Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Janus

Dominus Ex Machina
Joined
Sep 9, 2007
Posts
18,041
Likes
45,792
Location
Portland, Oregon
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bulls
The nature of the person using the lightsaber. You know, the official explanation.
The nature of the Jedi attracts them to a certain crystal when creating their saber, and the crystal changes colour based on their resonance with the Force...but once the crystal has been forged, the colour doesn’t change.

It’s not some woo woo aura thing.
 

JackOutback

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Posts
17,268
Likes
21,152
AFL Club
West Coast
"Nerd sitting in a theatre nitpicking". You realise that blue and green are quite easily distinguished?

I quoted Vader who noted Luke had built a new lightsaber. By your logic that means I win, right? :)
I'm not going to weigh in to this debate, other than to say Luke's first lightsaber was Anakin's old one, so he's more likely to spot the difference.
 

SM

Bigfooty Legend
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Posts
83,774
Likes
44,791
Location
North Shore
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Hull City, Adelaide United, EH
The nature of the Jedi attracts them to a certain crystal when creating their saber, and the crystal changes colour based on their resonance with the Force...but once the crystal has been forged, the colour doesn’t change.

It’s not some woo woo aura thing.
Uh, exactly. So Luke's resonance causes him to forge a green light Saber. You're making my argument for me.
 

mike123

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Sep 13, 2013
Posts
26,598
Likes
23,020
AFL Club
Collingwood
No, he’s not a nerd sitting in a movie theatre nitpicking over slight details but actually living the experience.

Luke could have been holding a ******* Ewok and it wouldn’t have mattered.
You realise Kylo gets a better view of the situation then the nerds in the theatre?
 

SM

Bigfooty Legend
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Posts
83,774
Likes
44,791
Location
North Shore
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Hull City, Adelaide United, EH
His resonance at the time, yes. It’s all about intent at the moment of harvesting.
Right, so why earlier did you say it was determined by the crystal not his resonance?

Yes, his resonance might have changed, but the point is that blue and green are fundamentally different colours, and to say "Oh Kylo was just really made he didn't notice Luke was using a different coloured lightsaber" is just really, really dumb.
 

Janus

Dominus Ex Machina
Joined
Sep 9, 2007
Posts
18,041
Likes
45,792
Location
Portland, Oregon
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bulls
Right, so why earlier did you say it was determined by the crystal not his resonance?

Yes, his resonance might have changed, but the point is that blue and green are fundamentally different colours, and to say "Oh Kylo was just really made he didn't notice Luke was using a different coloured lightsaber" is just really, really dumb.
At what point did I say he didn’t notice the colour?

I said he wouldn’t have noticed it was Luke’s OLD saber, because it could have been any blue lightsaber.
 

SM

Bigfooty Legend
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Posts
83,774
Likes
44,791
Location
North Shore
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Hull City, Adelaide United, EH
At what point did I say he didn’t notice the colour?

I said he wouldn’t have noticed it was Luke’s OLD saber, because it could have been any blue lightsaber.
Eh, starting to split hairs here needlessly and in the wrong thread. It's a poorly constructed scene in a poorly constructed movie.
 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #761
new helmet for kylo ren.....described as more of a mix between vader's and kylo's. visor large vent over the mouth, back drapes down, mixture of black and silver on top, and sides with red LED lights, and a tube going from the back to the side.

 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #762
kylo enters the world between worlds.....as seen in Rebels with Ezra.
scene where kylo sees padme's funeral, and specifically zooms in on a necklace padme is holding in her dead hands, and then kylo looks down at his own necklace which is either the same one, or similar. he walks down the hall further and sees the scene where anakin chokes padme.

 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #763
battu the planet, jungle world, rey finn and poe, along with lando and chewy, are engaging in a battle scene together on this world against unknown race. the set design suggests a huge walled city with many turrets along it. (personally, sounds like an endor thing again).

this is one of the plot points of IX, where essentially the resistance is scouring old rebel bases/worlds looking for support, whilst also the first order are doing the same. this battu world is likely to be included in the disney SW theme park.

