Movie Star Wars: The Force Awakens - *Spoilers & Rumours inside*

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From wookiepedia...

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A similar personality, Jacen Solo, appeared in the continuity of Star Wars Legends. Like Kylo Ren, Jacen was the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa who was trained as a Jedi by Luke Skywalker, only to turn to the dark side and take a new name, Darth Caedus.[8] A villainous character named Kybo Ren appeared in the 1985 Star Wars: Droids animated series.[9] Michael Arndt stated Kylo Ren's backstory came about from needing a rationale for the original trilogy's main characters to have separated after Return of the Jedi.[7]
 

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A Star Wars TV sitcom.
"One and a Half Droids"

After the breakdown of the empire, and the uncertain balance in the galaxy, our two favorite droids, c3po and r2d2, abandoned by their owners who have bigger things to worry, the droids are forced to share an apartment together as they get their lives back in order. Basically, a mix of the Odd Couple and 2 1/2 Men.
 
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Who is supposed to be more powerful in SW canon out of Luke and Anakin?
Anakin was supposed to be GOAT but could never fulfil his potential in account of his getting rekt by Obi Wan. This is why the Emperor was after Luke in RotJ, I think.

Luke was obviously more powerful by the end of RotJ because he defeated Anakin.
 

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Anakin was supposed to be GOAT but could never fulfil his potential in account of his getting rekt by Obi Wan. This is why the Emperor was after Luke in RotJ, I think.

Luke was obviously more powerful by the end of RotJ because he defeated Anakin.
The emperors motives were never clear to me but IIRC it was Vader's idea to turn Luke initially.

I'm guessing the Emporer wanted Luke because if he'd turned he'd be practically a younger non robot Vader.
 

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Quite honestly Abrams and Mindel stepped up their game with the cinematography of this film. There's so many wonderful shots in the movie and it's a hard choice to pick a favorite scene.

For instance, this shot. Visually, there's a little of Kubrick in it. And the use of colors...the black, blue and red on the ceiling. It's a cold, violent image, but it's also beautiful.



Reminds a lot of 2001 and A Clockwork Orange. The cold beauty and elegance of 2001, combined with the unsettling violence of A Clockwork Orange. Despite some who are labeling TFA a mere popcorn flick, this is a visually rich and layered film. It utilizes the visual language of cinema in a way that most blockbusters don't.

The various landscape shots on Jakku are worthy of David Lean and the various battle sequences remind of Peter Jackson's work in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. There are no doubts in Rian Johnson being able to hold his own in continuing with that level of visual quality, but one hopes Colin Trevorrow steps up his game and gets a better D.P. than the one he worked with on Jurassic World for Episode IX.

However it is a bit frustrating though that the editing of the film has resulted in some mistranslations of the cinematic language to the audiences in regards to the world-building information that it tries to convey.
 
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Well, did you read that article above??

Apparently, yes.
If it "cleans up", ie wins 6 Oscars or more, I will give you 500 Australian dollars.

If Harrison Ford wins the Oscar for Best Supporting, I will give you 500 Australian dollars.
 

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It's not just the mythological elements that are important. It's how they are executed, through a film's visuals and through its characters. Ant Man doesn't do so in such a visually and emotionally powerful way. Its mythological elements are coated in the mundane, and in the visually bland, and that will always keep its resonance muted. Not so with TFA.

In TFA, when the archetypal son (the Oedipal Ren) decides to kill the archetypal father (Han), a star winks out of existence, and the scene goes dark, illuminated only by a hellish red light. Nothing in Ant Man holds a candle to that moment.

In TFA, a hero and villain fight in what feels like a primeval forest. In the dark, and in the snow. Visually, it's a clash of blue and red light in the dark. It's beautiful and elemental simplicity is seared into the mind. Nothing in Ant Man holds a candle to that moment.

In TFA, a Percival (Rey) climbs an ancient mountain in the middle of a vast ocean to waken the Fisher King (Luke), by offering him his ancestral sword. He stands atop that mountain like a long-lost Druid of ancient Ireland. Nothing in Ant Man holds a candle to that moment.

As I've said before, the visual language Lucas created is one of the main reasons for this added resonance. But what Abrams does so well is to use that visual language in a way that Lucas once did, and to mobilize that language to create strong, mythic moments.

In my view, the Skellig scene is already a classic of modern cinema. I am going to bet that it will end up on lots of top 10 and top 20 lists in the future - by critics and audiences alike. I now fully understand why it was so important for the production to go through the hassle of filming there.
 

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Deal...

*shakes your hand*...
And if neither of these things happen, you give me 500 Australian dollars.

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Lol, he's scared now Mootsy
Seems like he actually read the article now and has changed his stance.
Originally it was like "bwahaha, i will GIVE you money if that happens".
Now it's, "oh but um err umm if it doesnt happen err umm you have to give me money".
 
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Lol, he's scared now Mootsy
Seems like he actually read the article now and has changed his stance.
Originally it was like "bwahaha, i will GIVE you money if that happens".
Now it's, "oh but um err umm if it doesnt happen err umm you have to give me money".
Lol how am I scared? I'll still give him the money if either of my predictions don't come off.

It MIGHT get a Best Picture nom but won't win. Harrison Ford won't even get nominated for Best Supporting, and even if he somehow does, a) it'd be a joke, b) he hasn't got a hope in hell. So I've got no idea where it's going to "clean up".
 
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