Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2

[Scorpus]

Trade Period Summary

• Adelaide trade in Finnbar Maley (link)
• Callum Ah Chee has NOT been traded in, and will come to Adelaide via the PSD

 

[SLOWNE]

Buckley has joined Geelong as an assistant coach

Great idea to blow out the cobwebs before Tas and I bet he will be taking a lot of notes about various Geelong practices and other IP.

 

[Golumless]

If I was West Coast Shuestar13 then I would be on the phone to McDonalds manager to see if we could work out a deal to get him back to Perth. Getting Curnow is clear evidence of where Sydney see him in the medium term so if you could get him back especially with a change of scene and familiarity, it might be a good long term get for them in a real position of need.

I wouldn't be in a huge rush to leave if I was McDonald. Sydney have sweet **** all in regards to goalscoring power, and having Curnow would certainly take the pressure off to become the main man. All in all, it seems like a good potential partnership. As much as it risks Logan capping out as a Hipwood type player, but that's no different to not having Curnow.

Nah, this improves Carlton. Their forward line was desperate for quality medium/smalls and Mackay/Curnow seem to function best solo. Florent basically takes the role of Hollands. Two first round picks on top of that? Far out.

The only way ripping out a reliable 55-70 goal forward improves Carlton is if said forward is about to fall off a cliff. As much as both KPF's likely perform better as solo as the bottleneck for goalkicking is incoming supply, Carlton are better off with both of them. It's worth remembering that between 2022-2024, Carlton got 100+ goals out of this partnership.

If having Florent and Hayward were as valuable offensive pieces as you are saying they'll be for Carlton; they wouldn't be taken to market to get Curnow. It's not like Sydney are flushed with goalscoring power.

 

[bigman]

“Bailey is a loyal bloke”

That’s why he’s visiting Victorian clubs without the knowledge of the Suns or even his manager.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Why do they need Curnow when they have Joel "9 goals" Amartey?

 

[Scorpus]

If I’m Carlton, I’m asking for McLean or perhaps McDonald ahead of Florent.

Blues tall stocks are horribly depleted without De Koning and Curnow.

They're bringing in Reidy and Khamis. Not exactly the same calibre as the departures though

 

[daniel_4tw]

Are Carlton doing a sneaky rebuild without telling anyone?

Sneaky?

It started last year when they prioritized all their assets for Jagga Smith > Houston. Then letting TDK walk for a nice compo and Curnow has been known to be leaving for a couple of months now with Carlton being pretty laissez-faire about the entire thing.

With Cripps 31 next year they don’t really have a choice.

Should be going harder if anything else but suspect they’ll also lose Sam Walsh next year.

 

[plugger59]

How possibly does Cochrane qualify?

The support offered First Nations footballers is to help address some of the challenges they might face across their upbringing

A year and a half ago, Cochrane didn't even believe he was indigenous. He hasn't had the same challenges others have faced, and shouldn't be able to leap on the benefits last minute.

I was hesitant about saying this but seeing you have broken the ice.... I have this from a family member in the last week or so.... 'It is a load of sh!t - it is simply not true' (his claimed heritage) and the person who told me is not happy about the situation.

 

[Scorpus]

Sneaky?

It started last year when they prioritized all their assets for Jagga Smith > Houston. Then letting TDK walk for a nice compo and Curnow has been known to be leaving for a couple of months now with Carlton being pretty laissez-faire about the entire thing.

With Cripps 31 next year they don’t really have a choice.

Should be going harder if anything else but suspect they’ll also lose Sam Walsh next year.

I agree I just don't think I they've communicated this to members. The members think they are contending and that's why they want astronomical overs for Curnow

I also think they were able to con members into accepting the Voss extension as a "we're sticking by this guy to get back to finals" move when actually I reckon they are using him as a shield for a couple of years of rebuild and didn't see the point bringing in a new coach just to bottom out

 

[bigman]

Sneaky?

It started last year when they prioritized all their assets for Jagga Smith > Houston. Then letting TDK walk for a nice compo and Curnow has been known to be leaving for a couple of months now with Carlton being pretty laissez-faire about the entire thing.

With Cripps 31 next year they don’t really have a choice.

Should be going harder if anything else but suspect they’ll also lose Sam Walsh next year.

Strange then that they’re adding three 27 year olds to their list.

Unless they think they’re good to go in two/three years, by which time Cripps is well over the hill and McKay/weitering not too far behind. Seems to be misaligned.

If I was them I would rebuild hard. Yes Tassie is coming but they get Dean this year, Walker next year and Jagga last year. That’s a mighty haul to kick start a build. And get 20-23 year olds from other clubs to build around them.

 

[Crow till I die]

“Bailey is a loyal bloke”

That’s why he’s visiting Victorian clubs without the knowledge of the Suns or even his manager.