 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #764
scene leaked of kylo walking along a dark cave like that of ahch-to. a lot of floating orbs are in there tho. kylo enters further and one of the orbs turns into anakin appearing as a hybrid force ghost, mix of both anakin and vader, hooded with yellow eyes like in ROTS, he is wielding a red lightsaber. however, anakin does not engage with kylo, he simply leads kylo to follow along until he comes across a ton of sith relics.

this was an idea that Abrams actually had in TFA, as seen in the visual dictionary, art book.


 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #765
scene where luke is in a jedi temple, walking along in the darkness/smoke, wielding a green lightsaber, hearing voices in the distance, he follows it, and he arrives at a vision of snoke holding a white lightsaber, luke takes a swing but nothing happens to snoke. this seems like a flashback of the carnage of the jedi academy. another scene in the same flashback showing ben and snoke together, luke watching as snoke hands kylo the cross-hilt saber, showing he has turned. an essential aspect of this is exploring the new eu where luke and snoke have a past, were connected in some way, why they have a grudge against each other, etc.

 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #766
scene showing a young rey with two adults, male and female, who resemble rey. the man is pony-tailed and wearing jedi-like clothes. the woman is wearing a white dress. the man kisses rey on the forehead and tucks rey into bed. then another scene where this father goes outside and turns on a hologram of young snoke without injuries. snoke discusses and shows diagrams of a snowy world under construction (SKB), snoke is wearing black cloke not the gold robe, snoke points his finger at him, a terse moment, and then the hologram cuts out.

 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #767
abrams connecting not only the entire movies into IX, but also the greater era found in books and cartoons, example, rebels connection will be included.

hints that ezra bridger could have a part in the movie. scene where maz canata and her crew are fighting stormtroopers in a jungle world, one character part of her crew is an older man wearing a green vest, black flowing hair, holding a blaster, on his belt is a lightsaber hilted, tanned skin and blue eyes like Ezra. one of the characters in the movie is nicknamed "eb"...which could suggest ezra bridger given the description of this scene.

also as to explain what happened to ezra and thrawn at the conclusion of rebels.

this ep9 apparently will contain a war to end all wars, to finish off the skywalker saga, avengers feel to it, lot of characters being introduced and killed, to show how and why the whole skywalker era ends and what kind of galaxy is left in conclusion.

 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #768
adam driver and richard e grant in a scene together. grant's character wearing white naval uniform and black cape. scene in a control room. they have an argument. another scene fight scene between kylo and stormtroopers, lots of pyrotechnics etc. another scene of kylo and KoR invading a village and engaging in a full on battle, driver to have a stunt double. another scene rey and kylo together talking in front of the falcon, perhaps a force bond moment. in terms of grant's character....as leaked before, an opening scene of IX is how resistance people have captured an important figure, tied to a horse with a bag over his head, turns out to be hux, held captive, so grant's character could be a replacement general in the meantime.

 

edgie

Hall of Famer
Joined
Apr 27, 2008
Posts
38,029
Likes
40,368
Location
The 'Yabba
AFL Club
Port Adelaide
Other Teams
Chael Sonnen: Moral Champion
A lot of people are having a hard time getting past how Luke was presented and their interpretation of how he 'went out'. But he came back, had his moment with Leia, engaged Kylo, and helped the Rebels escape. It's now set up for him to play a role in the final act. Once we see how that plays out, I think people will start to see what a brave move RJ made; making Luke a wise Jedi warrior was the easy option, but also largely the least interesting. I don't want to see Luke as Obi-Wan or Yoda, just repeating the same beats. He now gets a whole new arc that I think is far more interesting.
In what way did Luke not repeat their beats?

He didn't exactly strut in and tear shit up. He did just what Obi Wan did in the OT.

Sent from mTalk
 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #772
snoke's connection to the solo family
scene with luke, leia, han, r2, chewy and snoke all together. luke sitting in the falcon with r2, younger, wearing ceremonial robes, appears exhausted, leia and chewy in the background. luke and han talking after ben has betrayed luke, leia shows luke a snoke hologram. solo watching as it shows snoke has ties with the republic, leia knew snoke and turns it off as tho realizing a betrayal in the republic.

