Stadium deals - what, how, when - why we need a new one and the SA footy paradigm shift happening

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Out of curiosity, why didn't Port see through the process in the Licencing Court?

Obviously there would have been a delay and you'd likely lose half the season (at least) while the matter was being resolved, but in the scheme of getting Lawyers involved the licencing court is a pretty cheap jurisdiction. Also, I can think of some fairly prominent practitioners who would be happy to assist Port at mates rates (or less), particularly in the circumstances of getting one over the SMA.

This would also have had the benefit of exposing the SMA's position for the entire world to see.

I assume it just wasn't worthwhile given the combination of the delay and unavailability of the Tennis SA complex?
The reason was the logistics. We attempted several configurations of the GDV while Tennis SA was down for renovations, and each one received objections. In an attempt to compromise we moved further and further away from the stadium, even trying pinky flat and elder park, with the SMA objecting the whole way. The only way they would accept the application and remove their objections was if we met insane requirements such as not selling beer at half time, having the whole thing packed up an hour after the game, only being able to set it up a few hours before the event etc.

The legal process isn't cheap at all, especially since the SMA are throwing very expensive lawyers at it and hearings, emails and phone calls can be numerous. We spent significant time trying to make it work, but it became such a drain on resources that we scrapped the whole thing - granting the SMA their wish. Additionally, the club would quite rightfully only engage with their legal team that have represented us across the years - even if someone offered a pro bono service.

The added complexity was that the ACC was more heavily involved with anything that we tried to setup in the parklands, which as we know - is basically a very dense minefield.

There was even an attempt by Port to compromise with a profit sharing agreement, but this was withdrawn.
 
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Slightly related, but have heard with the SMA whenever Port have to set anything up, it's like, we'll open the gates for you 3 hours before game time and we want it gone 1 hour after the match. Yet with the Crows it's "when do you want set up for Saturdays game? Wednesday from 9am? Sure, no problems. Look as long as your Eddie Betts life size cut outs are gone by the close of business Tuesday, it's all good.
 
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Slightly related, but have heard with the SMA whenever Port have to set anything up, it's like, we'll open the gates for you 3 hours before game time and we want it gone 1 hour after the match. Yet with the Crows it's "when do you want set up for Saturdays game? Wednesday from 9am? Sure, no problems. Look as long as your Eddie Betts life size cut outs are gone by the close of business Tuesday, it's all good.
This shit fight wont improve our relationship with them and will make things like you described worse.
 

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Slightly related, but have heard with the SMA whenever Port have to set anything up, it's like, we'll open the gates for you 3 hours before game time and we want it gone 1 hour after the match. Yet with the Crows it's "when do you want set up for Saturdays game? Wednesday from 9am? Sure, no problems. Look as long as your Eddie Betts life size cut outs are gone by the close of business Tuesday, it's all good.
Yeah I used to drive past the oval to get to work and always noticed that after a Port game the banners/flags on the external light posts were down on Monday morning following a Port game but the crows ones were often left up through the week and only taken down on a Thursday/Friday

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Daniel's outrage is like that of a person who has been cornered and found out. Those words he are throwing around are hilarious. The club has all the evidence they need for this, Daniels can throw his words around all he likes - but it's only going to dig them a bigger hole.

Port are one move away from checkmate.
I'd like to think so but we often come so tantalisingly close to exposing stuff like this only to back away and roll over at the last minute

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Lol Daniels faux outrage
He sounded like he was about to cry. I was going to say it was Oscar-worthy, but frankly it was more Razzie-worthy.

He initially called Stephen Mullighan Stephen Millighan. Very Trump-like. And about as truthful.
 

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Yeah I used to drive past the oval to get to work and always noticed that after a Port game the banners/flags on the external light posts were down on Monday morning following a Port game but the crows ones were often left up through the week and only taken down on a Thursday/Friday
So SANFL/Crows. We had to drag those troglodytes to AO kicking and screaming all the way, but now they 'always fought to be there', so they want to brand it as Footy Park Mk. 2. If they thought they could get away with a giant Crow permanently parked there, ala the Swamp, they would. And these clowns in the SANFL, who left AO in the 70's get a seat on the board, whilst we suffer. Only in SA.
 
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Daniel's outrage is like that of a person who has been cornered and found out. Those words he are throwing around are hilarious. The club has all the evidence they need for this, Daniels can throw his words around all he likes - but it's only going to dig them a bigger hole.

Port are one move away from checkmate.
Bang on, He is sounding like Lance Armstrong not long before he was found out.
 

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Yeah I used to drive past the oval to get to work and always noticed that after a Port game the banners/flags on the external light posts were down on Monday morning following a Port game but the crows ones were often left up through the week and only taken down on a Thursday/Friday

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The SMA had big red, yellow and blue lights installed at the top of the Riverbank Stand that flash during their home games and are clearly visible as you approach the ground from the city.
We get to use the blue and white Adelaide Strikers ones.
 

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Doubtless this has been covered somewhere in the last 300 pages, but, do we know to what extent, if any, the SMA's seemingly boundless animus for Port Adelaide is motivated by some commercial concern, as opposed to Port farken SANFL farken? I think it's true that we offer fewer tickets of a certain category than Adelaide, keeping a higher proportion of seats open for GA and 3-gamers - could this be a factor?
 

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Is the SANFL realy a feeder league for the AFL? had no idea Henley high, a number of private schools and the amature league were part of the SANFL.

SANFL realy does little development of players before the AFL draft, but somehow takes the credit.
 

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Doubtless this has been covered somewhere in the last 300 pages, but, do we know to what extent, if any, the SMA's seemingly boundless animus for Port Adelaide is motivated by some commercial concern, as opposed to Port farken SANFL farken? I think it's true that we offer fewer tickets of a certain category than Adelaide, keeping a higher proportion of seats open for GA and 3-gamers - could this be a factor?
No. It's literally just corporate greed, cronyism and grudges held for 40 years.
 

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You know, there won't be one South Australian football fan who gives a shit when Leigh Whicker finally leaves this world. Baffling he lasted in whatever role he was in for so long. He and his cronies decisions in holding back this state with regards to football is so obviously there for all to see. This bloke is no doubt the one that got the SANFL all lawyered up back in the 90s and has taught today's overweight, overpaid SMA cronies in the same manner. IMO South Australians are fckn idiots, this organization is just classic SA

On a sidenote, KT has just basically begun his exit from PAFC
 

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We absolutely cannot let this stand unchallenged. If the public face of the SMA is that blabbering buffoon they wheeled out the other day, we've already won.

On a sidenote, KT has just basically begun his exit from PAFC
The difference this time is that the SANFL nolonger control our licence and can't force a change at the top just because they feel aggrieved.
 

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The difference this time is that the SANFL nolonger control our licence and can't force a change at the top just because they feel aggrieved.
True. But it's the first time KT has gone on the attack, could argue good leadership for our club
 

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On a sidenote, KT has just basically begun his exit from PAFC
Perhaps.

Even with reputable sources here insisting that "We are right and we have the evidence to prove it" experience should have taught many of us that Port and the SANFL (or, really, any backwards, myopic, parochial South Australian institution du jour) is a heady and volatile mix, where little (certainly not facts or the truth) can stand in the way of us having to eat a giant shit sandwich.

Plus, while presidents and board members can hang around like a bad smell, CEOs generally better understand the concept of a limited shelf life. KT has been here since the end of 2011, so, even if picking this fight doesn't (or shouldn't) cost him his job, it may be the last big fight he wants to pick for Port before moving on.
 
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