Opinion Speculation over - Eade Coach

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The 7 news "report" (1min 40sec):https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/videos/watch/25182780/bomber-opens-up-on-future/
Bomber won't push for the coaching job at Essendon while James Hird clings on to the position. Bomber told 7 News he hasn't spoken to Hird about their situation as the mood around the club has been too explosive. "Nothing's changed, nothing's changed". Bomber maintains he hasn't spoken with other clubs. Wouldn't like the job while Hird's still got it. Paused for a while trying to find a way to describe the situation at Essendon before stating that it was "explosive"

 

[Wayne Swan]

The 7 news "report" (1min 40sec):https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/videos/watch/25182780/bomber-opens-up-on-future/
Bomber won't push for the coaching job at Essendon while James Hird clings on to the position......... Paused for a while trying to find a way to describe the situation at Essendon before stating that it was "explosive"

Would that be explosive in the way a meth amphetimine lab is potentially explosive?

 

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Would that be explosive in the way a meth amphetimine lab is potentially explosive?

Yes, but the aftermath looks better than Paul Little smiling (wait, does Paul little actually smile?)

 

[Wayne Swan]

Yes, but the aftermath looks better than Paul Little smiling (wait, does Paul little actually smile?)

Saw him interviewed last night and I'm sure he has aged 20 years in the last 12 months. In all honesty, has probably shortened his lifespan by ten years being involved in that Essendon shite. Be best for everyone if they just accepted their medicine (drugs) and moved forward!

 

[nutstar]

Maybe, but he's only been in the AFL system for a year. At North Melbourne.

Essendon wasn't it? However he was a very good sanfl coach, a great football brain. Taking Norwood to 2 premierships whom have now won 1 more since

 

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Essendon wasn't it? However he was a very good sanfl coach, a great football brain. Taking Norwood to 2 premierships whom have now won 1 more since

I'm certain that you're correct nutstar

 

[Number17]

I agree with you, just quietly I think Stewie Dew could be amazing and a superb fit for us, could be a real left field find for this job

I wouldn't call him left field, other than he has been barely mentioned here. He seems to regularly get talked up by AFL media pundits as a great prospect for a future senior coach. Agree he would be a good fit.

 

[FavoriteSun]

Bolton apparently interviewing for the Crows job today.

 

[Number17]

Bolton apparently interviewing for the Crows job today.

tigernova in v-fib. Someone get a crash cart.

 

[stuyd1]

Yes thats puts a real spin on the issue for Essendon, makes it hard for them. The thing I cannot figure out is how is Hird affording to appeal when he has a real chance of not only paying his legal fees but also the other sides costs if he loses, I cant imagine a private person could afford to roll the dice like that

Hird is worth plenty of bucks. Comes from a wealthy family, has made plenty in his playing days and coaching days, has made plenty in his own business be it a advertising agency and has apparently invested funds very wisely.

 

[volkerball]

Hey guys, Bomber didn't want his best player to leave the team he was coaching. This means he can't work with said best player ever again.

 

[stuyd1]

If EFC wanted Hird to piss off then they would of done it already. They don't want him to piss off at all but are under pressure from the AFL dictatorship to make him go away. I still would not be surprised to see him remain. Tim Watson even said on Sunrise this morning apparently, that the players want Hird as coach. As I said yesterday, non-Essendon people do not understand how much the guy is revered at Essendon.

Very true, Hird is the god at Essendon in the eyes of its members, and the board are fully aware of this and the ramifications that may occur if they sack him...... Hird knows this as well and is using it to his advantage.

 

[volkerball]

Seriously, would you expect a man who gets paid to make his team win to just be like "Sure Gaz, the Suns provide a great opportunity. You just do what is best for you." It's his job to be like "Sign that goddamn contract right. now."

 

[Experimental]

I sat out of this thread while Tigernova was on his Bolton rant in case SUNS banned me lol, anyway, I'm playing catch-up here.

