest through the afl slush funds

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

What about the afl handouts for ambassadors roles etc
Player may be getting 1m but only 50% is actually paid for in the cap the rest through the afl slush funds

The same “slush” fund available at the same levels to every single AFL club including yours? That one?

Your club (along with EVERY OTHER CLUB IN THE LEAGUE) has access to $1,159,763 for 2020 under Additional Service Agreements - which can be paid outside the cap. Your club. Who’s getting that money at your club?

This bulls#*t about ambassador payments to Giants players - and only Giants players - has got to f#*ing stop.

Every club - same amount.

 

[Kwality]

No other club has this amount of talent on the big $$$ and these players would not sign for 50% of what they would get from a club 'Back Home' so they are on very good coin. Whitfield,Cameron,Greene,Coniglio,Kelly would all be well in the $1 mil bracket then you have the following players like
Ward,Davies,Toranto,Hopper,Himmelberg,Williams who would all have to be in the $500k range

Not leaving alot for players like Taylor,Green,Hately,Caldwell in a few years time

But players will slip out its just a matter of which ones and can GWS snag a flag or 2 in that time, Its all about the NOW for GWS

Remember players regularly take a hair cut for a flag.

Managing a list is better handled by some clubs, that alone pays for Balmey at the Tiges, others not so high profile of the ex Subi prodigy.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Guess these days of 1mil contracts are Over for awhile

The likely lowering of salary cap I think will hurt the 2 expansion clubs the most for different reasons
Gws cos they have a lot of high end talent on big money and a cap decrease will make life difficult to fit everyone under

Gc have 52 players on their list they will need to cull like crazy to get under

 

[boncer34]

Guess these days of 1mil contracts are Over for awhile

The likely lowering of salary cap I think will hurt the 2 expansion clubs the most for different reasons
Gws cos they have a lot of high end talent on big money and a cap decrease will make life difficult to fit everyone under

Gc have 52 players on their list they will need to cull like crazy to get under

You know all clubs pay 95% of the cap yeah?

 

[The Nostradamus]

You know all clubs pay 95% of the cap yeah?

Yep but north and some others front load to meet the min cap whereas gws backend to stay under The max 105

Blues are paying 105% this year too

 

[boncer34]

Yep but north front load to meet the min cap whereas gws backend to stay under The max 100

Links please

 

[The Nostradamus]

Links please

If you need a link to show why some teams would struggle with a cap squeeze more than others than there’s no point discussing

Teams with more players in their list like gc or more stars on their list On big money like gws will struggle plain and simple

Blues going 105% of the cap is interesting also and will see if that backfires

 

[boncer34]

If you need a link to show why some teams would struggle with a cap squeeze more than others than there’s no point discussing

Teams with more players in their list like gc or more stars on their list On big money like gws will struggle plain and simple

Blues going 105% of the cap is interesting also and will see if that backfires

Oh.

So you don't have any actual evidence.

Hmm, so GWS have potentially 3 players on 1 million dollars but you believe they back ended? Seems more like they front ended. Same as Carlton who are paying more this year.

But front ending is good isn't it? Or is it only good if North, with zero evidence provided, do it?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Oh.

Hmm, so GWS have potentially 3 players on 1 million dollars but you believe they back ended? Seems more like they front ended. Same as Carlton who are paying more this year.

But front ending is good isn't it? Or is it only good if North, with zero evidence provided, do it?

Correct

 

[boncer34]

Correct

Honestly next time you wanna try and take a cheap shot at other clubs put some thought into it.

I say that knowing with your track record there is zero chance you'll listen.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Honestly next time you wanna try and take a cheap shot at other clubs put some thought into it.

I say that knowing with your track record there is zero chance you'll listen.

If I wanted to take a cheap shot I’d bump the Essendon drug saga and how your players have now missed 2 whole seasons recently and the affects of that holistically on their list

But I won’t cos I don’t take cheap shots

 

[boncer34]

If I wanted to take a cheap shot I’d bump the Essendon drug saga and how your players have now missed 2 whole seasons recently and the affects of that holistically on their list

But I won’t cos I don’t take cheap shots

Go ahead. It'd be in line with your usual stuff.