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I enjoyed them too but critics didn't.
To be fair, critics in 1965 had zero clue what science fiction was. Certainly more adult themed science fiction.
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I enjoyed them too but critics didn't.
Most of them were from the 90s though. I guess my point is pilots generally don't follow the tone the show later adopts as the characters get fleshed out.To be fair, critics in 1965 had zero clue what science fiction was. Certainly more adult themed science fiction.
Spoilers ahead....
Some random thoughts...
- I always thought Klingons would be more honourable than to pretend to bend the knee in subterfuge like that. I always thought of them more in the Ned Stark mould of preferring to stubbornly die than diminish their own honour. I'm not some diehard who's seen every ep of every series though so I may be mistaken.
- I do like that the Klingon arc has it's own storyline going on instead of just being the enemy 'out there' who only appear when they're in conflict with the protagonists. You could cut the sexual tension with a knife between those two when they were aboard the dead Starfleet ship. I'm not sure I'm keen on ever seeing a Klingon sex scene though.
- Speaking of Ned Stark, is this the Star Trek universe's version of GoT or something? I was not expecting a major character to die so early. It was way too early actually, too soon for us to have built up an emotional connection yet. Could have been a powerful moment if left until later in the season when she was well and truly ensconced as a main character.
- Putting aside how silly the premise of using a bug as some omniscient navigator seems, it has thrown up some interesting new themes with the animal cruelty angle. Surely they could invent a less painful way to access the creature's subconscious than whatever that torturous device is?
- So I'm assuming this is either some kind of pre-emptive reboot that isn't part of the canon of later versions of Star Trek, or else the series goes on to explore why that technology is unethical/unviable for use in the long run. Otherwise all the later ships should have been using this technology to materialise wherever they want.
I read that it was explicitly set in the original universe, so surely the tech must fail or be unethical.There is a theory that this is in the Mirror Universe, but I'm not so sure, so I do think the technology must fail/be too dangerous. If the Discovery is going to be the ship we see for presumably 7 seasons (that'd be the aim based on all other ST shows bar SE and TOS) it can't just be flying around jumping to wherever it wants in the Universe.
I read that it was explicitly set in the original universe, so surely the tech must fail or be unethical.
Now I want old Trek redone with swearing.They even swear in this Star Trek!
That's f**king cool.
There is a theory that this is in the Mirror Universe, but I'm not so sure, so I do think the technology must fail/be too dangerous. If the Discovery is going to be the ship we see for presumably 7 seasons (that'd be the aim based on all other ST shows bar SE and TOS) it can't just be flying around jumping to wherever it wants in the Universe.
Mirror universe begins when Cochrane shoots the Vulcan emissary.Cool ending that ep too.
Maybe the origins of the mirror universe link?
I meant a link for the two universes to interact.Mirror universe begins when Cochrane shoots the Vulcan emissary.
I meant a link for the two universes to interact.
They even swear in this Star Trek!
That's f**king cool.
Nah. As an old school Trek fan all it does is emphasise that this show may call itself Star Trek but it really isn't.
I disagree; there's plenty of old school Trek moralising, the nature of life, etc. It's just wrapped in a story arc, much like DS9, which was my favourite Trek.I enjoy the series but this isn't Star Trek.
Nah. As an old school Trek fan all it does is emphasise that this show may call itself Star Trek but it really isn't.
The main plot wasn't the best of the season but the character development was superb. I picked Lorca's motivation the second he suggested the admiral for the mission and will turn his character on its head, imo. I also loved Sarek's reveal to Burnham. I wasn't a fan of shoehorning Sarek into the show, but the reveal had the benefit of making sense in the show and adding layers to the antipathy between Spock and Sarek in TOS. Not an easy thing to do."Hell" was considered swearing when it was used in TOS. Censors initially objected to it.
They swore in several films, Picard swore in French during TNG, etc.
It is well and truly Trek for me, as a long-time fan, and very good Trek at that.
Announced today that it has been extended for a second season. Hope Isaacs stays in it - he is great, and his character got some great development in yesterday's episode.