 

GG.exe

Killer on the Road ™
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Posts
96,632
Likes
51,248
Location
In every girl's wet dream
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
Ravens-Raiders-Dolphins
Thread starter #773
rather than post each video in a new post, just link the zeroh channel, and a brief summary of each video im catching up on.

i'll do this in future when catching up on a lot of info/videos because mike zeroh especially is incredibly annoying.

----------

https://www.youtube.com/user/drunkchickenTV/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=2

----------

- scene of kylo inside his chambers, on the table is charred vader helmet, parts of his suit and prosthetics, as tho kylo were trying to rebuild him. in kylos hand is vaders lightsaber broken into many pieces.

- supposedly an epic lightsaber duel to end all lightsaber duels, involving rey and kylo in a long fight in the backdrop of a landslide, on a cliff, while climbing a cliff too, on a shaky bridge, etc.

- ahsoka tano perhaps in the movie. scene rey, finn, poe with dead stormtroopers around them, fallen trees, rubble, smoke/fire, after a major battle, and in the background is a female togruta on her belt a lightsaber hilted, same outfit as what ahsoka wore in rebels finale, an older female around 50s, same skin tone, etc, she talks to rey and kneels down in front of bb8.

- leia scene with maz canata. in a control room. maz hands leia luke's lightsaber in one piece. leia ignites it. then deactivates it. then another bit where leia's hands are seen opening the lightsaber, like a person taking apart a rifle, examining it, showing theres a new kyber crystal inside it.

- how does IX end? talk how abrams is a great fixer but not a good closer. apparently the ending is a mix of elements of the endings of ROTS and ROTJ with some ST elements to make something unpredictable but emotionally satisfying whilst also tragic for one or two of the main new characters.

- image from a leaked TFA deleted scene where robert bolter? played a young luke in rey's flashback in TFA that was deleted.

- lot of scenes of rey, finn, poe working together. also a lot of scenes of kylo with finn, poe and rey individually and together. one of the scenes, is a standoff between kylo and kor and rey and her gang of poe/finn/etc, exterior of a wrecked base on a jungle planet, kylo and rey going at it, whilst poe/finn/etc are fighting the kor in martial arts type action.

- abrams/terrio doing a lot to make this movie stand out from 7 and 8. a new rumor is that george lucas is going to direct one scene from IX, that has to do with one of the original characters. could be luke, as a lot of mark hammill's scenes are set to be shot during the same time frame as lucas is reportedly due to work on a scene in IX.

- what kind of role will palpatine have in IX? one scene of rey in a darkened vault of sith relics with r2 who has a flashlight on. on a table is an item with a cloth over it. it's revealed to be a sith holocron. rey turns on the holocron, she sees a vision of palpatine and stormtroopers in that same vault as they transport all these sith artifacts into this vault, and includes palpatine placing the very holocron rey is watching under the cloth on the table.

- scene of rey in a cave with light shining thru. a voice is speaking to rey. it's kenobi. she sees a force ghost of kenobi, who sits next to her. he shows her some ancient writings on a wall, kenobi is translating them to her. rey, luke and kenobi all end up standing together facing the wall, reading the writings on the wall.

- how will rey actually become a jedi, given shes so powerful already compared to how anakin and luke both spent time learning and training? scene of rey reading ancient jedi texts with c3p0 in a ship. c3 translating them for her. another scene of rey inside a jedi temple, with many writings on the wall, she is placing her hand over the text as tho she has acquired the power to translate these texts now. luke standing behind her with his hand on her shoulder.

- abrams planning on a huge plot twist that involves one of the original characters and one of the sequel characters, that would resonate beyond the skywalker saga too, that changes everything. suspicions it could be luke and rey. apparently something huge is coming for the luke character based on an insider. so thoughts this could tie in with the plot twist rumor.

- kathleen kennedy signed on till end of 2021 as president of lucasfilm. but she will not be involved as she was in TLJ. abrams has full control of IX and doing whatever he wants to do, including post-production.