Nothing about him meeting our SA club???

 

[bigman]

Nothing about him meeting our SA club???

Humphrey.

His manager was just on trade radio.

Safe to say Bailey has been sneaky.

 

[feenix67]

Are Carlton doing a sneaky rebuild without telling anyone?

There's such a gap between the top 10 and bottom 8 - if you're in that bottom 8 you need to do something drastic to get back in the game. Saints are doing it, maybe Carlton have read the tea leaves too.

 

[Scorpus]

Strange then that they’re adding three 27 year olds to their list then.

Unless they think they’re good to go in three years, by which time Cripps is well over the hill and McKay/weitering not too far behind. Seems to be misaligned.

If I was them I would rebuild hard. Yes Tassie is coming but they get Dean this year, Walker next year and Jagga last year. That’s a mighty haul to kick start a build.

Two of those 27 year olds are effectively salary dumps to get picks over the line. That's why there's been discussion about Carlton having to tempt those players in the Curnow move (eg, more money) when really Carlton are the selling party

Ainsworth is the type of role player you bring in during a rebuild so you aren't extra terrible

 

[fuic08]

Nothing about him meeting our SA club???

Humpa i assume here

 

[Golumless]

There's such a gap between the top 10 and bottom 8 - if you're in that bottom 8 you need to do something drastic to get back in the game. Saints are doing it, maybe Carlton have read the tea leaves too.

Eh, I wouldn't be in a rush to treat 2025 as anything more than an outlier year in regards to that gap. Heck, a Port Adelaide who aren't actively shooting themselves in the foot probably causes 2026 to be a much more normal year.

 

[Crow till I die]

Humphrey.

His manager was just on trade radio.

Safe to say Bailey has been sneaky.

Apologies, wrong player I was assuming

 

[feenix67]

Eh, I wouldn't be in a rush to treat 2025 as anything more than an outlier year in regards to that gap.

I disagree strongly with this. Who below Sydney do you see replacing anyone above them in the next two years (pre trade period)?

 

[bigman]

Two of those 27 year olds are effectively salary dumps to get picks over the line. That's why there's been discussion about Carlton having to tempt those players in the Curnow move (eg, more money) when really Carlton are the selling party

Ainsworth is the type of role player you bring in during a rebuild so you aren't extra terrible

Extra terrible nets you better draft picks.

TDK, Silvagni and Curnow are gone. McKay might have played his best years and now takes the best defender. Cripps is almost cooked. Newman close to retirement. Saad not far off either. Acres seems to be on the slide. They don’t want McGovern anymore. Haynes is almost done.

I think they’ve missed their chance with the group they built from 2015 on. They’re getting lucky with gun father sons coming through the draft, which will help alleviate the impact of Tasmania. Might as well go hard now.

 

[dogs105]

Is it happening?

 

[fuic08]

Is it happening?

It's coming. Red horse wouldn't let us down.

 

[fossilllCrow]

It's coming. Red horse wouldn't let us down.
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I need times Red horse!! We are impatient

 

[Betts are off]

I disagree strongly with this. Who below Sydney do you see replacing anyone above them in the next two years (pre trade period)?

I see Richmond as the first team to pull themselves out of the doldrums. But not next year, and probably not the year after.

Bad news for Carlton, Essendon and Melbourne fans, their time in the doldrums hasn't even started yet. They better get used to Sunday 330pm games, because the seasons of 8+ primetime games are over

 

[Golumless]

I disagree strongly with this. Who below Sydney do you see replacing anyone above them in the next two years (pre trade period)?

The biggest standout is Port Adelaide. Next year they're not in a situation where they're actively shooting themselves in a foot to give Hinkley a farewell year. Equally, they have a star midfielder to build around in Butters. They're not a genuine threat to win the flag, but it's a squad that could give the 5-8 slots a serious shake if focused/freshened up.

Saints are another standout. They kept a star mid in Nasiah, and having a star to build around is half of the battle to jumping to the upper echelons.

Melbourne with a new coach could go either way, and 2025 could easily be a year from hell from Carlton and next year corrects them back into the top eight.

There are always multiple changes to the top eight. The gap this year occurred because every team who threatened to take that next step (Adelaide, Gold Coast, and Fremantle) did in a big way and a part of this is multiple teams who usually make the 7-12 close shot themselves in the foot with some baffling decisions. One of us three could easily regress, plenty of teams aren't far from fixing their issues and of course, the hardened squads that Collingwood/Geelong/Brisbane/GWS have are a year older and there is only so much space until they find the cliff.

 

[Crow till I die]

I need times Red horse!! We are impatient

Tag him in...ok I will do it for you FAITH

 

[dogs105]

Okay, it's afternoon now!! Let's go!!