St Kilda to wear white clash jumper for Grand Final

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Top team deserves the home jumper. I love our old traditional strip, but I love whiny St Kilda supporters whinging about non-issues even better:D
I think I'll bookmark this for next season, and see what happens if the AFL make Collingwood wear an away strip. All hell would break loose.
 

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Now bear with me, if you look really closely you'll see one club kept the same guernsey where the other club changed their guernsey, thus creating a clash. Have you figured it out yet Saints fans/bandwagoners? YOU created the clash between the clubs. Suck it up!!!!!

Top team deserves the home jumper. I love our old traditional strip, but I love whiny St Kilda supporters whinging about non-issues even better:D
Except for one thing, you had one jumper, we had two.
The tri panel was away so we never changed jumpers, just their priorities.
Either way you still created the clash and also shat all over your own history.
 

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I don't think anyone has had a problem with the Pies current strip and the Saint's predominant red strip from the past. These were the guernesy's of the two clubs in 2001:





and the guernsey's of 2002:




Now bear with me, if you look really closely you'll see one club kept the same guernsey where the other club changed their guernsey, thus creating a clash. Have you figured it out yet Saints fans/bandwagoners? YOU created the clash between the clubs. Suck it up!!!!!

Top team deserves the home jumper. I love our old traditional strip, but I love whiny St Kilda supporters whinging about non-issues even better:D
Bullshit, there has never been any clash with both our traditional jumpers. This is a figment of the AFL's imagination and pandering to Collingwood as per usual.

What ever jumper we wear I just hope we win, even more so to stick it up all the arrogant, disrespectful Collingwood supporters here.
 

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As many others have said, Collingwood's "clash" strip IS their traditional jumper. I don't understand why more Collingwood supporters aren't pissed off that THEY are not wearing their traditional jumper anymore.

I guess their supporters are just weak.

The fact is, if Collingwood wore their traditional jumper, there wouldn't be a clash.

St Kilda should fight this.

Just because Collingwood have changed their jumper, that shouldn't take away St Kilda's, or any team's, right to wear their traditional jumper.
 

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As many others have said, Collingwood's "clash" strip IS their traditional jumper. I don't understand why more Collingwood supporters aren't pissed off that THEY are not wearing their traditional jumper anymore.

I guess their supporters are just weak.

The fact is, if Collingwood wore their traditional jumper, there wouldn't be a clash.

St Kilda should fight this.

Just because Collingwood have changed their jumper, that shouldn't take away St Kilda's, or any team's, right to wear their traditional jumper.
But what just is St Kildas traditional jumper? They have changed so many times how can they possibly claim 1 is more traditional than any other
 

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But what just is St Kildas traditional jumper? They have changed so many times how can they possibly claim 1 is more traditional than any other
No they haven't.

They've changed their home jumper ONCE since the 1920's. That was in the late 90's when they used that horrible red thing with the cross for a few years.
 

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But what just is St Kildas traditional jumper? They have changed so many times how can they possibly claim 1 is more traditional than any other
We've pretty much always had the same traditional home jumper with the panels, with a few different away/clash strips. Don't play dumb and pretend you don't know what our traditional jumper is, although you are a Collingwood supporter so you may not actually be playing.
 

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St Kilda's clash has the white back but the front is similar, instead the white is wider. But I think Collingwood should wear its clash, way more traditional and St. Kilda the normal.
 

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Its a Grand Final, not a H&A.
Oh so the grand final should be treated differently to a H&A game?

Should quarters go for 25 minutes + time on because its a Grand Final, not a H&A?
Should teams be allowed to play 23 players because its a Grand Final, not a H&A?

The worst possible way for a grand final to be decided would be for a player to handball it straight to the opposition right in front of goal because he thought it was a team mate.
 
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It's a joke. Fancy having to wear a jumper thats been around for 2 years.
Ever watched the 66 GF in B&W and not been able to tell who was who?
One of the teams wearing white shorts eliminates the problem.
The AFL are out of touch. Especially that little squibb Anderson.
30,000 saints members would be happy paying $1 extra on next years membership to cover the fine.
 

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I actually prefer our white back jumper, but its not a big deal.

We wear Black & white stripes and I didn't even notice the change in 2001 until I saw it hanging on the line one day next to my old Spicers jumper.
 

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But 10 years ago when the colours of our jumper there was no talk of "clash strips" from what I remember. Yet somehow Eddie and Collingwood should be responsible because they didn't have the foresight to see that the AFL would eventually kick up a stink about it all years later. They also should have known that we'd eventually meet St Kilda in a grand final.

Great logic there:thumbsu:

Many people have claimed that we don't have a clash strip when currently we claim our old ("traditional") strip as our clash strip. Many people piss and moan that it's not good enough yet just as many people think if we wear this "traditional" strip against St Kilda then there won't be a clash..... Which would be why we currently call our old strip our "clash" strip, because it prevents a clash against St Kilda.