When push comes to shove tigernova, Bomber would get GAJ's vote. He has publicly stated since the middle of 2011 that he had no issues with Bomber the coach.The only problem GAJ had with Bomber was Thompson pressuring him to make a decision early when GAJ wanted to wait. From then on their breakdown was heavily publicised, and it was around this meeting in April 2010 that GAJ made up his mind to leave. The personality of Bomber he had an issue with until 2013, when GAJ started the "patchup" on his end saying niceties about Bomber. In early 2014 Bomber started to "come around" and started the "official" patchup.

Spot on - 100% right.

According to Tim Watson. Their board may think otherwise though.

Tim Watson is a total flog.

Looks like the media have followed Bomber over to LA. I'm sure his wife loves the media following them on their holiday. You won't get that up on the Gold Coast Bomber haha

Wasn't this one of the reasons Gaz moved up? Allegedly anyway. I imagine it'd be very enticing for Bomber, but then again, he clearly loves his press conferences. With only one reporter in the room who has a vendetta against the Suns, it wouldn't go down very well lol

The 7 news "report" (1min 40sec):https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/videos/watch/25182780/bomber-opens-up-on-future/
Bomber won't push for the coaching job at Essendon while James Hird clings on to the position. Bomber told 7 News he hasn't spoken to Hird about their situation as the mood around the club has been too explosive. "Nothing's changed, nothing's changed". Bomber maintains he hasn't spoken with other clubs. Wouldn't like the job while Hird's still got it. Paused for a while trying to find a way to describe the situation at Essendon before stating that it was "explosive"

Was it just me or did Tim Watson completely struggle to give that report? Can't even control his bias bullshit campaignerish reporting

Bolton apparently interviewing for the Crows job today.

Don't tell tigernova

Seriously, would you expect a man who gets paid to make his team win to just be like "Sure Gaz, the Suns provide a great opportunity. You just do what is best for you." It's his job to be like "Sign that goddamn contract right. now."

I completely disagree. It's not the job of a coach at all.

 

[holybishop]

That's totally out of left field

 

[SUNS]

Cant see your video on Tapatalk HB! Explain?

 

[Experimental]

That's totally out of left field

Good way to piss off the Port supporters lol. Waaaaaaaaaay out of the blue though.

 

[Experimental]

Cant see your video on Tapatalk HB! Explain?

"@Adelaide_FC Senior Coach - Its Phil Walsh's job if he wants it @9NewsAdel"

 

[holybishop]

Cant see your video on Tapatalk HB! Explain?

Not a video, rather a tweet.

Warren Tredrea ✔ @warrentredrea
Follow
. @Adelaide_FC Senior Coach - Its Phil Walsh's job if he wants it @9NewsAdel

 

[holybishop]

The Herald Sun are now running with the story, saying Walsh could be appointed in days

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...isses-short-list/story-fni5f4l8-1227079363120

 

[holybishop]

Also Adelaide's apparent reasoning for not opting going for Bassett seems pretty pissweak

Bassett on Friday was told he would not be asked to make a second presentation after being interviewed in Melbourne on Wednesday.

His coaching reputation — built at SANFL club Norwood, where he won back-to-back premierships in 2012-13 — for a strong defensive game may have worked against Bassett while Adelaide is seeking a coach promising entertaining football to appease the Crows’ 19th Man supporter base.

Who care's about winning games, we dont want to upset the "19th Man" with boring football

 

[Experimental]

Holy shit, check this out:

Essendon CEO Xavier Campbell took peptide Melanotan, according to ASADA interim report

The confidential document states that an Essendon assistant coach gave the peptide to Campbell, who self-administered it.

The extract, seen by the Herald Sun, states: “Xavier Campbell injected himself with Melanotan II that was supplied by (an assistant coach).

“The use was based on a recommendation from (a club official). It is highly unlikely that the Melanotan II was medically prescribed for use by Mr Campbell”.

