So the Syrian Army are the good guys now?

[WeetBixKid]

More bombings by Israel. IMO we'll see them continue working with ISIS to turn Syria into a failed state while at the same time "fighting" them in the more irrelevent Sinai to keep up appearances.

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

More bombings by Israel. IMO we'll see them continue working with ISIS to turn Syria into a failed state while at the same time "fighting" them in the more irrelevent Sinai to keep up appearances.

Ha! Gotta love an attempt at spin that tries to include the inconvenient facts that you know will be the obvious comeback to your theory.

You claim Israel is working with ISIS and fighting them, but use quote marks, as if somehow death and destruction isn't really "fighting". Ridiculous.

Once again, the pro-Assad/Russia narrative hopes that people are dumb. Israel is both anti-Assad/Iran AND anti-ISIS. ISIS and Assad are also fighting each other. To state the obvious: There can be more that two sides in a conflict. There can be more than one bad dictator in the world. It's possible to criticise Israel for bombing someone you like while being grateful they're bombing ISIS.

Less spin, and more links to the actual news please.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Ha! Gotta love an attempt at spin that tries to include the inconvenient facts that you know will be the obvious comeback to your theory.

You claim Israel is working with ISIS and fighting them, but use quote marks, as if somehow death and destruction isn't really "fighting". Ridiculous.

Once again, the pro-Assad/Russia narrative hopes that people are dumb. Israel is both anti-Assad/Iran AND anti-ISIS. ISIS and Assad are also fighting each other. To state the obvious: There can be more that two sides in a conflict. There can be more than one bad dictator in the world. It's possible to criticise Israel for bombing someone you like while being grateful they're bombing ISIS.

Less spin, and more links to the actual news please.

Christ, you are clueless.

 

[WeetBixKid]

Ha! Gotta love an attempt at spin that tries to include the inconvenient facts that you know will be the obvious comeback to your theory.

You claim Israel is working with ISIS and fighting them, but use quote marks, as if somehow death and destruction isn't really "fighting". Ridiculous.

Once again, the pro-Assad/Russia narrative hopes that people are dumb. Israel is both anti-Assad/Iran AND anti-ISIS. ISIS and Assad are also fighting each other. To state the obvious: There can be more that two sides in a conflict. There can be more than one bad dictator in the world. It's possible to criticise Israel for bombing someone you like while being grateful they're bombing ISIS.

Less spin, and more links to the actual news please.

Israel's against ISIS against when it suits them, which is practically never. East/north of Sinai they'll be happy to remain neutral & indirectly assist them.

If you want links here's something that happened the other day. You really don't think ISIS & Israel have some kind of mutual understanding in Syria?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/

 

[Procrastinator35]

Israel's against ISIS against when it suits them, which is practically never. East/north of Sinai they'll be happy to remain neutral & indirectly assist them.

If you want links here's something that happened the other day. You really don't think ISIS & Israel have some kind of mutual understanding in Syria?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/

There's a bit of a sick joke on behalf of the Neo-cons....They created & named ISIS, which originally stood for the Israeli secret intelligent service.

The C.I.A love re-naming things in an attempt to bamboozle via dialectical nomenclature....Al Qaeda simply refers to the list of Mujaheddin, who were left over from the old Afghan wars.....These latest 'splinter-groups' are just more of the same bullshit shenanigans.

The end goal has always been the prize of Damascus for Israel & the destruction of any strong & democratic Arabic states that are near to it....Lets call it Zionist Paranoia made manifest....The other side of a power complex.

The U.S is merely the military arm of the Zionist neo-cons world stage now.....They are bleeding that country dry while simultaneously destroying the last vestiges of it's democratic institutions.....Until people all over the world wake-up to the globalist corporate fascist regime, then things will only get worse.

Putin is one such man who knows exactly what's going on & what their game is....That is why they hate him....And that is why he is the number 1 enemy....Followed by Assange.

It's not all that difficult to read this play-book.

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

Israel's against ISIS against when it suits them, which is practically never. East/north of Sinai they'll be happy to remain neutral & indirectly assist them.

If you want links here's something that happened the other day. You really don't think ISIS & Israel have some kind of mutual understanding in Syria?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/

The link is much more informative and realistic (i.e. doesn't indulge in spin). Thanks.

 

[cannot]

The link is much more informative and realistic (i.e. doesn't indulge in spin). Thanks.

yeah good solid source 'timesofisrael'

 

[Procrastinator35]

yeah good solid source 'timesofisrael'

LOL....Ratts is an absolute beaut.....He'll toe the MSM BS to his grave.

"One must have trust in one's authorities".....Remember to salute the flag.

