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Skills & Errors

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The art of the kick out and overcoming the new rush behind rule. Why can't Freo' pioneer and develop a kick arse game style in this area. It wouldn't hurt...
 
I know he's young but I'd like to see Suban kicking in. Makes great decisions, has a lovely kick and doesnt waste possessions.
 
Split Personality said:
I know he's young but I'd like to see Suban kicking in. Makes great decisions, has a lovely kick and doesnt waste possessions.
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good call, suban is going to be a fantastic player. very excited

i noticed a few things in this game.

1. gilmore is horrible and should never play a senior game again, however he wasnt the only poor player, head, bradley, johnson, dodd, mcpharlin, grover and sandilands should all take a look in the mirror, they have all been very ordinary this year

2. this bloody stupid rolling zone is KILLING us... i understand the theory behind it, and it works well for hawthorn who have hodge, guerra, birchall, young etc etc etc kicking the ball around.... but for a team that has next to zero skill, it is a horrible plan, and it only exasserbates our poor skill level... if we are going to copy a teams game plan (but i owuld hope that harvey could come up with something of his own) then we should copy geelongs, no fuss, straight down the corridor, play on at all cost... it is effective and looks a hell of a lot better than the shambles that we have seen this year.

3. the rolling zone is killing pavlich.... for a couple of reasons, firstly, the plan requires pavlich to venture too far up the ground, resulting in him not being in dangerous positions, secondly for us to get the ball to him, it requires a greater level of skill level, due to the crowding of our forward line that results, and we simply do not have the skill level to hit him up.

4. stephen hill has been unfairly maligned, he showed desperation yesterday, skill, speed and an apitite for the contest. he will be a sensationsal player.

5. nic suba is going to be a jet, skills, hardness and desperation have oozed from this kid from the first time he stepped onto the field.. very impressed

6. we are mentally fragile.... the fact that we lose our heads the second a team kicks a couple in a row against us is a horrible thing to see. you can virtually see the confidence drift away and it is weak from the players, and something that needs to be addressed, you can have 22 of the most talented footballers in the league all playing in the one side, but if they are mentally weak, then they will lose more than they win, it is harvey's job to make sure that the players either toughen up or piss off....
 
Kickett Punches Read said:
2. this bloody stupid rolling zone is KILLING us... it only exasserbates our poor skill level... if we are going to copy a teams game plan (but i owuld hope that harvey could come up with something of his own) then we should copy geelongs, no fuss, straight down the corridor, play on at all cost... it is effective and looks a hell of a lot better than the shambles that we have seen this year.

3. the rolling zone is killing pavlich....

4. stephen hill has been unfairly maligned, he showed desperation yesterday, skill, speed and an apitite for the contest. he will be a sensationsal player.

5. nic suba is going to be a jet,

6. we are mentally fragile.... if they are mentally weak, then they will lose more than they win, it is harvey's job to make sure that the players either toughen up or piss off....
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Great points KPR - but I'm not sure we have the footskills to copy Geebung.

Pav is just being destroyed by the zone, and it also really undermines the options when we rest Sandi down forward, or when Taz is at CHF. I can see no valid reason for us even trying to learn it - all it does is undermine the need to be individually accountable, close checking and stay with your man - and with our line-up it kills our rebound options. I say we either man up or flood.

BTW - love the word "exasserbates" - sums up the effect of Freo's current playing strategy on my blood pressure just nicely...
 

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BeinPurplenGreen said:
Great points KPR - but I'm not sure we have the footskills to copy Geebung.

Pav is just being destroyed by the zone, and it also really undermines the options when we rest Sandi down forward, or when Taz is at CHF. I can see no valid reason for us even trying to learn it - all it does is undermine the need to be individually accountable, close checking and stay with your man - and with our line-up it kills our rebound options. I say we either man up or flood.

BTW - love the word "exasserbates" - sums up the effect of Freo's current playing strategy on my blood pressure just nicely...
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i agree we dont have the skills that geelong do, however i would rather us lose and make mistakes while trying to be direct and take the game on, than lose and make mistakes in the crappy, ugly manner that we are at the moment.

hehe i bring the english lit out every now and then, god knows doing that course hasnt really helped me as an electrician, so i have to use it here ;)
 
Danlington said:
What ever happened to the style of play which got us to a preliminary final?
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Something to do with the cattle, though in general any player can move the ball on as quickly as possible. We just hold onto it for far too long, and when we do move it, it's without any real purpose.
 
Yesterday was the worst display of skills and decision making I've seen since the Neesham days. It was so bad it was comical... literally comical.

I swear, at times in the 1st half it was so bad I couldn't even get mad. I was just shaking my head and laughing. That's the sort of zen approach I'm going to have to adopt from now on or this season is going to kill me.
 
estibador said:
Yesterday was the worst display of skills and decision making I've seen since the Neesham days. It was so bad it was comical... literally comical.

I swear, at times in the 1st half it was so bad I couldn't even get mad. I was just shaking my head and laughing. That's the sort of zen approach I'm going to have to adopt from now on or this season is going to kill me.
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I may have to adopt the same approach otherwise the part of my brain which controls emotions will melt out my nose...
 
estibador said:
Yesterday was the worst display of skills and decision making I've seen since the Neesham days. It was so bad it was comical... literally comical.

I swear, at times in the 1st half it was so bad I couldn't even get mad. I was just shaking my head and laughing. That's the sort of zen approach I'm going to have to adopt from now on or this season is going to kill me.
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Me too. Then like a devious ex-lover they teased us back into caring again by getting in front only to complete the humiliation by slipping out the back door again.
 
E Shed said:
Me too. Then like a devious ex-lover they teased us back into caring again by getting in front only to complete the humiliation by slipping out the back door again.
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I thought that only happened to me?? And did they take your wallet and Freo doona too???

Damn, there's more to life on this board than I thought...
 
I'm confused! I thought the zone was a defensive strategy. We can't choose to employ it whenwe have the ball, we have to pick through the zone that Adelaide set up. Or we move the ball as quick as possible (play on etc etc) this gives PAva a much better chance to score.
 

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Let me say straight up that Sundays game was the single worst game of football I have ever sat through. Painful to watch, but lets look at the factors:
Adelaide are renowned for building a game around stoppages, they smother a game to within an inch of its life and not very exciting to watch. They seem to have combined their traditional flood with this "rolling zone" garbage that is in vogue at the moment so in effect their were 36 players within the two 50 metre arcs (a midfield flood).
Time and time again we could not find our way through this congestion and alot of our kicks were intercepted. With inexperienced players we are going to struggle to work our way through these scenarios, there also doesn't seem to be much direction from the coaching box as to how to negate these flooding tactics.
Maybe having clusters of players to kick to will provide numbers at a contest when the opposition are zoning is one method of maintaining possession.
Keep Pav on the goal line so we at least have a chance of reward for the long bomb forward when we run into trouble through the middle. This may negate the chronic handballing in circles trying to find a path through the maze.
I'm definately no coach but there have to be some ideas coming from our box on this, at the moment I can't see any.
 

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