Spoon 2010

[Extortion Threat]

I think Richmond will be last. Their midfield is pretty good but if Foley, Deledio or Cousins get injured they'll struggle. Defense looks pretty weak to me. Forwardline has some talent with Riewoldt & Nahas. Problem for Richmond is that most of their KPP's are young & unproven.

For the other teams in contention i think Melbourne should improve if they have a better run with injuries. Got some good midfielders and the defense looks fairly solid, Frawley is a good player. Not as sure about their forwardline though.

I'm hardly gonna choose Port and I don't think we'll be last anyway. The Burgoynes did sfa this year, Lade has been on the decline for 2 years and they're the only real losses from our list (oh yeah and Thurstans). Besides Tredrea, Cornes & Brogan our list is very young and should improve so I'll be very surprised if Port are in the bottom four, especially with our decent draw.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Peanut, stop running around these boards telling pathetic and wildly offensive lies about me.

I didn't even know you existed until you started chasing me around these boards 2 months ago with these postings.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with me, but enough is enough.

 

[WattsGoodForYou]

Stop telling pathetic lies about me.

I didn't even know you existed until you started chasing me around these boards 2 months ago.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with me, but enough is enough.

I think they just like winding you up. Its the downside of being someone with alot of pride.

But seriously nuttin, why do you even bother chasing him around, you should do something a little more productive than trolling. Perhaps add to the debate.

Tigers for spoon 2010, though they wont be there in 2011. They will be smarter this time around.

 

[nuttinbutapeanut]

Stop telling pathetic lies about me.

I didn't even know you existed until you started chasing me around these boards 2 months ago.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with me, but enough is enough.

dude dont lie, you told me i was your best friend last time i came over to play viva pinyata on ur xbox. we had a blast and u sed to me, "if i wasnt hetero i would go u in a second", at which point i slowly walked away and uve been akward ever since.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Again, stop these vile smear tactics and childish lies about me. These posts of yours say a helluva lot more about you than they do about anyone else.

You've been stalking me around the place with your ridiculous, stupid, and completely irrelevant spam postings on many different threads for 2 months.

Once again, I don't know who you are, or what your real identity is, and I have absolutely no interest in you in any way, shape or form. Enough is enough.

I think they just like winding you up. Its the downside of being someone with a lot of pride.

Yeah, well, when it gets to obsessive pursuit on thread after thread for 2 months, and posts as utterly offensive as his have been, it pretty well meets the definition of a stalker, I think.

The first IQ-draining message he posted at me 2 months ago "lol nerd" was pathetic enough- let alone the scores of similar ones since then

 

[willoblue]

Well think about it logically, if a team had 22 A graders then they'd never lose a game.

Every team has/needs players that do their jobs week-in and week-out, irregardless of whether or not they are A graders or not.

Besides, looking at our list - yeah you're right we don't have any A-graders...although Watson is probably there, there are a few on our list who are on the cusp of becoming A graders, namely Ryder and Winderlich. Then there's a host of kids who have the potential to become A grade in the coming years - Pears, Hurley, Reimers, Zaharakis, Dempsey, Gumbleton

I'd be worried if all these players were on the wrong side of 25 with limited improvement left in them, but as it stands they've got a stack of improvement left and I believe it is this improvement which will see us make a 2nd successive finals performance (notwithstanding injuries to key players).

i suppose what we call A graders is a grey area, & my criteria is a bit less from yours.
btw i also rate Zaharakis. i think he could be another crawford / cousins / palmer type whose run is a huge weapon
but come on i am a footy nobody like most people on this site (i guess) & as i have stated before it is my gut instinct which tells me that. 4get that my gut gave me horse on tuesday which could have started the day before & still lost!
i am a former carlton supporter BF, before Freo, but id respect the bombers & Mr Hird is in my top 5 of all time players seen live.
but i still think essendon will slide.

 

[willoblue]

While we're at it, care to explain why Fremantle will finish 10th or higher?

sure

had a really bad run with injuries to important players in 2009
& the kids who debuted were at least the equal of any debut group in that year.
yes rich was the best, hurley looked great, as did dangerfield & others, but when you look at the steps taken & potential in Hill, Suban, De Boer, Pearce, Ballantyne, Walters, Clarke, Van Berlo, well i better wear shades.

add to the return from injury of Palmer, Crowley, Johnson, & full seasons out of Hayden, Mayne & i believe 2010 is a year full of promise.

but then again i am biased & maybe my glasses are rose tinted, but i am am trying 2 be balanced. (beer in 1 hand, bourbon in the other. winter time it is 2 red wines)

 

[willoblue]

Cox and Glass will be 28 next season, Kerr 26 and LeCras 23, of those I expect Glass and Cox to start sliding . Compare that to your best players in Pavlich, Haselby, Sandilands and McPharlin, who will all be 28 next season. Yet you seem to think only our older players going to drop off?



No fact whatsoever in this part. Glass had a much better season this year and is still in the top 3 fullbacks in the comp.



True, he isn't a leader and definately struggles with a tag. Can only hope our younger mids can start standing up and taking the pressure off him, but wary ATM.