The only place this 'leak' could have come from is somebody directly involved in the court case. Could this be Hird leaking that an 'assistant coach' gave the drug to the CEO (i.e. Bomber)? Just a thought.

 

[vide0n]

Also Adelaide's apparent reasoning for not opting going for Bassett seems pretty pissweak



Who care's about winning games, we dont want to upset the "19th Man" with boring football

On some level I agree, but if it is going to affect the bottom line (crowd attendances, tv viewership) and there are multiple capable coaches out there that are less likely to bring on the same potential disadvantages you can justify ruling him out

 

[TheSunGod]

Do we really want Bomber after Caro's article below...he's either a genius or a nutcase?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-still-pointing-fingers-20141003-10q4pf.html

Mark Thompson regrets it but remains engrossed in the blame game.

Thompson's unpredictable behaviour as the latest Essendon crisis became feverish must be of concern to both the Bombers and the Gold Coast.

Thompson never wanted to be a senior coach again when he left Geelong, but like so many before him that changed as the competitive beast within took over. Thompson undertook to step in for James Hird for just one season but has declared now that he doesn't want to let go.

The Cats maintain their faith in his coaching ability but not his equilibrium on a day-to-day basis. Certainly not towards the end of his time there when the two parties fell out of love. It is not being harsh to say Thompson failed as Hird's mentor because he was brought back into the Essendon fold at his own urging to help the rookie coach and yet was a senior member of that experimental cowboy environment and could not control it.

Thompson tried but failed to stop the injecting regime which only ended in August 2014 with the emergence of the $60,000 off-site HyperMed invoice. In a revealing interview on Channel Nine shortly after he last year accepted his $30,000 AFL fine, he still threatens not to pay, Thompson made it clear that Essendon and Hird had failed to heed the warnings.

But he believed it was the league's fault for not stepping in earlier and taking control. Finger-pointing has become Essendon's first choice of body language. Even Little could not back away from his Federal Court appeal without stressing he almost certainly would have been successful. And the club will still tell you privately the drugs program was not as bad as has been portrayed.

Thompson has the strong support of the pivotal club legend Tim Watson, with the latter enthusiastic about his long-time teammate's performance in 2014. It is true, as Watson has said, that Thompson is far better suited to the senior coaching job than a supporting role.

Watson's commentary is always telling on this divisive subject and two days ago he said the players would support Thompson in the senior role.

He has relished the job this season but up until recently told friends that the burden upon his personal life was too great to continue. Everyone is entitled to a change of heart but there have to be question marks over the full turbulent Thompson package which thrived at Kardinia Park under the guidance of one of the most respected off-field club teams in the AFL.

Even allowing that Thompson became carried away by the cultish nature of his club and the emotion of the Crichton Medal count, it seems inexplicable that he would tell Hird just hours before the Crichton Medal count that he supported his decision to lodge his appeal and then proceed to chop him off at the knees by applying for his job before the Essendon faithful.

Inexplicable unless Thompson did so in the knowledge that Hird was already gone from the coaching role. There is also a view that Hird believes Thompson was talking about the Gold Coast senior job but during the night and previously this week Thompson has told Essendon bosses his preference would be the Bombers over the Suns. And yet he has told others the opposite.

Thompson's double standards, laid bare during Gary Ablett's final season when it was revealed that he too had been negotiating and in fact plotting with another club, emerged again when he expressed keen interest in the Gold Coast coaching role before the contracted Guy McKenna had been sacked. Weeks earlier Thompson had expressed his distaste over Adelaide's treatment of Brenton Sanderson, the sacked coach he has said he would take with him to Queensland or potentially Tullamarine.

As they say in this game, Thompson is a strange cat. The push for the Suns to act now and appoint Thompson without interviewing both him and other candidates is one fraught with risk. And Gold Coast would have acted by now if it didn't see that. If his ambition lies truly with the Suns job then Thompson should back himself to win the position anyway.
And Hird? His support at his club had already eroded well before Hird chose to continue to claim this story mess is all about a flawed investigation.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ng-fingers-20141003-10q4pf.html#ixzz3F7L625QQ

 

[fabulousfill]

Do we really want Bomber after Caro's article below...he's either a genius or a nutcase?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-still-pointing-fingers-20141003-10q4pf.html

Mark Thompson regrets it but remains engrossed in the blame game.