So, what do the masses of BF want us to do? We finished higher on the ladder and shouldn't have to wear our "clash" strip (yes, it used to be our main strip but not anymore).

FWIW I don't know why the colours were inverted. Maybe it was supposed to symbolise the new millenium and new Magpies? I honestly don't care that the colours were inverted. As long as we're wearing black and white stripes I'm happy.
 

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No they haven't.

They've changed their home jumper ONCE since the 1920's. That was in the late 90's when they used that horrible red thing with the cross for a few years.
So they've changed it TWICE. They changed their home strip to the red thing = 1 change. Changing it back to the tribar in 2002 = change 2.

Collingwood have changed their jumper ONCE. Black on white to white on black. This occured in 2001, one year before St Kilda's second change since the 1920's....
 

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So they've changed it TWICE. They changed their home strip to the red thing = 1 change. Changing it back to the tribar in 2002 = change 2.
:rolleyes:

If you want to be a pedantic dill, fine. We'll call it twice. The fact is they've only had ONE different home jumper. The idiot I was replying to seemed to think they change it every year or something.

Collingwood have changed their jumper ONCE. Black on white to white on black. This occured in 2001, one year before St Kilda's second change since the 1920's....
That's all good and well, but if a club changes their jumper and then in doing so creates a clash with another team's traditional jumper, I don't believe the other team should be forced to change their traditional jumper.

You know, it will be a shame if NEITHER team in this year's Grand Final is wearing a traditional jumper.... which is what looks likely to happen. :thumbsdown:

Especially considering that if both teams were to wear their traditional jumpers, there would be no clash.
 

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:rolleyes:

If you want to be a pedantic dill, fine. We'll call it twice. The fact is they've only had ONE different home jumper. The idiot I was replying to seemed to think they change it every year or something.
Oh so we are adding in new rules here, ok then, in the last 9 AFL seasons, Collingwood has changed their home jumper 0 times, St Kilda 1 time, so we win :)

But in history Collingwood has made 1 change, St Kilda 7, so cant see how the team with 7 changes can claim any tradition, oh but I am sure you will use those selective stats again :)

That's all good and well, but if a club changes their jumper and then in doing so creates a clash with another team's traditional jumper, I don't believe the other team should be forced to change their traditional jumper.

You know, it will be a shame if NEITHER team in this year's Grand Final is wearing a traditional jumper.... which is what looks likely to happen. :thumbsdown:

Especially considering that if both teams were to wear their traditional jumpers, there would be no clash.
I am glad we actually seem to agree on the subject, if a team changes their jumper and it creates a clash then they should have to wear the clash strip to avoid it. When Collingwood changed to the black they did not clash with St Kildas home jumper, St Kilda then changed their jumper a couple of years later and created the clash

But obviously in your strange world, the Pies should have been able to predict that St Kilda would change their jumper back at some stage even though people seemed happy with the new jumper that had been worn for a few years by that stage :rolleyes:
 

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:rolleyes:

If you want to be a pedantic dill, fine. We'll call it twice. The fact is they've only had ONE different home jumper. The idiot I was replying to seemed to think they change it every year or something.



That's all good and well, but if a club changes their jumper and then in doing so creates a clash with another team's traditional jumper, I don't believe the other team should be forced to change their traditional jumper.

You know, it will be a shame if NEITHER team in this year's Grand Final is wearing a traditional jumper.... which is what looks likely to happen. :thumbsdown:

Especially considering that if both teams were to wear their traditional jumpers, there would be no clash.
We're in struggle-town, but I'm happy to repeat myself. At the time there was NO CONCEPT OF CLASHES! Collingwood changed their jumper for whatever reason and everyone was fine with it up until the last couple of years.

How are Collingwood supposed to design a jumper under certain parameters that don't exist yet?

There's no point in spruiking the 'traditional' jumper angle. IF, and I stress IF, the concept of clashes was around in the early 00's then jumpers would have had to have been designed so they don't clash with a team's current jumper (e.g. St Kilda's home jumper), not so that they don't clash with an old/historical/'traditional' jumper. Do you follow? Unless you're suggesting Eddie and Collingwood should have been able to see 5+ years into the future then your argument has no merit.

St Kilda were wearing the red jumper for home games at the time. IF, again I stress IF, Collingwood were to change their jumper then this is the jumper it couldn't clash with (which they weren't anyway, because the concept of clashing didn't exist), because St Kilda was wearing it at the time.
 

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Did anyone see Manchester City's away strip they wore last night against Wigan. It was white with a thin black and red seat belt sash across it. loved it and think it would suit St.Kilda as a clash strip very well for future seasons
 
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