- scene of hux with a blaster and stormtroopers turning against kylo, who then engage in a fight. hux commanding stormtroopers to fire on kylo.

- scene of rey in a dark cave with r2 around. shes sitting on a rock meditating. a red kyber crystal broken into three pieces are hovering over her head, using the force she tries to bond them back together. apparently abrams will be utilizing a lot of sith and jedi lore in IX.

- another scene revealing rey's father, her important lineage. whilst poe and finn are off doing something on this desert world, perhaps jakku, rey is walking around the campsite at night and she sees an old man with a hood over his face and carrying a staff exactly like rey's. he pulls his hood off and it's someone who greatly resembles rey. rey recognizes him and hurries to him, but he runs off into a cave. rey runs into the cave and she finds sith and jedi relics.

- scene of kylo sitting on his chair in his throne room. luke appears as three lukes standing side by side in front of kylo. the luke in the middle is as he appears on ahch-to, with ceremonial clothes, long hair and beard. on the right is luke with short hair and beard and black robe. on the left is luke with short hair and clean-faced and white robe. eventually kylo ignites his saber and attacks one of them thinking that's the real one, but it's not, it disappears to a different part of the room, and then all three lukes merge into one, who then points his finger at kylo, lecturing him. this appears to be luke taunting/haunting kylo as he promised he would at the end of TLJ. a new force power for luke never seen before in the eu.

- scene of kylo in brutal savage action, a village slaughter scene, full on kylo rampage, and is intended to show how truly dark kylo is, unlike how tfa and tlj showed him as. abrams wants to make kylo more evil and menacing, fully committed to the dark side, not a conflicted weakling as he has become.

- scene of kylo working on a lightsaber, more of an ancient design, kylo inserting a green crytal inside an ancient relic lightsaber, meditating and trying to convert a green crystal into a red crystal by making it "bleed", as darth vader did in an eu comic. remember also too ezra finding a crossguard green lightsaber in rebels. so speculation could be kylo with this very same saber that ezra found there.

- one of the final scenes at the ending of IX. kylo in a cockpit, attacking a resistance base at the time of dusk, which has never been done in SW, a huge battle at dusk. lots of rubble and fire. same battle scene involves many characters all engaging in a mega battle going on in multiple locations. lando in the air as well fighting, while rey fighting on the ground, as too "mara" character, etc. basically, IX is a war to end all wars, an all-out war. which makes sense, like they all wipe each other out, there's no more empire-rebels remnants to carry on.

- scene explaining how maz ended up with luke's lightsaber. flashback sequence extension of tfa flashback scene. kylo and kor in rain, killing everyone. a lone survivor is holding luke's saber, he ignites it, kylo kills him. the lightsaber falls and rolls down a hill. a creature/maz happens to be at the bottom of the hill hiding, they pick up the lightsaber and run off with it as kylo/kor chase after them. but they manage to escape in a ship waiting for them.

- scene of kylo reading a manuscript by darth plagueis, how to create life, a plagueis holocron he also opens, and plagueis staff is also there. scene happens on jakku, secret vault where palpatine had stored a lot of sith relics.

- the IX trailer will be released on april 11 2019. but work on the trailer will actually begin in early december.

- the working titles for IX have been reflecting on elements of what the film is about, gives hints. there was black diamond, then trixie, then nexus, and now comos. black diamond = snokes ring. trixie = snoke himself. nexus = worlds between worlds. cosmos = the outer regions.

- huge space battle scene. rey in gunner seat of falcon, rey shooting down ties and new first order ships. another space battle similar or as significant to opening battle of ROTS. kylo in the cockpit during this battle against numerous resistance ships, lando/etc are involved in this battle in the falcon. new cgi tech will be used in this sequence that allows to make battles look ultra-realistic. a lot of leia unused scenes from tfa will be used here, where the resistance has a super-weapon called the sledgehammer which tears star destroyers apart. the "mara" character will also be in this battle in a cockpit her own, unknown if shes fighting for the resistance or the first order. another scene showing rey in the falcon docking inside a star destroyer as a callback to a new hope.

