Quolls19
Debutant
- Jul 4, 2019
- 65
- 35
- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
I came across this thread as I was searching for something else, I trust I am not too late to be helpful.
The below was reported in several newspapers of the time, including all the colonies, but below are the best I could cut and paste
Coolgardie Mining Review Saturday 3rd April 1897
“THE VICTORIAN GAME.
The New Victorian Football League has been making radical alterations in
the rules of the Australian game, with the object of rendering it more attractive
to watch. For several seasons the downward trend of the game has been
unmistakeable.”
“Another decide innovation is that which elevates behinds from meaningless
addenda into tangible items in the score. It has been enacted that the
side securing the greater number of points will win the match, and
that a goal shall count six to points, and a behind one." To apportion
fair values to goals and behinds respectively proved a delicate
undertaking , and the ratio of six to one was adopted after long and
careful consideration. Law 5 states that " a behind shall be scored when
the ball is kicked or forced behind without striking either of the behind
posts;" and law 7 enacts that a behind shall be counted when the ball
strikes a goal-post, or is touched at the mark, or in transit before passing
between the posts."”
From the Evening Journal Adelaide Saturday 20th March 1897, which contains the above with this addition
“The trouble was to secure for behinds just so much recognition as would compensate the attacking party without offering an inducement to defenders to help the ball behind.”
Before this, although behinds were recorded and reported, they had no scoring value. Many of the reporters of the day wrote that they should be counted and wrote of moral victories which may have given impetus to the New League, as they also changed some other rules that were not popular with the press.
Interestingly, well I think it is, every colony except South Australia referred to the game as”the Victorian Game”, South Australia refers to the “Australasian Game”. Even so they notified the league that they were adopting most of the new rules including scoring. At the same time they maintained official ties with the VFA through the Australian Football Association and played interstate games against them in 1897.
Also interesting, but probably coincidental, Rugby Union tried to bring in a points systems in 1881 and 1882, as at that time only goals counted (not tries, they were just an opportunity to “try for a goal”). The point system was suggested to reduce the number of draws occurring, which was the same reason the VFL introduced their scoring method.
1882 (rejected):-
"A match shall be decided by points as under: - A goal direct from a place kick from a try shall count 8 pts; A goal dropped from the field of play, 6 pts; A goal from a flying kick 4 points; a try 4 points; a touchdown, a dead ball, or a touch in goal, 1 point each. The team obtaining a majority of four more points to be declared the winner. Any less majority than 4 points to count as a drawn game."
They did introduce a system in 1886
'A match shall be decided by a majority of points. A goal shall equal 3 points, with the exception of a goal kicked from a kick awarded by way of penalty, which shall equal 2 points, and a try 1 point. If the number of points is equal or no goals be kicked or try obtained, the match shall be drawn. When a goal is kicked from a try, the goal only is scored.'
It has been largely forgotten that a try had no scoring value at all in the early years.
The below was reported in several newspapers of the time, including all the colonies, but below are the best I could cut and paste
Coolgardie Mining Review Saturday 3rd April 1897
“THE VICTORIAN GAME.
The New Victorian Football League has been making radical alterations in
the rules of the Australian game, with the object of rendering it more attractive
to watch. For several seasons the downward trend of the game has been
unmistakeable.”
“Another decide innovation is that which elevates behinds from meaningless
addenda into tangible items in the score. It has been enacted that the
side securing the greater number of points will win the match, and
that a goal shall count six to points, and a behind one." To apportion
fair values to goals and behinds respectively proved a delicate
undertaking , and the ratio of six to one was adopted after long and
careful consideration. Law 5 states that " a behind shall be scored when
the ball is kicked or forced behind without striking either of the behind
posts;" and law 7 enacts that a behind shall be counted when the ball
strikes a goal-post, or is touched at the mark, or in transit before passing
between the posts."”
From the Evening Journal Adelaide Saturday 20th March 1897, which contains the above with this addition
“The trouble was to secure for behinds just so much recognition as would compensate the attacking party without offering an inducement to defenders to help the ball behind.”
Before this, although behinds were recorded and reported, they had no scoring value. Many of the reporters of the day wrote that they should be counted and wrote of moral victories which may have given impetus to the New League, as they also changed some other rules that were not popular with the press.
Interestingly, well I think it is, every colony except South Australia referred to the game as”the Victorian Game”, South Australia refers to the “Australasian Game”. Even so they notified the league that they were adopting most of the new rules including scoring. At the same time they maintained official ties with the VFA through the Australian Football Association and played interstate games against them in 1897.
Also interesting, but probably coincidental, Rugby Union tried to bring in a points systems in 1881 and 1882, as at that time only goals counted (not tries, they were just an opportunity to “try for a goal”). The point system was suggested to reduce the number of draws occurring, which was the same reason the VFL introduced their scoring method.
1882 (rejected):-
"A match shall be decided by points as under: - A goal direct from a place kick from a try shall count 8 pts; A goal dropped from the field of play, 6 pts; A goal from a flying kick 4 points; a try 4 points; a touchdown, a dead ball, or a touch in goal, 1 point each. The team obtaining a majority of four more points to be declared the winner. Any less majority than 4 points to count as a drawn game."
They did introduce a system in 1886
'A match shall be decided by a majority of points. A goal shall equal 3 points, with the exception of a goal kicked from a kick awarded by way of penalty, which shall equal 2 points, and a try 1 point. If the number of points is equal or no goals be kicked or try obtained, the match shall be drawn. When a goal is kicked from a try, the goal only is scored.'
It has been largely forgotten that a try had no scoring value at all in the early years.