Spring Racing

[Jugada]

Whats the question over Dissident? Thats your winner right there. The Cleaner will run the race perfectly for him.

Distance I presume, needs to run it out on Saturday

 

[rideclutch]

Whats the question over Dissident? Thats your winner right there. The Cleaner will run the race perfectly for him.

As above. No opinion whether he will or won't be strong late, but if he doesn't he'll almost certainly change plan.

The Cleaner will thankfully ensure a truly run race and hence I have no idea why people are mocking his place in the lineup.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Distance I presume, needs to run it out on Saturday

Fair enough, can see why people may think that but i can't see it being a problem.

Handling the Valley and a wet track my only concerns.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

As above. No opinion whether he will or won't be strong late, but if he doesn't he'll almost certainly change plan.

The Cleaner will thankfully ensure a truly run race and hence I have no idea why people are mocking his place in the lineup.

Dont have a problem with The Cleaner being in it either, rules are rules and he used them to qualify, much like the Lexus for the Melbourne Cup. Actually think he will be competitive as well. If a horse has a love affair with the Valley thats a huge positive, there have been plenty of great horses who dont run to their ability there. Can see a top 5 finish.

 

[iluvparis]

Three G1 2nds in her last 6 runs would have her ahead of him imo. She would be a much better chance of winning

Even horses like He's your man, Almalad and Looks Like the Cat/Sweynesse if they run well on the weekend would get in ahead of him

Kidding yourself if half of those horses mentioned deserve a spot or will get into the field ahead of a horse that has won an AUSTRALIAN Group 1 in the last 12 months. He would also get in ahead of Royal Descent who hasn't won for over a year.

You might not think it has any shot but they will get in the field if they want to run.

 

[iluvparis]

Fawkner
Sacred Falls
Dissident (?)
Happy Trails
Adelaide
Foreteller
The Cleaner
Dan Excel (?)
Silent Achiever
Hawkspur
Royal Descent
Crackerjack King (?)
Guest Of Honour (?)
Almalad
Dear Demi (?)
Arabian Gold
LLTC (?)
Sweynesse (?)

Well that's my 14 + 4 (not really in order) with questions about 7 of them, I reckon Side Glance would have to get a crack before Arabian Gold, 1 or maybe all the 3YO's depending on how they go this weekend, Crackerjack King and probably Royal Descent. Dissident and Dan Excel might not run depending on how they go this weekend.

Not that they should run SG here, was well beaten in a weaker year and didn't appear to handle the Valley anyway. Don't think they will go here with HYM, Mackinnon looks more likely.

Nailed it - will get in ahead of ALL the non-G1 winning 3yos as precedent has shown.

 

[iluvparis]

As above. No opinion whether he will or won't be strong late, but if he doesn't he'll almost certainly change plan.

The Cleaner will thankfully ensure a truly run race and hence I have no idea why people are mocking his place in the lineup.

Because I will feel for the class horse in the race that doesn't get a run as he drops like a stone through the field 600m from home.

 

[Jugada]

Kidding yourself if half of those horses mentioned deserve a spot or will get into the field ahead of a horse that has won an AUSTRALIAN Group 1 in the last 12 months. He would also get in ahead of Royal Descent who hasn't won for over a year.

You might not think it has any shot but they will get in the field if they want to run.

HYM won a G1 last week, Almalad is G1 winner and 3yo on the rise and won of LLTC or Sweynesse could be a Guineas or Spring Champion winner after this week. They are going to have a couple 3yos in the race. They offer much more than Side Glance

Royal Descent should get in before him just because she is a better and more consistent horse. It's all up to the discretion of the MVRC anyway, winning a G1 a year ago doesn't just automatically get you a run in the race

 

[iluvparis]

It doesn't matter what they offer (see The Cleaners inclusion for obvious example) - the precedent of the comittee is clear. Unless LLTC or Sweynesse win on Saturday they have no chance of making the field. I also think they will rate an open age Group 1 WFA win above restricted age wins.

