South Africa Vs Sri Lanka 3 Tests 5 ODI

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I love it how our medium pacers such as Hilfenhaus are apparently bowling 140-150 yet you got Dale Steyn ripping it through and is only bowling 135kph. I think Ch9 got so obsessed with the Shaun Tait factor they're fudging speeds, or they've cut costs and gone with cheaper speed guns which can be switched to 'wild thing' mode.
ask almost anyone involved in cricket and they'll tell you the speed guns in south africa are slower. they never seem to make sense.

last year dale steyn was harldy hitting 140 bowling to india - some of the best bowling (and batting against him) i've seen on a test cricket field. tehre was no was he was bowling slower than we were against england... and he was swinging it like there was no tomorrow.
 

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Could have to do with where the gun is pointed. Is it reading straight from the hand in Australia but after it pitches in South Africa?
 

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ask almost anyone involved in cricket and they'll tell you the speed guns in south africa are slower. they never seem to make sense.

last year dale steyn was harldy hitting 140 bowling to india - some of the best bowling (and batting against him) i've seen on a test cricket field. tehre was no was he was bowling slower than we were against england... and he was swinging it like there was no tomorrow.
May be true, but there is no way Sharma has been bowling 155 or whatever ridiculous speeds its measured. I think Yadav got clocked at over 150kph too which is just rubbish.

Brett Lee and Akhtar were both clocked at 160kph in the 03 WC but they may have brought along different speed guns for that tournament.
 

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sharma got 155 today?? hard to judge from 200 metre aways in the stands but he didn't look like it to be honest...

either we're too quick, or they're too slow, or a combination.
Nah don't think so today but in Melbourne he certainly hit over the 150 mark.

Btw, being one of the best days you could've possibly gone to, you must've had great fun. :thumbsu:
 

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Could have to do with where the gun is pointed. Is it reading straight from the hand in Australia but after it pitches in South Africa?
our theory on the original guns (and still seems to hold reasonably true today is that they measure the first five metres)...

the guns judged of how fast it took to travel a certain distance dounce the pitch... but that meant balls that were pitched up around the toes were always clocked quicker than bouncers because the ball had less distance to travel.... to think it through you've got to look at the tratejtory (spelling shocking i know!!) of the ball, the release point of the ball and a point about 5 metres down the wicket... the lower the trajectory, the further it travels. only slight, but when you doing measurements in these terms only a slight change changes a lot of things...

it may or may have been wrong, but it seemed to explain why short balls always clocked in slower than full pitched balls... any decent quick bowler knows they always bend their back a little bit more when they go to put when at the batsmens head....

in any case, i'm never a huge carer of the gun. yeah it's got it's place, but ot me, if a bloke is bowling quick and getting good carry and bounce and making a big "THUD" in the wicketkeepers gloves... then you know he's bowling quick.
 
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our theory on the original guns (and still seems to hold reasonably true today is that they measure the first five metres)...

the guns judged of how fast it took to travel a certain distance dounce the pitch... but that meant balls that were pitched up around the toes were always clocked quicker than bouncers because the ball had less distance to travel.... to think it through you've got to look at the tratejtory (spelling shocking i know!!) of the ball, the release point of the ball and a point about 5 metres down the wicket... the lower the trajectory, the further it travels. only slight, but when you doing measurements in these terms only a slight change changes a lot of things...

it may or may have been wrong, but it seemed to explain why short balls always clocked in slower than full pitched balls... any decent quick bowler knows they always bend their back a little bit more when they go to put when at the batsmens head....

in any case, i'm never a huge carer of the gun. yeah it's got it's place, but ot me, if a bloke is bowling quick and getting good carry and bounce and making a big "THUD" in the wicketkeepers gloves... then you know he's bowling quick.
It's also why bowlers like Tait, Lee & Akhtar recorded high speeds because the vector of their bowling was far more horizontal than say an Ambrose or Garner. Ambrose would never have racked up a 155, but his bowling would be just as threatening.

It's what made Flintoff's 150+ in the 2005 ashes series so brilliant - the fact he was coming from a high release and still pounding them down at pace.
 

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pretty excessive. as i said earlier the real test of his character will be if he does that when the opposition have the game all but sown up.

that last ball was an absolute cracker. as good as ball from a spinner i've seen since warnie retired. spun sharply, went a long way and kept low.

sri lanka are playing for a draw now.
 

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South Africa enforce follow on, Sri Lanka still 341 behind. Can't really see how they can even bat time here. Strong parallels with the Aus vs Ind match.
 
