Spot on Mike Sheahan

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Now it's official, Richmond is a rabble
13 April 2004 Herald Sun

WHEN a club sits at the bottom of football's darkest hole, the upside about meeting an opponent in the same bind is the chance to pinch a win.

The downside, though, is that a loss will snuff out the last remaining ray of hope. Lose and all hope is lost.

The stakes are massive for both Geelong and Richmond at Telstra Dome on Saturday night.

Forget Essendon v Carlton, West Coast v Brisbane, the Roos v Sydney; as perverse as it may be, it's Geelong and Richmond that carries the broadest appeal in Round 4.

Richmond and Geelong have one win between them this year and administrations and coaches under fierce and mounting scrutiny.

Geelong has seven wins from its past 25 starts; Richmond eight, but just two from its most recent 17.

Danny Frawley (Richmond) and Mark Thompson (Geelong) both are fifth-year coaches.

While Geelong regained a little honour on Saturday night with a spirited performance against Sydney, Richmond's credibility fell again yesterday when it was towelled up by St Kilda by 45 points.

In the corresponding game last year, Richmond won by 26 points.

It was the occasion when St Kilda coach Grant Thomas famously declared his team superior to the Tigers, which, of course, we all know now to be true.

The only constant about Richmond is its ability to make you ask: is football that difficult?

The Tigers are a rabble. They play a possession game with a group incapable of executing basic skills under pressure, and seem blind to the benefits attached to going forward long and directly.

Then again, perhaps they don't go long and straight because there's no one to aim at. Matthew Richardson was out of the game in the opening minutes with a hamstring problem, and the void was never filled.

When St Kilda skipped away to a 23-point lead in the second quarter, it seemed Richmond revised its pre-match aims to settle for a loss by as few points as possible.

The extra man went back into defence, creating the farce of three and even four St Kilda defenders for each opponent when Richmond managed to go inside the forward 50 from then on.

After kicking 7.2 in the first half, Richmond added just 3.7 in the second. The defensive plan did nothing but create an ugly spectacle, with the Saints restricted to 6.12 after halftime.

Perhaps it was so congested, the Saints couldn't distinguish goal posts from behind posts.

Nathan Brown illustrates Richmond's long-running problem of lack of class. The former Bulldog is one of precious few players with the skills required to win and use the footy against quality opposition.

On exposed form this year, Andrew Krakouer is next best, and he is 21 with 37 games to his name.

Kane Johnson is excused. While you wouldn't back him in Channel 7's old favourite, , his work ethic and courage are faultless.

Richmond has two or three players out of their depth at the level and a couple of decorated players performing significantly below previous standards.

St Kilda's progress, though, should be acknowledged.

The Saints are three from three, and very exciting.

Riewoldt keeps taking hangers, Jones constantly reminds us of the value of accurate disposal, Gehrig looks sharper and keener than he's ever been, Powell hustles and bustles, Hayes and Harvey plough on, and Ball builds his reputation by the week.

Only top-quality players kick goals from 50m with their non-preferred foot in the tense opening minutes of a game on the way to 21 possessions for the match. That's class
 

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Any disgruntled tiger could of wrote the same article as mike dont go giving him any accolades.

He just likes to lay the boot into Richmond every year to keep his article quota up for the year. He is always on a winner when he bags Richmond because we never prove him wrong.

Sometimes with what he writes I think he must read our forums.
 

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Originally posted by Coach Required
Any disgruntled tiger could of wrote the same article as mike dont go giving him any accolades.

He just likes to lay the boot into Richmond every year to keep his article quota up for the year. He is always on a winner when he bags Richmond because we never prove him wrong.

Sometimes with what he writes I think he must read our forums.
Can you disagree with anything he's written? It could have been any journo writing it. We are a laughing stock and deserve to have the boot sunk in. I'm embarrased. :mad:
 

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Originally posted by Coach Required
we are a rabble every year, tell me something I dont know

3 games in 1 win 2 losses


the sky is falling

the sky is falling
It's not only the sky that's falling. So is our win loss ratio and our position on the ladder.
 
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Originally posted by itsintheblood
It's not only the sky that's falling. So is our win loss ratio and our position on the ladder.
hahaha,

Im as ****ed off as you IITB but mike sheahan is a broken record when it comes to Richmond, really no need for him to do an article everyone in the footy world alreadys knows is true.

