The Dominator7
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OK be gentle, I’ve never started a thread before, but I had a bit of time to myself whilst on leave.
We’ve been banging on about it in other threads and our CEO has even stated it publicly - we are after a small forward. So I went through the 18 primary lists to see all the available candidates in the system - I left out rookies aside from Stack as I am presuming we want someone ready to go. Originally I thought this might be part of 2019 list management thread, but it’s not really, it’s about laying the small foward landscape out there in detail for all to see and having a BF poll on who we could REALISTICALLY target and acquire for 2020 in the upcoming trade period.
BlueAbroad - I know you guys have touched on this in one of your clips, but given our CEO’s comments, this might be an interesting topic for an in-depth stats assessment based on the poll results.
Now lets be real clear - I’m talking your real sniper small forwards who love pressure and goals - your Aaron Davey/Eddie Betts/ Steven Milne types. I’m not talking about those high HFF’s that are really spare/developing mids, or those mids mature that haven’t made it in that position, as I think we have those bases well covered for now in JSOS, Fish, SPS, Gibbo, Dow, Kennedy, Setters, et al
OK so here is my full list including brief reason below - I haven’t checked contract status - and the ones I’ve deemed most likely have been put in the poll, along with state league and national draft options....lets discuss!!!
Adelaide (None in the poll)
Essendon (1 in the poll)
We’ve been banging on about it in other threads and our CEO has even stated it publicly - we are after a small forward. So I went through the 18 primary lists to see all the available candidates in the system - I left out rookies aside from Stack as I am presuming we want someone ready to go. Originally I thought this might be part of 2019 list management thread, but it’s not really, it’s about laying the small foward landscape out there in detail for all to see and having a BF poll on who we could REALISTICALLY target and acquire for 2020 in the upcoming trade period.
BlueAbroad - I know you guys have touched on this in one of your clips, but given our CEO’s comments, this might be an interesting topic for an in-depth stats assessment based on the poll results.
Now lets be real clear - I’m talking your real sniper small forwards who love pressure and goals - your Aaron Davey/Eddie Betts/ Steven Milne types. I’m not talking about those high HFF’s that are really spare/developing mids, or those mids mature that haven’t made it in that position, as I think we have those bases well covered for now in JSOS, Fish, SPS, Gibbo, Dow, Kennedy, Setters, et al
OK so here is my full list including brief reason below - I haven’t checked contract status - and the ones I’ve deemed most likely have been put in the poll, along with state league and national draft options....lets discuss!!!
Adelaide (None in the poll)
- Eddie - too old
- Murphy - no shown enough yet
- Stengle - just arrived, unlikely to move this off season
- McAdam - unproven and could have had him last year if remotely interested
- McHenry - like him but unproven at the level, talented, contracted and it’s Adealaide...price would outweigh performance to date
- Charlie - no chance
- McCarthy - highly unlikely given went there on 3 year deal, best mates with Neale, and Brissie firing
- Lewis Taylor - yes as a sniper/pressure type, won the RS in front of the Bont so we know he has talent. Made to play further up ground by Leppa and stagnated. Now a clear 3rd choice, but I think he can play and would cost very little in $$$ and picks
- Zorko - going nowhere
- Christensen - age, injury and current standard put him well down the order
- Elliott - Yes, gettable but buyer beware with his body, makes the poll but not sure he’d be at the top purely due to durability
- Thomas - solid player but not what we’re after in terms of small fwd
- Stevo - no chance Pies let him go anywhere
- Daicos - showing a little bit this year, but unlikely given name and production levels
Essendon (1 in the poll)
- Fantasia - no for me as the price would be too high - 2 years left on contract, plus already indicated to Ess he’s heading home
- Tippa - Yes please....mystery to me as to why he remains out of contract
- Mosquito - shown nothing yet, likely requires a lot of development
- Ballantyne - no, he’s cooked
- Walters - unrealistic, I doubt he’s gettable, no noise to indicate he’d want a change and would cost plenty
- Switkowski - not shown enough
- Matera - just moved home to Freo, highly unlikely to move
- Dalhaus- just moved to Cats as FA on long deal - no chance he moves
- Myers - yes please but not exactly realistic being a Falcons boys, a dream get as young but exactly what we are after. Would take big $$$ to prise him out, how is Cats cap??