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Slo-mo with that pigeon getting owned was monstrous.

Boucher with a worse drop than Haddin's.

TilDil sucks at life, test cricket and test captaincy.
 

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boucher's drop the worst i've seen from a keeper at test level by a long way.

sri lanka could be in for a rocky road soon. this chandimal looks quality but there's not much to come in for jayawardene, samaraweera and sangakkara who are all 34+... dilshan is also pretty old, and not that great to start with anyway...

they will go through a similar phase as india but i think india have a few more options in the batting department with kohli and rohit sharma looking pretty good talents even though we are yet to see it from kohli. Ajinkhe Rahana who has played a handful of ODI and has a first class batting average of 68 from 50 matches would also be somewhere in the mix when the current crop retire...

for sri lanka angelo matthews looks like he is going to have a hell of a lot of pressure placed on him.... he looks pretty good, but it could be one hell of an ask.

EDIT: and have just read that sri lanka's first class season has been indefinately postponed - obviously something to do with the players crisis where they hadn't been paid from february to december and then only got half paid.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/srilanka/content/story/546501.html

****en hell - that could be a disaster. would be an absolute shame. cricket needs their test playing countries in a healthy state.
 
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And people complain about Cricket Australia...

It really shows what a joke the ICC is. The players don't get paid for months due to debts accrued from hosting the World Cup, and their domestic cricket absolutely implodes. The ICC just should not allow that to happen, and if it does happen they should fix it immediately. Instead, they do nothing. Paying the players less than half of what they are owed is a sick joke. "We could help you, so we will do the absolute minimum." What about the domestic players payments?

Have they even released a statement? Genuine question as I haven't seen one.
 

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Have they even released a statement? Genuine question as I haven't seen one.
couldn't tell you. was just going on cricinfo to have a look at which of their batsmen were performing in the first class season to see if any names popped out that i knew or a few new names i didn't know and came across that article.

very very ordinary situation. surpised it hasn't been mentioned during this series... i've watched most balls bowled up to about 1am of most days play and i haven't heard it anyway...

EDIT: when i read about hte player pay dispute last month i read something about the sri lankan cricket board losing a lot of money on bad investments.... that could mean anything... money gone missing, buying shit shares or property (would they even do that?? and if they do, should they?? not really any cricket boards area of expertise i wouldn't have thought), money laundering, or just plain old bad management.... it's a pretty broad explanation.
 
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Pretty sure the government/military have "taken over" some of those new or refurbished World Cup grounds. Don't know what "taken over" really means, I would guess paying the day to day upkeep.

Chandimal is a goer, makes scoring look really easy. Fair enough he had a bit of a slog today, but he likes hitting out on the rare occasion he gets bogged down. Needs to quit that and he should be a 50+ player. Majorly impressive to do what he is doing in South Africa. When the other Jayawardene is fit, he deserves to come back in but Chandimal should play as a specialist bat.

Kallis' three hats were epic.
 

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I'm not a huge Dilshan fan at the best of times, but his decision to send South Africa in first, followed by his two poor dismissals really have me wondering about why he's captain.

Also, who's the next in line to keep for South Africa? Bouch has had a pretty poor series with the gloves. I'm assuming AB won't keep either.
 
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I'm not a huge Dilshan fan at the best of times, but his decision to send South Africa in first, followed by his two poor dismissals really have me wondering about why he's captain.

Also, who's the next in line to keep for South Africa? Bouch has had a pretty poor series with the gloves. I'm assuming AB won't keep either.
I'm the same. I was just pleased he'd got his head together enough to become a decent test batsman, instead of a guy that made thrilling 30's off 20 balls every innings, no matter what the circumstance.

But whoever though he was/is captaincy material is either on the take, an idiot, or both. The decision making you have referred to is a prime example.

The thing that scares me is that the next alternative, Angelo Mathews, is almost as bad in the temperament department as Dilshan.
 

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Slo-mo with that pigeon getting owned was monstrous.

Boucher with a worse drop than Haddin's.

TilDil sucks at life, test cricket and test captaincy.
Made me chortle :D

I don't think anyone really wants to captain them; too much politics and pressure. You would think that this guy could learn on the job becasue he has some good leaders there to turn to.
 
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I feel like the end is nigh for Boucher. I've been a fan for along time but his drop in this test, plus his drop on Sangakarra in Durban (which might have changed the course of the game), are really inexcusable. Plus he generally makes shit all runs with the bat.
 
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