Perhaps he should talk some more about the saints seeing how everyone is in love with them atm. What we need is a few years right down the ladder so everyone writes us off and leaves us alone, a new coach to mold the list and a few draft concessions for miller to play with and then we may even get the some opportunities as the saints currently have.

I just find it amusing everyone is praising the saints at present when its really the uneven playing field of the competition that rewards loser clubs top draft picks or the opportunity to trade these top picks for decent players, yet while teams like Richmond who have atleast some talent and win a few games a year dont get the same opportunities as these new so called class and skilful teams.

but hey thats my gripe, our club has made some shocking decisions at draft time in the past so perhaps we wouldnt have benefitted from any concessions at all anyway.
 

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Originally posted by Coach Required
hahaha,

Im as ****ed off as you IITB but mike sheahan is a broken record when it comes to Richmond, really no need for him to do an article everyone in the footy world alreadys knows is true.

Perhaps he should talk some more about the saints seeing how everyone is in love with them atm. What we need is a few years right down the ladder so everyone writes us off and leaves us alone, a new coach to mold the list and a few draft concessions for miller to play with and then we may even get the some opportunities as the saints currently have.

I just find it amusing everyone is praising the saints at present when its really the uneven playing field of the competition that rewards loser clubs top draft picks or the opportunity to trade these top picks for decent players, yet while teams like Richmond who have atleast some talent and win a few games a year dont get the same opportunities as these new so called class and skilful teams.

but hey thats my gripe, our club has made some shocking decisions at draft time in the past so perhaps we wouldnt have benefitted from any concessions at all anyway.
And let's not forget how beautifully it fell for the aints with carltons draft penalties. They got picks one AND two remeber?

Finishing ninth a few years in a row has killed us. To think we picked up fiora instead of pavlich also kills me.


****es me off!!!
 

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Mike Sheehan hates us. Caroline Wilson hates us. Patrick Smith hates us...

They've got every reason to make fun of us. WE SUCK.

Its not that we're losing. Its the way we lose that makes us a laughing stock.

Everyone knows it. The supporters say it. The journos know say it. TJ says it. FFS, even the opposition coach cant resist himself and says it. Everyone knows what the problem is except our own F#KKn ADMINISTRATION AND FOOTBALL DEPT!!!

We are not a football team. We are a bunch of frightened kittens that plays defensive footy and its best tall player as a loose man in defence.

Our coach lacks confidence, which makes our team lack confidence.

We've got F#KK ALL CHANCE of holding on to Ottens next year. And I'm very concerned Cogs will go west. Both are out of contract at end of 2004.

SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. NOW!!!
 
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Lets us be a rabble then, but lets not go in half heartedly like everything else we do. LOL

If Ottens wants to go at seasons end then let him go, make sure Adelaide or who ever he goes to have to give us something decent for him, otherwise he may end up at Geelong or the Bulldogs.

Geelong are dieing for a quality tall.

As for Cogs he has stated he doesnt have any interest to return to perth until well after his career, but i say **** campbell off and make cogs captain next year.

North created a successful era by making carey captain at a young age, eagles did it with worsfold, lets do it with cogs.

It's time we did things right and not half right, or in our case half wrong.
 

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Well i agree. We're not going to be playing finals AGAIN this year so let's make it a shocker and start from scratch. Complete flushing of the toilet. From top to bottom and the best young talent in the country by finishing last.
 

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Make Otto captain - this with the exit of spud
should entice him to stay.

Make Brown - Vice. He should be Captain but that would be too insulting to
their fragile little egos.

Make Cogs Deputy - to captain at a later date.
 

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Originally posted by oxx
Make Otto captain - this with the exit of spud
should entice him to stay.

Make Brown - Vice. He should be Captain but that would be to insulting to
their fragile little egos.

Make Cogs Deputy - to captain at a later date.
I don't think ottens has the goods mentally to be captain. A little imature from my angle and yet to really prove he's a match winner. Browny for mine!!! This would embarass the rest of the duds we have on the list.
 