Wake up time: All our 'authorities have been bought off, sold & paid off....And it is the average man, whom they have sold out.....Democracy for sale, at any price.

 

[cannot]

LOL....Ratts is an absolute beaut.....He'll toe the MSM BS to his grave.

"One must have trust in one's authorities".....Remember to salute the flag.

Wake up time: All our 'authorities have been bought off, sold & paid off....And it is the average man, whom they have sold out.....Democracy for sale, at any price.

all information much be approved by the zionist ministry of peace

as predictable as clockwork

 

[MaddAdam]

Coalition air strikes on PMU (Kaitab Ali Husayn blah blah, Shia militia) convoy in southern Syria, that was airlifted in by Iran to try and secure the border crossings between Deir Ezzor amd the southwestern corner of Syria near the Jordanian border held by "FSA".

This is the crunch time moment folks.

Iraqi/Shia forces are about to take Mosul. Once that is done they can - and have said they will - stream on to reinforce beleaguered SAA forces in Syria and keep fighting Daesh. I doubt, and quite rightly, they will draw much of a distinction between Daesh and "our" Sunni rebels like Nusra and Ahrar and Jaish Al Islam.

Far more importantly though, if the Shia get that border bridgehead link up, there's a direct land bridge from Tehran to the Meditarannean.

The great dream of Iranian strategists and Israel's worst nightmare - a secure supply line for Hezbollah.

Reports of significant numbers of US/UK SOFs working with the "rebels" in that part of Syria, desperate to stop the Iraqi/Shia units and SAA linking up.

Things could get very real very quick.

 

[awaremind]

Coalition air strikes on PMU (Kaitab Ali Husayn blah blah, Shia militia) convoy in southern Syria, that was airlifted in by Iran to try and secure the border crossings between Deir Ezzor amd the southwestern corner of Syria near the Jordanian border held by "FSA".

This is the crunch time moment folks.

Iraqi/Shia forces are about to take Mosul. Once that is done they can - and have said they will - stream on to reinforce beleaguered SAA forces in Syria and keep fighting Daesh. I doubt, and quite rightly, they will draw much of a distinction between Daesh and "our" Sunni rebels like Nusra and Ahrar and Jaish Al Islam.

Far more importantly though, if the Shia get that border bridgehead link up, there's a direct land bridge from Tehran to the Meditarannean.

The great dream of Iranian strategists and Israel's worst nightmare - a secure supply line for Hezbollah.

Reports of significant numbers of US/UK SOFs working with the "rebels" in that part of Syria, desperate to stop the Iraqi/Shia units and SAA linking up.

Things could get very real very quick.

Then they (western-gulf coalition) have to attack anti-Isis coalition partners again, in the Shia pmu... who the USA is allied with in Iraq.... I think if trump can stay president, there is some chance he can realign against turkey, and gulf and saud. lol. Unlikely.

 

[MaddAdam]

Then they (western-gulf coalition) have to attack anti-Isis coalition partners again, in the Shia pmu... who the USA is allied with in Iraq.... I think if trump can stay president, there is some chance he can realign against turkey, and gulf and saud. lol. Unlikely.

Yeah, is like when they "accidentally" killed 100 of the SAA and allied forces still holding the airbase in Deir Ezzor. Doing everything possible to keep a Sunni buffer between PMU and SAA.

But if Iran airlifting forces over border,makes it hard. Key will be if Russia says it will fly cover for them.

Reports that US gave Russians warning if attack on Kaitab convoy and Russians advised Kaitab to withdraw, but they chose not to.

Makes sense. Iran never been afraid of creating martyrs and a US attack on their forces suits hardliners in Tehran given it came day before voting.

I don't see how US stops Shia forces securing at least some of the border unless they are willing to do toe to toe on ground. And as immensely capable as SOFs are, Shia have huge numerical advantage and are battle hardened after fighting all the way up the Euphrates from Baghdad to Mosul.

 

[MaddAdam]

Also the Iranians spent the 2003 - 2010 Iraq fight very carefully working out US capabilities and vulnerabilities precisely for a moment like this.

 

[awaremind]

Yeah, is like when they "accidentally" killed 100 of the SAA and allied forces still holding the airbase in Deir Ezzor. Doing everything possible to keep a Sunni buffer between PMU and SAA.

But if Iran airlifting forces over border,makes it hard. Key will be if Russia says it will fly cover for them.

Reports that US gave Russians warning if attack on Kaitab convoy and Russians advised Kaitab to withdraw, but they chose not to.

Makes sense. Iran never been afraid of creating martyrs and a US attack on their forces suits hardliners in Tehran given it came day before voting.

