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I wonder if that Star Destroyer scene is them introducing an intergalactic threat?
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I think it could be a clone.Yes fair enough, trailer probably not the right description.
I've also read that theory, given everyone is expecting misdirection from TLJ's trailer suggesting that Rey was to join Kylo with the clever editing of his outstretched hand. So yes, that is quite a possibility. Maybe Disney knows everyone will be suspicious, so instead they give it to you on a platter. But the liklihood of her actually turning evil in this film? Slim I would say.
That lightsabre is ******* stupid.
That one shot, demonstrates that, once again, they'll go style over substance.
sure does...Hmmm...
Possibly a clone...
Possibly a massive abandoned fleet...
This is sounding like Tim Zahn - Dark Force Rising....
The dying Empire's most cunning and ruthless warlord—Grand Admiral Thrawn—has taken command of the remnants of the Imperial fleet and launched a massive campaign aimed at the New Republic's destruction. Meanwhile, Han and Lando Calrissian race against time to find proof of treason inside the highest Republic Council—only to discover instead a ghostly fleet of warships that could bring doom to their friends and victory to their enemies.
Yet most dangerous of all is a new Dark Jedi, risen from the ashes of a shrouded past, consumed by bitterness… and scheming to corrupt Luke Skywalker to the Dark Side.
they are OT ones, perhaps the empire itself is back from the unknown regions to challenge the First Order.Those star destroyers are from the OT apparently
Possibly a massive abandoned fleet...
actually, that is what is going to happen.
the remnants of the empire got trapped in the unknown regions, or were deliberately in hiding there....all those old OT-era star destroyers are theirs.
one of palpatines contigency plans before the Death Star 2 was destroyed was developing a Death Star 3, in case 2 got blown up like 1.
the remnants of the empire however ended up incorporating the Death Star 3's laser weaponry into all their individual star destroyers.
the death star 3 had red beam, instead of green (2), and that's why we see a red beam destroying the surface of kimiji in the trailer as rey, bliss, and gang all make a getaway before the planet gets smoked -- a la Rogue One.
the old empire makes a return, to lay claim to the galaxy. the first order and the resistance apparently team up to try to stop them at the end.
that is the wordSounds feasible.
So you wanted an OT remake? No thanks.agreed.
it's going to be a clusterfu** of nostalgia callbacks
and lots of rey-vs-kylo fighting but no one cares about them fighting, they've fought so often now, and even had a spark of romance, it's boring, there's nothing left to the imagination with them.
unlike say how luke vs vader came about, we saw vader being ever so bad and intimidating and destroying all in his path, across a whole movie, and then when the poor orphan boy with big dreams wanted to be a jedi, he had to face vader, even had that dagobah cave scene to make it even more scarier for him to go up against this shadowy figure who was unstoppable.
then we saw luke get mutilated by him in ep5, and then ep6 pretty much went the whole film before they finally met in a return fight RIGHT AT THE END.
but in the ST, kylo's shadowyness disappeared when he took off his mask early in ep7, and rey had a slight moment in the forest against him, where he schooled her, but she still went unscathed, and warded him off, and then she kicked his ass at the end of 7. so already they ended up meeting each other at least three times in the first movie....and then in ep8 RJ erred by having them both constantly in contact with each other, spending so much time together, romantically too, and indeed, they ended up fighting TOGETHER against snoke's guards, so there's no tension or fear or suspense.
now we're going to get overloaded again with more rey and kylo fights. there's zero suspense created in the whole thing.
so stupid by jj, rj, lf
no, just illustrating how the OT got it right and the ST got it wrong.So you wanted an OT remake? No thanks.
that obviously was the plan, but then TLJ backlash occurred and they no doubt heard and decided to "course correct" as Iger admitted.Disney: let the past die. Move on. There are infinite stories to tell in this large Star Wars galaxy.
Also Disney: here’s Qui-Gonn, Obi-Wan, young Anakin, Darth Maul, Padme, young Han, young Leia, young Luke and Darth Vader.
Oh and we also have plenty of stormtroopers, homages to OT scenes, Lando is back, lots of the Falcon, Han’s dice, medals from ANH, dual ended lightsabers, OT star destroyers, and yeah the Death Star 2 as well.
And also, Palpatine is back too.
To be fair, 'let the past die' is RJ, then Lucasfilm, then lastly Disney. JJ was all in on nostalgia.Disney: let the past die. Move on. There are infinite stories to tell in this large Star Wars galaxy.
Also Disney: here’s Qui-Gonn, Obi-Wan, young Anakin, Darth Maul, Padme, young Han, young Leia, young Luke and Darth Vader.
Oh and we also have plenty of stormtroopers, homages to OT scenes, Lando is back, lots of the Falcon, Han’s dice, medals from ANH, dual ended lightsabers, OT star destroyers, and yeah the Death Star 2 as well.
And also, Palpatine is back too.
To be fair, 'let the past die' is RJ, then Lucasfilm, then lastly Disney. JJ was all in on nostalgia.
That said, moving on doesn't require the abandonment of all references. You can still use popular motifs because it's still a Star Wars movie. What matters is that at the end, the story has moved on beyond the Skywalkers, Rebels/Empire etc. TROS could reference a million things from both previous trilogies, but if the end result is that the entire story is closed off, then mission accomplished.