South Africa tour of England (3 ODI, 3 T20's and 3 Tests- July to September 2022)

[NYRB]

Nice to see England progress the game 84 runs off 16 overs shows their intent with this being a 3 day test match . Will surely look to bat at around 4-5 an over tomorrow and have a few overs at the South AFrican top order tomorrow evening

 

[NYRB]

What lead are England looking at before declaring? would 250 be enough?

 

[t_94]

Can't wait to see the SA side out here later in the year. I'd be surprised if one test goes the journey. Both sides have good bowling attacks both sides have s**t batting line ups, we have a slightly less s**t one, that's why we'll win.

Australia have a s**t batting lineup, particularly when playing in Australia. Ok…

 

[corbies]

What lead are England looking at before declaring? would 250 be enough?

40

 

[NYRB]

40

This could be over inside 2 days.

 

[010203]

Jansen bowled just 74 deliveries for his 5 wicket haul. That'll help his strike rate.

 

[NYRB]

South Africa by bowling them out cheaply have given themselves an outside chance of winning this now.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Bizarre non-referral from Elgar. Didn’t even seem to consider it.

Could well cost them the series.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Here comes the collapse.

Elgar has completely stuffed this.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Lol and now they review one that is absolutely plumb. SA really losing the plot now.

 

[NYRB]

England look like they want to finish this today

Need 90 runs off 25 overs or so

 

[western royboy]

Whatever your thoughts…it’s not high quality cricket is it

 

[fs88]

At the end of the day the SA selectors are at fault for losing the series - dropping Jansen for the 2nd test was criminal.

They should've kept Markram in for Verreynne and made Markram keep. Verreynne is on par with Sibley and Burns as one of the worst international batsmen I've ever seen.

 

[NYRB]

The thing is given Day 4 ended around 25 overs short of the scheduled 98 or whatever, South Africas lack of application to at least bat another 20 overs or so yesterday could have easily been the difference between a draw and England win now.

Im thinking even South Africa may be wanted the game done and dusted yesterday.

 

[The Passenger]

Whatever your thoughts…it’s not high quality cricket is it

It's been a very disappointing series.

The batting has been simply woeful.

Obviously both teams have good bowling attacks but some of the shot selection and application is barely first class level.

 

[Plugger35]

Hardly worth the two teams turning up today with England only needing 33 more runs to win, can't imagine there would be many spectators there.

At the end of the day the SA selectors are at fault for losing the series - dropping Jansen for the 2nd test was criminal.

They should've kept Markram in for Verreynne and made Markram keep. Verreynne is on par with Sibley and Burns as one of the worst international batsmen I've ever seen.

Markram hasn't been setting the world on fire with his batting in tests either so I don't think that would have made much difference.

The South African batting stocks are as bad as I can remember, even their first choice batting line up looks flimsy and they don't have much depth.

They brought Rickelton, Zondo and Mulder in for this test and none of them look like test standard batsmen from what they showed in their two innings.

 

[western royboy]

It's been a very disappointing series.

The batting has been simply woeful.

Obviously both teams have good bowling attacks but some of the shot selection and application is barely first class level.

Long form technique is in decline everywhere…it’s not hard to see why

 

[freddy mercury]

You'd be spewing if you're paid by the day.

 

[The Passenger]

By my calculations, Anderson and Broad have finished the series four wickets shy of McGrath and Warne for most test wickets as a duo. 1001 to 997.

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It'd be a pretty big surprise if they didn't play another test together which will mean at least an additional 29 tests more than the great Aussies.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Not many sides in the world have capable batting lineups, Australia's is one of the best and even ours isn't really world class.

 

[t_94]

Not many sides in the world have capable batting lineups, Australia's is one of the best and even ours isn't really world class.

I really think the lack of proper warm up games due to tight schedules is a key factor in this.

 

[royboy2]

By my calculations, Anderson and Broad have finished the series four wickets shy of McGrath and Warne for most test wickets as a duo. 1001 to 997.

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It'd be a pretty big surprise if they didn't play another test together which will mean at least an additional 29 tests more than the great Aussies.

This is very impressive, especially given they never got the opportunity to bowl to England in the 90s

 

[The Passenger]

This is very impressive, especially given they never got the opportunity to bowl to England in the 90s

Anderson and Broad are very good bowlers, there's no doubting that.

But aggregate records of modern day test cricketers are getting very skewed to the English, who play a couple of additional tests a year which over time adds up greatly.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

W

Anderson and Broad are very good bowlers, there's no doubting that.

But aggregate records of modern day test cricketers are getting very skewed to the English, who play a couple of additional tests a year which over time adds up greatly.

Anderson still just about their best bowler at 40 years old. Doesn't say much about the depth. Both he and Broad should be starting to be fazed out if they had proper replacements ready. Papering over cracks both batting and bowling IMO. Standard of these test teams is downright shocking ATM. Both England openers barely average 35 in first class cricket.