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Originally posted by itsintheblood
I don't think ottens has the goods mentally to be captain. A little imature from my angle and yet to really prove he's a match winner. Browny for mine!!! This would embarass the rest of the duds we have on the list.
i know what u mean with ottens.
I was just trying to get him to stay - lol
-otherwise Brown
 

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We cant lose Ottens. We havent had a decent ruckman since Mark Lee. Benny did a great job there for us but he was there to stop the Jeff Whites and Primuses from getting easy hittouts, rather than provide an offensive ruck option for us.

If we lose Ottens, we will be set back another 5 years.

Dont think that the supporters are the only ones pi$$ed off with the defensive tactics against the Saints. Some of the players are too. Ottens is seriously pi$$ed he was sent down back in the last qtr. He's not going to be sticking around to play for a coach that doesnt know how to or want to win games.

The only way he's going to be playing footy for Richmond next year is if Sheedy is coaching.

Get of your fat a$$ Casey and sign up the 2005 coach. The sooner you make an announcement, the better. This year is already over. Frawley can talk about a more attacking game plan in 2004, but Monday's game proves that he coaches the way he played. NEGATIVE!!!
 

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it is what i have called constatnly the year of pain. no one wa listening except diggler and 1980 now you are all turning.
we ar enot up to it. face reality. but waht can we do casey has said fralwey is safe, how mediocre is that how mediocre is casper asking for 600 and playing like my mum. We are a disgrace to the tigers of old.
 

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Originally posted by Coach Required
what r u talking about cairo??

we have had far more skeptics here than just yourself, diggler and 1980

start reading peoples posts and give credit where credit is due

LOL
Yeah Camel boy!
Dont be taking all the credit - LMAO

We've devoted web-sites and been banned from others
just for our cause.
Ask your mate Diggles.
Here's one from last year
http://www.angelfire.com/creep/dannyfrawley/


What do u think,
"Bring on 2005" means.
 

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Originally posted by Weaver
I don't care what this thread about ... but any thread with the title Spot on Mike Sheahan has to be flawed.
Tell me weaver, just because the article is written by mike sheahan it's flawed?? Ok so tell me. What part of his article don't you agree with??? I think he's spot on with it. We are a rabble and there's no point disputing it.
 

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Originally posted by cairo tiger
casper asking for 600 and playing like my mum. We are a disgrace to the tigers of old.
Seeing as you weren't there and rely on 3AREX , Gaspar kept Riewoldt to a goal whilst gehrig kicked 4 on hall - when they were swapped he kept gehrig to a goal whilst riewoldt kicked four.

The tigers of old would be disgraced by the constant bagging of the club by those who claim to support them (read you). Ever heard of backs to the wall and supporting the club - i would have hated to had you next to me in the trench if we were underfire at war.

We are not players so we cannot play for the tigers, we are not coaches so we cannot coach them, we are not employed by them so we cannot change internal workings - but we do support them so all we can do is support them.
 

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Seems people like Cairo who bag gaspar and how much he gets paid forget that he's one of the best and hardest defenders in the game. You also forget, cairo, that the guy has had a knee reconstruction and come back early. Have you ever had your knee reconstructed cairo? I can tell you it's not a pleasant experience and most people would struggle with it. The pain is unbelievable. But you seem to be able to judge pretty quickly and bag our best players who had a bad game.
 

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Originally posted by itsintheblood
Tell me weaver, just because the article is written by mike sheahan it's flawed?? Ok so tell me. What part of his article don't you agree with??? I think he's spot on with it. We are a rabble and there's no point disputing it.
1. He says that we should go long, and then in the next paragraph says we shouldn't go long because we have no marking targets. Can't have it both ways.

2. He says that we went defensive after the first qtr but fails to put out that although we were in the lead we only had 5 inside 50s in the first quarter. That we created more opportunites AFTER going defensive. 5 inside 50s for 5 goals in a quarter is evidence of a game plan that is NOT working, regardless of what the scoreboard might say.

3. He has decided we are a rabble. We were worse last week. If he had teed off on us last week it would have been fair enough. We played better though and came up against a far better team than us. Our performance against Melbourne would not have seen us beat a country league team, the performance against St Kilda was good enough to beat Melbourne and Geelong.

We are not a rabble. Just one of the 6-8 rubbish teams running around hoping to fluke our way into the 8. That is not news.
 
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