On precendent I would think Side Glance would be selected ahead of Royal Descent too (added bonus of being an international runner).

 

[Jugada]

Because I will feel for the class horse in the race that doesn't get a run as he drops like a stone through the field 600m from home.

He is going much better than whoever this supposed 14th best horse who is going to miss out is anyway

 

[Jugada]

It doesn't matter what they offer (see The Cleaners inclusion for obvious example) - the precedent of the comittee is clear. Unless LLTC or Sweynesse win on Saturday they have no chance of making the field. I also think they will rate an open age Group 1 WFA win above restricted age wins.

On precendent I would think Side Glance would be selected ahead of Royal Descent too (added bonus of being an international runner).

The precedent of letting a 3yo maiden into the race?

 

[iluvparis]

As it stands I'd think it would be:

The Cleaner - LOL
Fawkner
Sacred Falls
Happy Trails
Adelaide
Dsiident
Almalad
Foreteller
Silent Achiever
Dan Excel
Side Glance

That still leaves 3 spots for 3yo's. Can't see him not making the field.

 

[iluvparis]

The precedent of letting a 3yo maiden into the race?

Was an emergency - didn't make the final field until Atlantic Jewel came out.

 

[rideclutch]

Because I will feel for the class horse in the race that doesn't get a run as he drops like a stone through the field 600m from home.

I don't see anything missing that wouldn't be making up the numbers. May as well be the horse who won his way in.

 

[Jugada]

As it stands I'd think it would be:

The Cleaner - LOL
Fawkner
Sacred Falls
Happy Trails
Adelaide
Dsiident
Almalad
Foreteller
Silent Achiever
Dan Excel
Side Glance

That still leaves 3 spots for 3yo's. Can't see him not making the field.

Criterion gets in before him

 

[Jugada]

There is every chance Dear Demi could back up after the Caulfield Cup too

 

[iluvparis]

Unless the Stocks Stakes is ballot free Dear Demi obviously gets left out before him

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Fancy the Aidan O'Brien horse Adelaide, been a while since Aidan has come to our shores chasing a G1 race.
Anyone seen it run in the past, perhaps iluvparis or sethlad ?

 

[craigos]

Does anyone have a certain site or tipster they follow? I don't really have time to study form guides or track runners anymore. Currently following one guy and he's not bad (bit of a twat but tips are ok). Never as good as having followed a horse yourself and being able to pick it against the odds though.

 

[sethlad]

Fancy the Aidan O'Brien horse Adelaide, been a while since Aidan has come to our shores chasing a G1 race.
Anyone seen it run in the past, perhaps iluvparis or sethlad ?

He's a decent horse but I have concerns about him getting around MV.
If he does he is in the race for sure

seth

 

[plays tall 1]

Luke Murrell of Australian Bloodstock has done his pre-Caulfield Cup review for ChampionPicks. True to form he doesn't rate much. Question mark on the Japanese. Predictably likes Lucia Valentina and gives Ambivalent a big wrap with the usual caveat that she's a headcase.

 

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[sethlad]

Luke Murrell of Australian Bloodstock has done his pre-Caulfield Cup review for ChampionPicks. True to form he doesn't rate much. Question mark on the Japanese. Predictably likes Lucia Valentina and gives Ambivalent a big wrap with the usual caveat that she's a headcase.

I heard that, bagged Japanese but still rates them higher than thr Euros.
No mention of his horse at all

seth

 

[iluvparis]

He's a decent horse but I have concerns about him getting around MV.
If he does he is in the race for sure

seth

+1

Has performed well in the US where the tracks are generally tighter ithan in the UK. If he runs to his best overseas form I think he is a top 3 chance.

 

[iluvparis]

I heard that, bagged Japanese but still rates them higher than thr Euros.
No mention of his horse at all

seth

Believe he said Dandino had no chance pre-race last year didn't he?

Do no rate