I don't see how US stops Shia forces securing at least some of the border unless they are willing to do toe to toe on ground. And as immensely capable as SOFs are, Shia have huge numerical advantage and are battle hardened after fighting all the way up the Euphrates from Baghdad to Mosul.

Yes, if anti Assad Coalition fails they will leave behind very experienced and hardline forces who will remember what happened here for a long time.

 

[awaremind]

Also the Iranians spent the 2003 - 2010 Iraq fight very carefully working out US capabilities and vulnerabilities precisely for a moment like this.

It's time to win this war for pro Assad coalition, if they flood in numbers now, various jihadists are ****ed, hoped fully leaving behind actual moderates if they exist.

 

[MaddAdam]

Yes, if anti Assad Coalition fails they will leave behind very experienced and hardline forces who will remember what happened here for a long time.

Hezbollah have already gained immense experience. The kind of experience they could never have got otherwise.

Now they know how to coordinate with armour, with substantial close air support, as part of very large attacking formations.

The Hezbollah commanders embedded with Russians and SAA and IRGC in the command posts during the siege of Aleppo are what Israel fears most. They now can fight fully networked warfare, with real time drone battlefield streams, on the ground spotters, all building the picture for armour, air and infantry to coordinate from.

If the Shia land bridge holds, suddenly Israel faces battle tested -.they won in Aleppo - commanders who will have access to the material that Iran can send up the land bridge. The armour etc.

Israel is still by far and away the most powerful actor in the region. But short it fighting a long term ground War it doesn't have manpower for, it one suspects the public stomach for, it will have to accept Iranian hegemony up to its borders.

The Iranians won't provoke Israel into an existential threat where it can justify first strike nukes. But they will have them contained and the dream of Greater Israel ... from the sea to the Euphrates ... back in dreamland.

 

[MaddAdam]

It's time to win this war for pro Assad coalition, if they flood in numbers now, various jihadists are ******, hoped fully leaving behind actual moderates if they exist.

The moderates were killed by Salafis or bailed for Germany four years ago.

Read The Crossing. The author shows from on the ground reporting that it had become a straight sectarian fight by early 20!3.

 

[Procrastinator35]

More U.S atrocities in Syria.....Mass civilian casualties in Raqqa, 160,000 displaced....The media hypocrisy continues unabated.

 

[awaremind]

More U.S atrocities in Syria.....Mass civilian casualties in Raqqa, 160,000 displaced....The media hypocrisy continues unabated.

Where's the media hysteria like over Aleppo? Laughable media is nothing but propaganda.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Where's the media hysteria like over Aleppo? Laughable media is nothing but propaganda.

It's a world wide disgrace.....And Mosul has been little different of late....Tens of thousands murdered in a last ditch effort at oil field & land grabs with implanted proxy's.



But as this man, who paid with his life has told us.....The intel agencies now run the MSM throughout the U.S & Europe.

 

[nut]

Philippines upset the US because they didnt give a s**t about the islands in the south China Sea.
So ISIS turns up in the Philippines... then the US turn up uninvited... ????

 

[awaremind]

Philippines upset the US because they didnt give a s**t about the islands in the south China Sea.
So ISIS turns up in the Philippines... then the US turn up uninvited... ????

https://southfront.org/eye-witnesses-hundreds-dead-bodies-marawi/

 

[MaddAdam]

Jeez it is weird old world at the moment.

So in Raqqa the US is flying close air support for deeply secular Kurdish fighters taking on Daesh.

In Deir-ez-Zor, the US is flying close air support for Daesh as they take on deeply secular SAA forces.

Push is very rapidly coming to shove in that part of the world. Does the US swallow its pride and accept that the Iranians came out of the chaos thrown up by the 2003 invasion best? The likes of Mattis and McMaster have massive hard ons for confronting Iran, because they know that half a century of US strategy in the Middle East is unravelling before their eyes, and if ... when ... the Iranians secure the land route from Tehran to Beirut via Baghdad and Damascus, it changes the entire strategic calculus of the region.

Interesting that the US is publicly backing Qatar now with the sale of the F-15.

Either the US has some grand master plan that is yet to come to fruition or, they have absolutely NFI what to do and are basically making s**t up as they go along.

Recent history suggests the second option there.

 

[Mofra]

Interesting that the US is publicly backing Qatar now with the sale of the F-15.

Almost bizarre on the back of Trump's public schmoozing of the Sauds and the inner-Sunni diplomatic shitfight occurring now around the gulf.

 

[awaremind]

Almost bizarre on the back of Trump's public schmoozing of the Sauds and the inner-Sunni diplomatic shitfight occurring now around the gulf.

Literally one week , condemns them for supporting terror, next week sells them 3 billion worth of planes.