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the whole series (only about nine of them), where Urban Acolyte discusses some fan theories heading into IX. The very last one is interesting about KoR and whether there's another Snoke apprentice out there who will oppose Kylo in IX.

Also, I heard a rumor that the KoR feature half of them are women, the faces of three of the six of them, show in IX, their masks off during a scene.

 

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another fan theory ive heard is Holdo was actually playing both sides, is part of the upper class elite that we see in canto bight who were neutrals, selling weapons to both sides. given Holdo is dressed the same as those canto bight people, and not like an actual military leader.
 

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I worry Abrams is just going to copy the OT formula, especially with rumors how IX will have a massive plot twist. Rey and Kylo siblings all along. And Snoke is their real father. Because Snoke had a secret relationship with Leia behind Han's back, because he was always off doing his little missions, and Leia spending a lot of time in the Senate, where Snoke character had a political position.

Already there's gonna be some other things copied from ROTJ like a huge final battle, a jungle world (like Endor), and a swamp world (like Dagobah). As well as elements from ROTS he's copying like the Anakin-Obi long fight with Rey-Kylo.

I worry about Abrams. Plus with all the rumors about all these flashbacks going on. Sounds like the movie is 50:50 flashbacks and current day content. That's not gonna work. The ST has been highlighted by lack of story-telling prowess and script-writing, to have to resort to flashbacks and such.
JJ is less brave than RJ; his films are steeped in nostalgia and paying homage to other directors. Regardless of whether one likes TLJ, it was creatively more original and risky with a real intent to open up the Star Wars universe.
 

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Disney announcing Ed Sheeran being cast as a Stormtrooper. What's with this trend now of casting celebrities as Stormtroopers? But now they're even announcing it before hand. It's like this is how troubling IX/ST is they have to resort to casting celebrity Stormtroopers to get people into the cinema.

 

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JJ is less brave than RJ; his films are steeped in nostalgia and paying homage to other directors. Regardless of whether one likes TLJ, it was creatively more original and risky with a real intent to open up the Star Wars universe.
JJ has put his name to some interesting things as producer. A shame his direct creations aren't as original.

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If Episode 9 is something new and succeeds, it will be because people want to be progressive and look ahead to the future...and Trump will be voted out.

If Episode 9 is something nostalgic and bombs, it will because people want to be progressive and look ahead to the future...and Trump will be voted out.
Trump will lose. His party lost the House of Representatives by 10 million votes.
If Trump is on his way out then it suggests (going by that topic) that Episode 9 will either be something new and succeeds, or, something nostalgic and bombs.

Going by Abrams (as JackOutback also recently posted) track-record, and what we also saw in TFA, and also by all the rumors/info that IX is going to tie all three sagas together, thus IX is going to be nostalgic....then it'll bomb :(
 

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Yep. But fans will be happy. And they’ll wonder why Episode 9 made less than TLJ when 9 “is a better movie”.

All one can hope is that they are talking about callbacks instead of flashbacks.

A callback is someone mentioning something mentioned previously. Like for instance, if Kylo found a holocron containing information collected by Darth Plagueis the Wise...that’s a callback.

A flashback would be Kylo finding a recording of Palpatine and Anakin talking about Darth Plagueis the Wise.

A callback would be the heroes finding out that the First Order has turned Cloud City into a concentration camp for political terrorists...and discovers that they are using the carbonite freezing chamber to increase inmate capacity.

A flashback is Rey using the Force to see a vision of Luke fighting Vader in said carbonite chamber.

Callbacks are fine (though you don’t want to over do it because it gets to the point where it becomes cheesy). Flashbacks are crap.
 

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What on earth are you trying to say here. Because SJW is a pejorative that covers many things, it actually diminishes its effect? SJW is a broad term used to whinge about everything from women to people of other races to sexual identity. You know, social justice concepts like equality. It absolutely can be sexist (and racist) and usually is. When people say Star Wars has become too SJW, it invariably relates to the fact it has a woman in a position of strength, a black man in a position of strength, anAsian woman etc.
Star Wars Episode V - Princess Leia in a position of power and esteem within the Rebellion, also a woman - Lando Calrissian, the leader of an entire mining colony/city, also a black man.

Is the Empire Strikes Back an "SJW" movie? No it is not.

Your point is wrong, being "SJW" does not relate to having women or diverse characters in positions of power, it is about exploring, or pandering, to fringe social theories perpetuated by real life social justice warriors, while detracting from the main story.

Effectively, an "SJW" movie is a movie that has a context that demands one type of action - say that a general in a rebellion fleet would keep the captain of her fighter pilot fleet in the loop about a plan they have developed - and yet elects not to portray that action (which is demanded by the context) in order to promote an external social agend, in this case Holdo not telling Poe the plan because he's a stupid arrogant man and Holdo and her all female leadership cast can sort this out without a man's influence. By doing this, a film creates a critical error that ruins narrative flow where the audience is left wondering, why the **** did that character do that? And the answer is... so Hollywood elites can feel good about themselves and the film might get a positivie write up in the Huffington Post or some other leftist rag.
 

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You’ve got to stop giving these clowns your valuable hits, GG. In addition to poor grammar, it’s lack of credibility comes to the fore when it keeps discussing the ‘huge failure’ of TLJ; you know, the film that made $1.3b. Whether it underperformed is a valid discussion, calling it a huge failure is delusional.
 

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All these youtubers GG, do they have any sort of track record? Meaning, did they get anything right do TFA and TLJ?

I’ve never watched any of these videos. The only site I paid attention to over the years was Making Star Wars, which seemed to report many things correctly.

Haven’t checked on them in over a year as my interest has significantly deteriorated after TLJ, but if I was going to check on rumours for episode 9, that’s where I’d go first.

If these are channels just cobbling together random bits and putting a nice thumbnail on their just for hits, you’re giving them exactly what they want.
 

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I wonder if JJ Abrams is going to troll Rian and/or hardcore fans by having something about Jar Jar Binks in episode IX.

For instance, the best troll, would be to retcon, and make Jar Jar Binks the secret dark side master pulling all the strings above Snoke and Sidious.
 

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JJ plans to have the biggest plot twist of all time in Ep9, bigger than Vader's Iam Your Father moment, and something that will alter perception of the PT and OT.

The only thing I can think of that would be that huge is if JJ trolls "Star Wars" by making Jar Jar Binks the secret master Sith Lord who has been controlling everything from behind the scenes.
 

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Star Wars: It's totally ****** now.

Kylo is actually a broom, masquerading as a horse, pretending to be a Sith Lord.

Rey turns out to be Dr Who.

Finn gets his own talk show.

Force ghost Luke and Yoda go on a road trip to Vegas, smashing shrooms and getting into all sorts of hi-jinks.
 
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