- Atkins - unlikely to be any better than what we have, decent role player but fully developed already
- Narkle and Fogarty - not developed enough
- Rohan - went home last year - going nowhere
- Ainsworth and Sexton - contracts recently extended so very very unlikely
- Ah Chee - yes - talented but injured lots of upside under AR
- Martin - don’t consider to be a small pressure goal kicking forward but included here so you don’t think I forgot him
- McPherson - yes, plenty of upside with this guy, needs more goals but playing well (broken leg 2018), not sure of his contract status
- Young - plenty of better options
- Lemmens - manic pressure but skills iffy, been injured for most of last 2 seasons so hard to gauge.
- Daniels - progressing nicely, doesn’t kick a lot of goals yet, in the poll but others well ahead
- Langdon - matter recruit, behind Daniels in pecking order, not quite good enough
- Greene - gun but going nowhere with long term contract
- Hill - exactly what we’re after but unlikely as a 1st year draftee, but included in the poll as ties to our WA boys and $$$ could factor in
- The Chad - unlikely as just lured there on a long term deal
- Poppy - on his last legs, too old
- Breust - IMO he is a classic downhill skier, albeit a very good one goal kicking and pressuring from behind wise (by that I mean he sits back and waits for his opponent to take the ball before tackling rather than get the ball himself)
- Ross - playing ressies and scoring but can’t get a look in - lots of work to do on fitness.
- Jeffy - sorry mate, likely to be delisted...5% chance as a DFA but well down our preferred list.
- Kennedy Harris - not at the required level
- BEdford - NGA kid this year, no idea how he’s going in ressies but well down any list we might have
- Spargo - struggling this year, one to consider but a lot of development to come
- Turner - OK player, not sure he’s on the “pursue” list but we’ll put him in the poll
- Thomas - bit of a stretch, playing mostly small fwd but likely moves up the ground as he gets more mature, not included in poll.
- Sam Gray - in the media liked to us so goes in the poll
- Butters - love to have him but like McHenery at Adel, he would come at a huge price of not a lot of production at this age
- Farrell - probably gettable and looks to know where the goals are. Is he more HFF than small fwd??
- Robbie Gray - gun but never gonna happen and probably a bit old now...next
- Stack - my absolute 1st preference as can also play back but it’s a pipe dream, however it might mean we can shakeout others below...they can’t pay them all and surely someone is gonna leak out...pretty happy club though so maybe not
- Rioli - long term contract, having fitness issues but long term not gonna happen
- Bolton - OOC and absolutely gettable - exactly what we need, not happy he played so well last week!!
- Higgins - not sure of his contract status but smart and skilled - exactly what we need, best 22 in any other fwd line
- Baker - really rate this kid, small but versatile like Caleb Daniel - would slot in our fwd line easy and a WA boy with Fish and SPS
- Castagna - just resigned at Tigers I believe, fast as hell but untidy, not sure why he’s getting a game in front of Higgins/Baker
- Butler - Last in line but can still play a role, well behind others
- Jack Lonie- could have got him last year before he signed a decent deal from memory
- Matty Parker - handy pick up for saints in draft, probably not a target though
- Robbie Young - another mature age draftee from last year so unlikely
- Papley- the main target for us mentioned here and in media...1 year left on contract, coming home, yes please
- Ronke- burst on scene and kicked 7 as a rookie, struggled this year but plenty to like if he can develop further
- Ryan - not going to get him out of WA, reckon if he was interstate he’d be doing a Tim Kelly go home
- Cripps - WA boy who left Saints to go home - 27 and not leaving now
- Rioli - would be ideal, not sure of contract status and nothing mentioned in any rumour/whisper - not likely but you’d have to ask.
- Cameron - WA NGA kid, first year, not going anywhere
- Could not see a pure small forward on their list.....