St Kilda to wear white clash jumper for Grand Final

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St Kilda were wearing the red jumper for home games at the time. IF, again I stress IF, Collingwood were to change their jumper then this is the jumper it couldn't clash with (which they weren't anyway, because the concept of clashing didn't exist), because St Kilda was wearing it at the time.
Fair point, I missed that. :thumbsu:

But my argument about traditional jumpers still stands. I think they should be protected at all costs.... including Collingwood's. :)

Is St Kilda's traditional jumper more important than Collingwood's black jumper? In my opinion, it is.
 

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a grand final where both teams wont be wearing traditional jumpers


collingwoods current home jumper is NOT their traditional strip, their alternate strip is traditional


the saints should just play in their traditonal jumpers and just cop the fine
 

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One of COL or STK has to wear an alternate strip in this match, but the AFL's reasoning for making STK do it is absolutely weak. It knew COL would make noise if it was asked to do anything, and the AFL didnt want the issue to be a talking point in the lead up to the biggest match of the year.
 

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What a silly thing to say. If say it was Adelaide in the grand final against Collingwood, and Adelaide were the minor premiers, then what would your reasoning be? :rolleyes:
Adelaide would wear their home strip and navy shorts.
Collingwood would wear their home strip and white shorts.

The exact same uniforms as last year's semi final - I don't recall any clashes in that game.

By the way, St Kilda finished higher than Collingwood in 2009, and got to wear their home strip and black shorts in the qualifying final while Collingwood wore the clash strip and white shorts. I don't recall any complaints from Collingwood at the time.
 

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But my argument about traditional jumpers still stands. I think they should be protected at all costs.... including Collingwood's. :)

Is St Kilda's traditional jumper more important than Collingwood's black jumper? In my opinion, it is.
It obviously wasn't that important to them in 1997 yet now in 2010 it is?

St Kilda fans should focus on the game and be thankful their team is in a Grand Final, and that the AFL didn't force them to wear the Pura Milk yellow strip.

Do you think Fremantle or Western Bulldogs fans would be whining this much if their team was in the Grand Final but were wearing the white clash strip?
 

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West Coast wore theirs in the 2005 and 2006 Grand Finals
It was their away strip.

And it has significance to the club because they won their early premierships with it. They played their home finals with it as well.

Club can wear whatever colours and designs it wants...........as long as it has been approved by the AFL prior to the season, and the AFL doesnt deem that there is a clash with the other match-day team.
 

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Unless we ever played a GF against the Bulldogs - obvious clash, so only then shoud the Eagles wear a different guernsey. So hopefully we never play the Doggies in a GF.
Unless West Coast were minor premiers or the higher ranked team and the AFL would rule that WB would have to wear their alternate.

Yeah right. The ***** at AFL house would come up with some BS that the Game is in Melbourne, so WB are home team and get the home strip.

Different rules, depending upon who you are.
 

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Its a Grand Final, not a H&A.
Its for the club, they dont want pictures of the jumpers on there wall of there non traditional jumper.
yeah, cos their captain ****ed up the one and only occasio they did win one by wearing a Collingwood guernsey to accept the cup.

the issue amongst Saints fans shouldnt be that they have to wear the alternate strip. the way they were shafted into doing it by the weak and gutless AFL would be the fact that pissed me off.

a coin-toss shouldve determined which club won the choice. It's a neutral match on a neutral ground - interstate club minor premiers play the GF on the MCG too.

anyway STK fans, Spain wore their seconds for the World Cup Final against the Dutch, and put on the red/orange shirts for the presentation. And it was their first WC win.
 

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Oh well, the responses in this thread, in addition to the responses of the brownlow results, will make a collingwood grand final loss all the more sweet.
 

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Did the jumpers clash in 1966? If not, why is there a problem now.
nope, because COL wore the white with black-stripes guernsey. the contrast makes a difference, particularly from the back. COL got the benefit of the 'minor premiers home rule' with the shorts.





the only way there will be any progress on this rule is when the AFL, clubs and fans look at the match-day uniforms as a whole, rather than just the guernsey.
 

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They do look at as a whole, thats why Geelong often wears white shorts to stop a clash even if the home side

So I see as minor premiers Collingwood wore black shorts in 66 and now yet again they get the same result, so for all the complaining its very consistent, difference is these days the shorts and jumpers come as a package so Black shorts = black jumper, St Kildas white shorts go with their white jumper
 

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My god this thread is full of whingers.

