Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

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Nothing is original in movies. At best you get unique take


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Unique takes ripped from the earlier movies in the saga?

This isn't like 'poetry, it rhymes', more like The Ramones, second verse, same as the first.


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Goodness me, the misconception that TLJ was a truly original experience is going to win isn't it? Go down as an irrefutable fact?


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Yes, because people are talking about the story and overall themes, not a few scenes that were deliberately designed to ensure familiarity within the brand.
 

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That's a bounty hunter's uniform and helmet. So she's not aligned to either side. A mercenary. So is probably just out there getting work for whomever pays her. But at some point in the movie when all the s**t hits the fan with this bigger darker unknown bad guy, everyone will have to team up.

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Since Vader died in VI.
Untrue, he returned as a ghostling, then shifted to ghostenson.

And unless retconning occurred, they technically still live as part of mythos to be brought back at any single time anyone wants to bring back and insert.

I mean, Mauls been cleaved in half, fell a few stories down a shaft, what is sticking him with the pointy bit actually going to do?

He's only part droid, not full droid.
 

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Untrue, he returned as a ghostling, then shifted to ghostenson.

And unless retconning occurred, they technically still live as part of mythos to be brought back at any single time anyone wants to bring back and insert.

I mean, Mauls been cleaved in half, fell a few stories down a shaft, what is sticking him with the pointy bit actually going to do?

He's only part droid, not full droid.
Untrue, Anakin did. Not Vader.
 

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Not sure I follow.
Meaning he's transitioned to force ghost, force is inherently neutral, there's no position that "light" ghost is unable to transition to "dark" ghost and flip flop, thus Vader is not truly dead as it is Anakin as ghost.

You are suggesting that there is zero chance of a flip, considering we've seen taint of armour is still "dark" so there must still be residual "dark" energy within the universe tied to the person.
 

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As described in TLJ novelization and in Poe Dameron comics recently released that occur post-TLJ, Leia's health is deteriorating due to exposure to solar radiation when doing her mary poppins flight thru space in TLJ. Her health quickly starts going downhill in TROS, and she has to hand the reins of the Resistance to Poe. During Kylo and Rey battles in TROS, Rey tries to use this information to turn Kylo to the light side, as he acknowledges his affection for his mother is a weakness, but that it's not going to turn him from the dark side of the force no matter what. And in turn, Kylo tries to turn Rey to the dark while Rey is trying to turn him to the light, thruout all their many battles in TROS.
 

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Apparently George Lucas DID get consulted a lot by JJ and Terio, brought into scriptwriting sessions and shoots to help with including Legends material and to help create a big reveal for Rey's identity.

Disney are planning for Rey's identity reveal to be bigger than the "Iam your father" moment in TESB, such that it also has saga-wide implications -- reverberating across the PT, OT, and ST, changing how we perceive everything. In ROTJ we also got the revelation Leia and Luke are twins. Back then, nobody was expecting anything of the sort, and a simple set and script trickery helped also sell it to the actors involved. Also no internet back then.

This time around, however, it's almost an impossible task trying to fabricate such an iconic cinema/cultural moment again. Especially as Rey's identity has been Mystery Box'd to hell, and every known theory has been delved over already.

The obvious ones that stand out...Rey is Shmi, Rey is Padme, Rey is Plagueis, Rey is Luke's hand, etc etc. I highly doubt they could pull anything like that TESB moment off again with anything like those suggestions. Everyone is expecting something like that now.

Could also be a red-herring, fake info so people expect something huge but it's something not huge at all, or a misdirection where it's another character who has the big reveal, not Rey.

If indeed there is a big reveal, I'm thinking they pulled a similar trick on all the actors in the movie too, so that none of them knew it at the time of shooting, a special scene/script re-write given to Rey and another actor, but all the other actors were given a different script so were blown away when Rey acted out what her special script was.

Still, I like a few comments from youtube....

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Bigger than 'I am your Father'?
Kylo Ren: I ... Am your Brother...
Rey: Noooo! That's not true. That's impossible!

She’s Yoda’s mother...but also Yoda’s grandchild

Palpatine is Anakin's father. Palpatine fathered another child many years later with a different mother. Rey is that child. Anakin Skywalker and Rey are brother and sister -- that's the shocking moment we're going to receive.

Having to fix everything the last guy screwed up in one movie must be a hell of a job

Sounds like a bad "Back to the future" style fix fest. I hope they can pull it off, but it seems pretty screwed up...especially to hope to accomplish all this in just one movie

What if Rey's real name is revealed in TROS as Mary Sue

I suppose if you're going to kill the franchise you might as well kill it properly and make sure it's stone dead

Having Lucas and JJ trying to fix it is like having a doctor putting a baby back in the womb after an abortion
 
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