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The difference being that the #1 pick gives you a shot at both of those picks and your fate is in your own hands - something that the #4 pick doesn't.

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As previously stated pick 1 is no guarantee. We may need to trade pick 1 for Kelly, but not necessarily a straight swap

Richmond, St Kilda and Brisbane currently hold 2 picks in the first round of this years draft.

Gold Coast have 4 picks in the second round. Geelong and GWS have 2 picks in the second round.

The possibilities for trading pick 1 in this years draft are incredible. Like no other year in the history of the draft. Get creative Cam

Given everything in play next year regarding academy and father sons, coupled with the suggested strength of next years draft. Add to that all the trade / FA speculation this year, I have never been more excited heading towards the off season. All be it an earlier exit this year from the competition than I have been accustomed to.

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Maybe Josh Kelly isn't going to north? The moral victory of not finishing last will cost two top five picks if he is Roo bound.
Will he?

Are you suggesting that the difference between pick 1 and pick 4 is the need to add another pick 4?

How do you get there?

Show the working out when you write out your equation.
 
Will he?

Are you suggesting that the difference between pick 1 and pick 4 is the need to add another pick 4?

How do you get there?

Show the working out when you write out your equation.
I'll show you:

GWS say we want two first round picks for Kelly. You have pick #4 and your first next year. That's your trade.

GWS say we want two first round picks for Kelly. You have pick #1 and laugh at the suggestion because you can take him in the draft at that pick. You offer your second round pick. They knock it back. You take him in the national draft at pick #1. You still have next year's pick.

Thats the value of having pick #1.

No mention of the preseason draft. If you are going to lose your pick this year for him, then taking him in the draft is no different to a trade. Trading anything along with pick #1 would be so stupid when the cost for getting him to North is capped at pick #1 in the draft. That's what gets him.

If you can get a deal with 2nd round picks and keep pick #1 then that's better.

Kelly won't get to pick #4 in the national draft.
 

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There has been some responses in this post I think (hard to keep track) referring to how the number 1 pick isn't always the best player which may be true but should we win and have pick 4 it's not any better.

2001 - Graham Polak (after Hodge, Ball, Judd) Rubbish
2002 - Tim Wlash (Goddard Wells Brennan) Rubbish
2003 - Ray Farren (Cooney, Walker, Sylvia) Not better then Cooney
2004 - Tambling (Deledio, Roughhead, Griffen) Haha
2005 - Josh Kennedy (Murphy, Thomas, Ellis) Has become a gun, so is Murphy.
2006 - Luenberger (Gibbs, Gumbleton, Hanson) the worst of a pretty ordinary lot except Gibbs
2007 - Cale Morton ( Kruezer, Cotchin, Masten) Who?
2008 - Hartlett (Watts, Naitanui, S Hill) Number 1 was clearly Nic Nat but Melbourne were worried
2009 - Morobito (Scully, Trengove, Martin) Injuries didn't help but no good
2010 - Gaff (Swallow, Bennell, Day) Gaff is better
2011 - Hoskin-Elliot (Patton, Coniglio, Tyson) top 3 better
2012 - Toumpas (Whitfield, O'Rourke, Plowman) Classic Melbourne
2013 - Bontempelli (Boyd, Kelly, Billings) Bont is a gun, Kelly is better. Didn't really matter to GWS so Kelly may have been 1 anyway
2014 - Jarrod Pickett (McCartin, Petracca, Brayshaw) McCartin hasn't shown anything yet, either has Pickett
2015 - Parish was the real 4th pick taking away the academy picks (Weitering, Schache, Oliver) too early to tell, good player is Parish
2016 - Ainsworth (McGrath, Taranto, McCuggage) Essendon take McGrath again if they had the chance.

Gaff is the only clear player and maybe Kennedy who these teams would pick at 1 if they had the chance, the key word is chance. We may not get the best but we have a far better chance.
Bump. Welcome to North the next Graham Polak
 
LOL 30 seconds after the game and all talk on the radio is about who gets what pick.

Just shows we are better than the 18th placed team and Bris are smarter than us.

And there's the real comment "They lost but really they won"

No one gives a $%&# North won.

That completes our total waste of season 2017 for mine.

Problem is it hurts us in future years as well. I guess we couldve kept some older players for an extra year and finished 9th, that might have hurt us more than this in the long run. Now lets start planning, what do we need for our next decade of middle of road finishes
 
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