Both clubs home jumpers clash. It is simply an irrefutable fact. Both have a black back with white numbers and are identical from about 2/3rds up, and from the side both are black. If you can't see the clash there, then you don't have a clue about anything, and i'm surprised you can even type a sentence on a keyboard.

Given one club needs to change, it is thoroughly reasonable to give that responsibility to the lower ranked club. If St Kilda don't like the look of their alternate, then it's their own bloody fault given they came up with the jumper. They should have come up with something they weren't going to be ashamed to wear.
 

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My god this thread is full of whingers.

Both clubs home jumpers clash. It is simply an irrefutable fact. Both have a black back with white numbers and are identical from about 2/3rds up, and from the side both are black. If you can't see the clash there, then you don't have a clue about anything, and i'm surprised you can even type a sentence on a keyboard.

Given one club needs to change, it is thoroughly reasonable to give that responsibility to the lower ranked club. If St Kilda don't like the look of their alternate, then it's their own bloody fault given they came up with the jumper. They should have come up with something they weren't going to be ashamed to wear.
Ever played Football?
 

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My god this thread is full of whingers.

Both clubs home jumpers clash. It is simply an irrefutable fact. Both have a black back with white numbers and are identical from about 2/3rds up, and from the side both are black. If you can't see the clash there, then you don't have a clue about anything, and i'm surprised you can even type a sentence on a keyboard.

Given one club needs to change, it is thoroughly reasonable to give that responsibility to the lower ranked club. If St Kilda don't like the look of their alternate, then it's their own bloody fault given they came up with the jumper. They should have come up with something they weren't going to be ashamed to wear.
It's not about being ashamed to wear it, I actually don't mind it as an away/clash strip, it's a lot better than some of our other ones. However for a Grand Final you want to see your team playing in it's traditional home jumper, not an away strip.

I really can't see how there is any problem with our normal home jumpers clashing, they look very different from the front and while the backs might be similar, if one team is wearing white shorts it shouldn't be too hard to tell the teams apart.

If people can't tell the difference between a Collingwood and St Kilda jumper they need to get their eyes checked. It's a f***ing joke that we are being forced to change from our traditional jumper but what do you expect with clowns like Demetriou and Anderson running things. They are the same idiots that sent the umpires out in pink uniforms that matched the Melbourne players pink jumpers, now they are so shitscared of making another mistake with clashes that they overreact by making a decision like this which is completely unneccessary.
 

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As a watcher I couldnt give a ****, but you would want to make it as easy as you can for the players on such an important day to make it out which is your opponent and team mate, games have been lost from mis-use cos of colour clash (even with umpires)

Thats why i would want to see as much red on the saints jumper as you can with the selective jumpers they have got.
 

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I'm supporting the Saints on Saturday but their supporters are clearly wrong here.

Firstly, their current home guernsey wasn't their original strip, so why does it now become so traditional?

Secondly, despite this home guernsey being so "traditional", it was replaced during the 90's and the Saints even wore this new non-traditional guernsey in the 97 Grand Final. If they were willing to do it then, why not now?

Thirdly, Collingwood are the highest seeded team, thus they should rightly have the choice over which strip to wear.

Finally, if you guys are so against playing a Grand Final in your away strip, then don't play. If the Crows had the chance to play in the Grand Final, I wouldn't care what they were wearing, as long as they were in it. Get over it.
 

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No of premierships won in the jumper St. Kilda will wear = 0

No of premierships won in the jumper Collingwood will wear = 0

see, it's all fair. :D
 

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Pay the fine, **** Collingwood.

What's 30k to a football club? Players should all chip in to pay for it. No one wants to see them wearing the clash.
Agreed. I'm hoping North will do this in 25 years time when the afl schedule our next home game against the pies.

Didn't St Kil;da wear an alternate strip in 97? The sheild design ?

IN b4 some **** wit posts a picture of a bombed out minibus and goes ROFL Norf ha ha they can't afford it ROFL ROFL BWAHAHAHAHa
 
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Learn the rules.

The side that finishes higher on the home and away ladder gets the priority re jumpbers if there is a clash. Just like that for all games leading up to the GF the side that finishes higher gets to play at its home ground (capacity permitting for Melb based clubs).

It has nothing to do with the Pies, the AFL make and enforce the rules.
Show me evidence of this rule.

Again, it is a grand final - there are no home teams.
 
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Funny how it's only supporters whinging about this, i am certain the players don't give a rats arse as to what they a wearing on saturday, Traditional or non- traditional they are playing a Grand final and not a back yard kick about. Either jumper isn't going to make the team play any better and it's still the same players still wearing the red, white and black. Go Saints
 
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