Cox has only broken down once and that was this season because of a major groin problem. However that has been treated and he should be back to his best.
On your second point I agree to an extent, he definately runs off the packs to recieve rather than putting his body on the line, but then that's been his role since 2005 and it's worked- just as long as there's quality around him.



Masten, Ebert, Scott Selwood, Naitanui, McKenzie, Brown, Hurn. If you honestly don't rate any of those players then it's clear that you know sweet f**k all about our list.

could be wrong with Cox's body.
fair point about our 4 "best" in your eyes, with McPharlin & Hasleby, but Pav has been Mr Consistent & Sandi gets better every year. Hase might also still be ok because his game has never been an explosive one, but ok i will grant you that. also our underrated but great rebounding defender Roger Hayden is also approaching the veteran stage. you 4got about him, or like most did not rate him high enough.

as for coxy being fed the ball, i just wonder who will get it to him the way he used to get it.

of the players you have listed i will look at them as objectively as possible, masten is an ok player but not much more than that, will never be a tagging target, just an ok AFL player, but never a star.
ebert, again an ok player & capable of some good games but without consistency.
selwood, well we all know where the great selwood plays. adam is a good tagger. i'll give you that & scott may be ok, but geelong definitely have the pride of the litter.
Naitanui will be awesome in a few years, but he needs time. his nickname at times is nic no stat anui. give him time & enjoy his moments of greatness like in that ONE game this year.
brown again is ok but not great & the same with hurn.

like lots of people (probably myself included) you simply have a higher opinion of your own players than the rest of the world.
maybe i am too anti west coast in my sentiments, but nah i can't stand the p@#$%s

 

[willoblue]

dude dont lie, you told me i was your best friend last time i came over to play viva pinyata on ur xbox. we had a blast and u sed to me, "if i wasnt hetero i would go u in a second", at which point i slowly walked away and uve been akward ever since.

lol
maybe he thought nuttinbutapeanut described what you were packing so 2 speak.

 

[nuttinbutapeanut]

If he wasnt so pigheaded by saying things such as "ZOMG OUR DEFENCE IS THE BEST" and "we definantly wont finish the bottom 2 -fact" and just other things about how melbourne is going to be so good with their "great" list which has won them 7 games in 2 years. It blows your mind how he can say stupid things like that. Hes a joke, his team is a joke and to be honest, no one except melbourne supporters cares about melbourne , we all know they suck, they are going no where fast and no one actually cares if anyone beats them, its like punching a ******.... wheres the fun in that?

 

[demon48]

sure

had a really bad run with injuries to important players in 2009
& the kids who debuted were at least the equal of any debut group in that year.
yes rich was the best, hurley looked great, as did dangerfield & others, but when you look at the steps taken & potential in Hill, Suban, De Boer, Pearce, Ballantyne, Walters, Clarke, Van Berlo, well i better wear shades.

add to the return from injury of Palmer, Crowley, Johnson, & full seasons out of Hayden, Mayne & i believe 2010 is a year full of promise.

but then again i am biased & maybe my glasses are rose tinted, but i am am trying 2 be balanced. (beer in 1 hand, bourbon in the other. winter time it is 2 red wines)

Maybe they are, but I think all supporters have them for their team at the start of each season. Good answer, and bonus points for not mentioning my team's 2009 form.
BTW, you forgot to mention Greg Broughton. Was quite impressed with him this year. Tim Ruffles has some great "cult" value and hopefully recovers from that horrific injury.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

No doubt Melspoon will be at it again.

It could take a decade to rid the loosing culture down there, where it has been installed in all the players that losing is ok.

Lets hope they can pull themselves out of it

I have it on good authority that West Coast tanked in round 20 2008 against Melbourne in order to get a priority pick (Luke Shuey).

How's that saying go - pot kettle black

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

If he wasnt so pigheaded by saying things such as "ZOMG OUR DEFENCE IS THE BEST"

Stop trying to make up garbage about me Peanut, you're clearly not fooling anyone, and you're only making yourself look even more utterly stupid with every message you send

Once again, I'd never even seen you on BF, nor was I even aware of your existence, before you started chasing me 2 months ago with these pathetic postings... and by the way, why have you been pursuing me so obsessively for this entire time and continuously spamming threads where anything to do with the Demons comes up, if you don't care about us at all, and don't think I'm worth bothering about?

Even Blind Freddy can see through your rubbish...

 

[EagleMan87]

could be wrong with Cox's body.
fair point about our 4 "best" in your eyes, with McPharlin & Hasleby, but Pav has been Mr Consistent & Sandi gets better every year. Hase might also still be ok because his game has never been an explosive one, but ok i will grant you that. also our underrated but great rebounding defender Roger Hayden is also approaching the veteran stage. you 4got about him, or like most did not rate him high enough.

as for coxy being fed the ball, i just wonder who will get it to him the way he used to get it.

of the players you have listed i will look at them as objectively as possible, masten is an ok player but not much more than that, will never be a tagging target, just an ok AFL player, but never a star.
ebert, again an ok player & capable of some good games but without consistency.
selwood, well we all know where the great selwood plays. adam is a good tagger. i'll give you that & scott may be ok, but geelong definitely have the pride of the litter.
Naitanui will be awesome in a few years, but he needs time. his nickname at times is nic no stat anui. give him time & enjoy his moments of greatness like in that ONE game this year.
brown again is ok but not great & the same with hurn.

like lots of people (probably myself included) you simply have a higher opinion of your own players than the rest of the world.
maybe i am too anti west coast in my sentiments, but nah i can't stand the p@#$%s

Sorry, but you're clearly letting your hatred for West Coast cloud your judgement.