- scene with kylo in a control room with a lot of obstacles/doorways/etc for taking cover, similar to vader's rampage rogue one scene, but kylo is slaughtering stormstroopers here as he perhaps chases down hux. another scene finn rose and poe in a rainy city alley way with bb8 seeking after someone important, rumored to be roda the hutt, jabba's son.

- scene in kylo's throne room. where the "mara" character, red hair and wearing all black, black boots, and blaster strapped to her thigh, she is kneeling before him, the KoR are sll standing there. surrounding him. kylo signals one of them, who gives kylo a lightsaber, kylo hands it to her, and she leaves the throne room. perhaps this character is named "mara" because she is an assassin/apprentice for kylo, which resembles mara jade from the eu where she was palpatines assassin. she might not actually be mara, but recreating or mimicking that.

- IX set to break tradition, but not in a TLJ way that upsets fans. perhaps something more like a main character like rey dying. or maybe the bad guys win, etc.

- scene of kylo on a speeder in a desert world. aping the scenes of maul in the TPM and anakin in AOTC, kylo with blasters on the handlebars and KoR following behind, sunset sequence with canyon backdrop.

- scene of rey finn and poe in a first order base, rey with lightsaber, finn with a weapon like fought phasma with, and poe with a blaster rifle with a scope, a callback scene of han, luke and leia fighting out during an escape in ANH, richard e grant's character is a first order villain leading a battalion against them.

- one aspect of ST has been the lack of loss of limbs. one scene has rey and kylo in a lightsaber duel in a large empty room with control panels in the background. she is unconscious on the floor, lightsaber in one hand, and her other hand is badly injured, her fingers in a glove severed on the floor. kylo lifts her using force power and takes her away. cuts to scene of a medical droid working on rey's severed hand with kylo watching on, then he leaves the room.
 

Deliverance

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jun 19, 2011
Posts
5,771
Likes
8,658
Location
MCG
AFL Club
Hawthorn
With the 'casual nerd' at it's peak, there's no such thing at the moment of over saturation in terms of success, however some of the older traditional Star Wars fan base may tire of it. I think the studio is ok with that as long the dollars keep rolling in. All criticism of this direction will just be put down to haters and neckbeards because there's no such thing as too much Star Wars*, that's what they will say.
































*Apart from this, as the group think has determined.
I dropped out after ep 7. That was a piece of shit after a steady decline previously.
 

SM

Bigfooty Legend
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Posts
83,774
Likes
44,791
Location
North Shore
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Hull City, Adelaide United, EH
rather than post each video in a new post, just link the zeroh channel, and a brief summary of each video im catching up on.

i'll do this in future when catching up on a lot of info/videos because mike zeroh especially is incredibly annoying.

----------

https://www.youtube.com/user/drunkchickenTV/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=2

----------

- scene of kylo inside his chambers, on the table is charred vader helmet, parts of his suit and prosthetics, as tho kylo were trying to rebuild him. in kylos hand is vaders lightsaber broken into many pieces.

- supposedly an epic lightsaber duel to end all lightsaber duels, involving rey and kylo in a long fight in the backdrop of a landslide, on a cliff, while climbing a cliff too, on a shaky bridge, etc.

- ahsoka tano perhaps in the movie. scene rey, finn, poe with dead stormtroopers around them, fallen trees, rubble, smoke/fire, after a major battle, and in the background is a female togruta on her belt a lightsaber hilted, same outfit as what ahsoka wore in rebels finale, an older female around 50s, same skin tone, etc, she talks to rey and kneels down in front of bb8.

- leia scene with maz canata. in a control room. maz hands leia luke's lightsaber in one piece. leia ignites it. then deactivates it. then another bit where leia's hands are seen opening the lightsaber, like a person taking apart a rifle, examining it, showing theres a new kyber crystal inside it.

- how does IX end? talk how abrams is a great fixer but not a good closer. apparently the ending is a mix of elements of the endings of ROTS and ROTJ with some ST elements to make something unpredictable but emotionally satisfying whilst also tragic for one or two of the main new characters.