Thompson's unpredictable behaviour as the latest Essendon crisis became feverish must be of concern to both the Bombers and the Gold Coast.

Thompson never wanted to be a senior coach again when he left Geelong, but like so many before him that changed as the competitive beast within took over. Thompson undertook to step in for James Hird for just one season but has declared now that he doesn't want to let go.

The Cats maintain their faith in his coaching ability but not his equilibrium on a day-to-day basis. Certainly not towards the end of his time there when the two parties fell out of love. It is not being harsh to say Thompson failed as Hird's mentor because he was brought back into the Essendon fold at his own urging to help the rookie coach and yet was a senior member of that experimental cowboy environment and could not control it.

Thompson tried but failed to stop the injecting regime which only ended in August 2014 with the emergence of the $60,000 off-site HyperMed invoice. In a revealing interview on Channel Nine shortly after he last year accepted his $30,000 AFL fine, he still threatens not to pay, Thompson made it clear that Essendon and Hird had failed to heed the warnings.

But he believed it was the league's fault for not stepping in earlier and taking control. Finger-pointing has become Essendon's first choice of body language. Even Little could not back away from his Federal Court appeal without stressing he almost certainly would have been successful. And the club will still tell you privately the drugs program was not as bad as has been portrayed.

Thompson has the strong support of the pivotal club legend Tim Watson, with the latter enthusiastic about his long-time teammate's performance in 2014. It is true, as Watson has said, that Thompson is far better suited to the senior coaching job than a supporting role.

Watson's commentary is always telling on this divisive subject and two days ago he said the players would support Thompson in the senior role.

He has relished the job this season but up until recently told friends that the burden upon his personal life was too great to continue. Everyone is entitled to a change of heart but there have to be question marks over the full turbulent Thompson package which thrived at Kardinia Park under the guidance of one of the most respected off-field club teams in the AFL.

Even allowing that Thompson became carried away by the cultish nature of his club and the emotion of the Crichton Medal count, it seems inexplicable that he would tell Hird just hours before the Crichton Medal count that he supported his decision to lodge his appeal and then proceed to chop him off at the knees by applying for his job before the Essendon faithful.

Inexplicable unless Thompson did so in the knowledge that Hird was already gone from the coaching role. There is also a view that Hird believes Thompson was talking about the Gold Coast senior job but during the night and previously this week Thompson has told Essendon bosses his preference would be the Bombers over the Suns. And yet he has told others the opposite.

Thompson's double standards, laid bare during Gary Ablett's final season when it was revealed that he too had been negotiating and in fact plotting with another club, emerged again when he expressed keen interest in the Gold Coast coaching role before the contracted Guy McKenna had been sacked. Weeks earlier Thompson had expressed his distaste over Adelaide's treatment of Brenton Sanderson, the sacked coach he has said he would take with him to Queensland or potentially Tullamarine.

As they say in this game, Thompson is a strange cat. The push for the Suns to act now and appoint Thompson without interviewing both him and other candidates is one fraught with risk. And Gold Coast would have acted by now if it didn't see that. If his ambition lies truly with the Suns job then Thompson should back himself to win the position anyway.
And Hird? His support at his club had already eroded well before Hird chose to continue to claim this story mess is all about a flawed investigation.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ng-fingers-20141003-10q4pf.html#ixzz3F7L625QQ

Caro is the female Damian Barrett, a #flog. Take everything she says with a grain of salt. She has been saying, since the whole ASADA thing blew up, every 2nd week that James Hird is/has/will be/should be sacked. I listen to Rohan Connelly and Robbo on Esssendon matters, and they seem to be 90% correct.