Hell, if you honestly think Freo will finish higher than West Coast next year start a poll about it; see what neutral supporters think.

90% would have West Coast above Freo.

 

[demon48]

I have it on good authority that West Coast tanked in round 20 2008 against Melbourne in order to get a priority pick (Luke Shuey).

How's that saying go - pot kettle black

Don't forget the year they tanked to get Chris Judd.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

Don't forget the year they tanked to get Chris Judd.

Yeah I love it how West Coast supporters took the moral high ground against Melbourne this year, and yet their tanking in 2001 and 2008 was painfully obvious.

As for the spoon, I'm going to go leftfield and select Essendon. Think they may take 1 giant step back, but improve in 2011.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Sorry, but you're clearly letting your hatred for West Coast cloud your judgement.

Hell, if you honestly think Freo will finish higher than West Coast next year start a poll about it; see what neutral supporters think.

90% would have West Coast above Freo.

Definitely not much doubt about that mate... I'd be stunned if WCE didn't finish above Freo in 2010.

But I wouldn't be so sure about the 90% - never underestimate the power of blind, blinkered and bloodyminded stupidity.

Look at all the ignorant folk who've been fooling themselves into thinking we'll somehow be bottom next year, for example...

 

[demon48]

Definitely not much doubt about that mate... I'd be stunned if WCE didn't finish above Freo in 2010.

But I wouldn't be so sure about the 90% - never underestimate the power of blind, blinkered and bloodyminded stupidity.

Look at all the ignorant folk who've been fooling themselves into thinking we'll somehow be bottom next year, for example...

Great to see another ex-Royboy-turned-Demon on here.

 

[demon48]

Yeah I love it how West Coast supporters took the moral high ground against Melbourne this year, and yet their tanking in 2001 and 2008 was painfully obvious.

As for the spoon, I'm going to go leftfield and select Essendon. Think they may take 1 giant step back, but improve in 2011.

Collingwood supporters are good at that too.

 

[willoblue]

Sorry, but you're clearly letting your hatred for West Coast cloud your judgement.

Hell, if you honestly think Freo will finish higher than West Coast next year start a poll about it; see what neutral supporters think.

90% would have West Coast above Freo.

we'll see
not meaning to discredit our esteemed fellow posters, but the future is not clear in anybody's eyes.
& as for 90%, well i'd expect a greater proportion of intelligent people than 10%

 

[EagleMan87]

I have it on good authority that West Coast tanked in round 20 2008 against Melbourne in order to get a priority pick (Luke Shuey).

How's that saying go - pot kettle black

Don't forget the year they tanked to get Chris Judd.

Yeah I love it how West Coast supporters took the moral high ground against Melbourne this year, and yet their tanking in 2001 and 2008 was painfully obvious.

As for the spoon, I'm going to go leftfield and select Essendon. Think they may take 1 giant step back, but improve in 2011.

I agree we tanked against you last year, but in 2000/2001 we were genuinely shit.

Also, outside of Bay 13 not many West Coast supporters bring tanking up that I'm aware of. wambat and Braun_2_B_Wild aren't real West Coast supporters, they're more along the lines of professional trolls.

we'll see
not meaning to discredit our esteemed fellow posters, but the future is not clear in anybody's eyes.
& as for 90%, well i'd expect a greater proportion of intelligent people than 10%

Make a poll about it and see, it'll no doubt be more objective than our arguments.

 

[demon48]

we'll see
not meaning to discredit our esteemed fellow posters, but the future is not clear in anybody's eyes.
& as for 90%, well i'd expect a greater proportion of intelligent people than 10%

I agree with that. Nobody would have predicted Hawthorn missing the finals this year.

 

[tesseract]

I have it on good authority that West Coast tanked in round 20 2008 against Melbourne in order to get a priority pick (Luke Shuey).

How's that saying go - pot kettle black

Good authority! Who's that authority?

With Melspoon being such undeniable tankers and cheats, they now seem to suspect that every team has the same kind of ethics as they do.

When it comes to tanking, Melspoon, figuratively, have been caught with the smoking gun, yet still proceed to claim innocence, while pointing the finger at someone else to somewhat cover over their own shame.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Great to see another ex-Royboy-turned-Demon on here.

Hey, good on you there 48... yeah, I've been a Roys supporter for a couple of decades, the Demons are my AFL club.

Hope you're still a Fitzroy FC member as well by the way - if not, you seriously ought to sign up again mate, things have been going very well since we've been back on the field again...

www.fitzroyfc.com.au

 

[tesseract]

I usually save it for the Bay, but the the allegations made against WC are not on the bay, they're here, hence my reply.