- image from a leaked TFA deleted scene where robert bolter? played a young luke in rey's flashback in TFA that was deleted.

- lot of scenes of rey, finn, poe working together. also a lot of scenes of kylo with finn, poe and rey individually and together. one of the scenes, is a standoff between kylo and kor and rey and her gang of poe/finn/etc, exterior of a wrecked base on a jungle planet, kylo and rey going at it, whilst poe/finn/etc are fighting the kor in martial arts type action.

- abrams/terrio doing a lot to make this movie stand out from 7 and 8. a new rumor is that george lucas is going to direct one scene from IX, that has to do with one of the original characters. could be luke, as a lot of mark hammill's scenes are set to be shot during the same time frame as lucas is reportedly due to work on a scene in IX.

- what kind of role will palpatine have in IX? one scene of rey in a darkened vault of sith relics with r2 who has a flashlight on. on a table is an item with a cloth over it. it's revealed to be a sith holocron. rey turns on the holocron, she sees a vision of palpatine and stormtroopers in that same vault as they transport all these sith artifacts into this vault, and includes palpatine placing the very holocron rey is watching under the cloth on the table.

- scene of rey in a cave with light shining thru. a voice is speaking to rey. it's kenobi. she sees a force ghost of kenobi, who sits next to her. he shows her some ancient writings on a wall, kenobi is translating them to her. rey, luke and kenobi all end up standing together facing the wall, reading the writings on the wall.

- how will rey actually become a jedi, given shes so powerful already compared to how anakin and luke both spent time learning and training? scene of rey reading ancient jedi texts with c3p0 in a ship. c3 translating them for her. another scene of rey inside a jedi temple, with many writings on the wall, she is placing her hand over the text as tho she has acquired the power to translate these texts now. luke standing behind her with his hand on her shoulder.

- abrams planning on a huge plot twist that involves one of the original characters and one of the sequel characters, that would resonate beyond the skywalker saga too, that changes everything. suspicions it could be luke and rey. apparently something huge is coming for the luke character based on an insider. so thoughts this could tie in with the plot twist rumor.

- kathleen kennedy signed on till end of 2021 as president of lucasfilm. but she will not be involved as she was in TLJ. abrams has full control of IX and doing whatever he wants to do, including post-production.

- scene of hux with a blaster and stormtroopers turning against kylo, who then engage in a fight. hux commanding stormtroopers to fire on kylo.

- scene of rey in a dark cave with r2 around. shes sitting on a rock meditating. a red kyber crystal broken into three pieces are hovering over her head, using the force she tries to bond them back together. apparently abrams will be utilizing a lot of sith and jedi lore in IX.

- another scene revealing rey's father, her important lineage. whilst poe and finn are off doing something on this desert world, perhaps jakku, rey is walking around the campsite at night and she sees an old man with a hood over his face and carrying a staff exactly like rey's. he pulls his hood off and it's someone who greatly resembles rey. rey recognizes him and hurries to him, but he runs off into a cave. rey runs into the cave and she finds sith and jedi relics.

- scene of kylo sitting on his chair in his throne room. luke appears as three lukes standing side by side in front of kylo. the luke in the middle is as he appears on ahch-to, with ceremonial clothes, long hair and beard. on the right is luke with short hair and beard and black robe. on the left is luke with short hair and clean-faced and white robe. eventually kylo ignites his saber and attacks one of them thinking that's the real one, but it's not, it disappears to a different part of the room, and then all three lukes merge into one, who then points his finger at kylo, lecturing him. this appears to be luke taunting/haunting kylo as he promised he would at the end of TLJ. a new force power for luke never seen before in the eu.

- scene of kylo in brutal savage action, a village slaughter scene, full on kylo rampage, and is intended to show how truly dark kylo is, unlike how tfa and tlj showed him as. abrams wants to make kylo more evil and menacing, fully committed to the dark side, not a conflicted weakling as he has become.

- scene of kylo working on a lightsaber, more of an ancient design, kylo inserting a green crytal inside an ancient relic lightsaber, meditating and trying to convert a green crystal into a red crystal by making it "bleed", as darth vader did in an eu comic. remember also too ezra finding a crossguard green lightsaber in rebels. so speculation could be kylo with this very same saber that ezra found there.

- one of the final scenes at the ending of IX. kylo in a cockpit, attacking a resistance base at the time of dusk, which has never been done in SW, a huge battle at dusk. lots of rubble and fire. same battle scene involves many characters all engaging in a mega battle going on in multiple locations. lando in the air as well fighting, while rey fighting on the ground, as too "mara" character, etc. basically, IX is a war to end all wars, an all-out war. which makes sense, like they all wipe each other out, there's no more empire-rebels remnants to carry on.

- scene explaining how maz ended up with luke's lightsaber. flashback sequence extension of tfa flashback scene. kylo and kor in rain, killing everyone. a lone survivor is holding luke's saber, he ignites it, kylo kills him. the lightsaber falls and rolls down a hill. a creature/maz happens to be at the bottom of the hill hiding, they pick up the lightsaber and run off with it as kylo/kor chase after them. but they manage to escape in a ship waiting for them.

- scene of kylo reading a manuscript by darth plagueis, how to create life, a plagueis holocron he also opens, and plagueis staff is also there. scene happens on jakku, secret vault where palpatine had stored a lot of sith relics.

- the IX trailer will be released on april 11 2019. but work on the trailer will actually begin in early december.

- the working titles for IX have been reflecting on elements of what the film is about, gives hints. there was black diamond, then trixie, then nexus, and now comos. black diamond = snokes ring. trixie = snoke himself. nexus = worlds between worlds. cosmos = the outer regions.

- huge space battle scene. rey in gunner seat of falcon, rey shooting down ties and new first order ships. another space battle similar or as significant to opening battle of ROTS. kylo in the cockpit during this battle against numerous resistance ships, lando/etc are involved in this battle in the falcon. new cgi tech will be used in this sequence that allows to make battles look ultra-realistic. a lot of leia unused scenes from tfa will be used here, where the resistance has a super-weapon called the sledgehammer which tears star destroyers apart. the "mara" character will also be in this battle in a cockpit her own, unknown if shes fighting for the resistance or the first order. another scene showing rey in the falcon docking inside a star destroyer as a callback to a new hope.

- scene with kylo in a control room with a lot of obstacles/doorways/etc for taking cover, similar to vader's rampage rogue one scene, but kylo is slaughtering stormstroopers here as he perhaps chases down hux. another scene finn rose and poe in a rainy city alley way with bb8 seeking after someone important, rumored to be roda the hutt, jabba's son.

- scene in kylo's throne room. where the "mara" character, red hair and wearing all black, black boots, and blaster strapped to her thigh, she is kneeling before him, the KoR are sll standing there. surrounding him. kylo signals one of them, who gives kylo a lightsaber, kylo hands it to her, and she leaves the throne room. perhaps this character is named "mara" because she is an assassin/apprentice for kylo, which resembles mara jade from the eu where she was palpatines assassin. she might not actually be mara, but recreating or mimicking that.

- IX set to break tradition, but not in a TLJ way that upsets fans. perhaps something more like a main character like rey dying. or maybe the bad guys win, etc.

- scene of kylo on a speeder in a desert world. aping the scenes of maul in the TPM and anakin in AOTC, kylo with blasters on the handlebars and KoR following behind, sunset sequence with canyon backdrop.

- scene of rey finn and poe in a first order base, rey with lightsaber, finn with a weapon like fought phasma with, and poe with a blaster rifle with a scope, a callback scene of han, luke and leia fighting out during an escape in ANH, richard e grant's character is a first order villain leading a battalion against them.

- one aspect of ST has been the lack of loss of limbs. one scene has rey and kylo in a lightsaber duel in a large empty room with control panels in the background. she is unconscious on the floor, lightsaber in one hand, and her other hand is badly injured, her fingers in a glove severed on the floor. kylo lifts her using force power and takes her away. cuts to scene of a medical droid working on rey's severed hand with kylo watching on, then he leaves the room.
No one else cares mate. It's just clutter at this stage.
 
Top Bottom