Star Wars Star Wars: The Last Jedi - THREAD PART 2 - *SPOILERS and RUMORS*

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Star Wars Theory: Were Padme’ and Obi-Wan having an affair?

March 28, 2017 By David 5 Comments

Is it possible that Padme and Obi-Wan were having an affair? A few episodes ago on the Intermission Podcast, the Intern proposed an interesting theory about the Star Wars prequels that you might want to hear about. So here it is, so you better listen good!


Obi-Wan and Padme affair?

While watching Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith for what must the 100th time, I thought to myself, “Why is Anakin so mad at Obi-Wan, I mean what did he ever do to him.” Then it came to me, Padme’ and Obi-Wan were having an affair! It was right in front of us the whole time. And here is why:

Padme and Obi Wan’s Affair: Reason the First
Way back in episode II, poor ol’ Obi-Wan kinda got himself captured by Dooku and the Separatists. Meanwhile, Anakin and Padme’ were the off galavanting around on Tatooine murdering sand people puppies and drinking blue milk, when they get the distress call. Anakin was all, “Leave him, let’s go bang on the bodies of the children I murdered.” And it was Padme’ that insisted they go save Obi-Wan, her lover. But after getting back with everyone safely, she came to her senses and decided to settle down with the sanest and most reasonable choice of the two…

Reason the Second:
Padme’ is super hot, why wouldn’t the guy who hasn’t seen any action in literally forever want to bang her? I can seriously think of no reason. And who knows, maybe she had daddy issues or something.

Reason the Third:

Obi Wan and Anakin, presumably fighting over Padme

In episode III, Anakin gets super mad at his mentor which leads him to eventually murder children (for a second time I might point out, because sand people are people too, it’s right there in the name). Now you really got to have a ton of rage built up to make you kill a bunch of innocent children TWICE. Way more rage than just the normal “He won’t let me grow up” thing. Way more.

So there was something else behind it that we didn’t see play out on screen, and the only thing that I can think of is that he suspected that Padme’ was cheating on him and he didn’t know with whom, which is why he turned to the darkside. It makes sense, trust me. Don’t question it. So when Padme’ brought her lover and secret baby daddy to Mustafar to get rid of her husband, Anakin lost it and choked her out. Just as many an angry husband has. Then it forced him to kill his former master, or try to at least…

Reason the Last:
Luke is a Kenobi! Leia is a Kenobi! REY is a Kenobi! They’re all Kenobi’s! The whole damn movie is about the Kenobi’s!

Think about it, why does Luke have such a strong connection to Old Ben? Cause he was his little force baby. Why was Leia such a good diplomat and negotiator? Cause Obi Wan was literally called The Negotiator, and she sprung from his loins (it had nothing to do with her mother in the least). And come on, Rey! She is more Kenobi than Obi Wan himself. The accent, the clothes, the solitude in a freakin desert!

It’s all there, you really can’t argue it. The whole Star Wars franchise is really the Kenobi story cleverly hidden behind the veil of the fallen Jedi Skywalker. Hopefully Episode VIII: The Last Jedi will finally reveal what’s been there all along, that the last and greatest line of Jedi all have been Kenobi’s. You are welcome. It’s all there, you really can’t argue it. The whole Star Wars franchise is really the Kenobi story cleverly hidden behind the veil of the fallen Jedi Skywalker. Hopefully Episode VIII: The Last Jedi will finally reveal what’s been there all along, that the last and greatest line of Jedi all have been Kenobi’s. You are welcome.
 

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I must be reading something different. I thought the complaints was about the duration Padme’s pregancy during ROTS.

Hardly anything to do with what you’ve compared it to above, but hey any chance to make poor old RJ as the victim hey :D
 

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In the original script, it was strongly hinted at that she "respected" Obi-Wan.

https://www.thethings.com/15-surprising-ways-the-phantom-menace-was-almost-a-very-different-movie/

"One of the many prequel related rumors fans have speculated about online is the possibility that Obi-Wan and Padmé had a secret affair. The problem is, there's really nothing in any of the prequels that indicates they were anything more than friends. But fan-fiction aside, an Obi-Wan and Padmé hookup isn't something that was totally off the table. According to the revised rough draft, George Lucas did initially hint at some sparks between the two. In fact, check out this quote from The Secret History of Star Wars: "As they enter Mos Espa, she (Padmé) gives Obi-Wan a long, adoring look... In Mos Espa, Padmé watches Kenobi with interest and respect, making Kenobi very nervous."

Clearly Padmé had a crush on Obi-Wan in the rough draft of Phantom Menace. Naturally, Obi-Wan, the stoic Jedi wasn't sure how to handle the advances of a young woman. The attraction would have made sense as Obi-Wan and Padmé were also closer in age in the early draft. As the prequels progressed, Padmé eventually ended up with Anakin (bad choice). Was Lucas possibly planting seeds for an eventual love triangle between Anakin, Padmé, and Obi-Wan? If so, could that have been one factor which would've contributed to Anakin and Obi-Wan's falling out? A very interesting dramatic possibility...ah well."
 

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"Thruout Revenge of the Sith he seems paranoid whenever Obi-Wan was in his house, acts spurned and jealous when Obi-Wan appears on Mustafar, and in the novel he heavily implies they're having an affair in his accusations, plus the whole strangling thing seems like a jealous partner who snaps into abusive territory. In the Clone Wars series he's shown to be a very jealous lover, highly suspicious of every man in Padme's life. Is it possible he thought they were sleeping with each other?"
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There was a lot of looks and eyes made between Padme and Obi-Wan in the whole PT. There's even a number of occasions in AOTC/ROTS when Obi-Wan and Padme touch in an intimate manner. Obi-Wan was introduced in AOTC as Padme's long-time pal, and Anakin hadn't seen her and she hadn't seen him, for many years. It was a surprise. So Obi-Wan and Padme had a LOT of time together. There are no accounts in the EU of what exactly transpired in the years before AOTC when Obi-Wan and Padme were friends. Also, Obi-Wan didn't know about Anakin and Padme having a romantic thing for a long time. Anakin and Padme had kept it a secret from everyone, including Obi-Wan.

Obi-Wan lost Satine prior in time to before Anakin and Padme started anything, and whilst Obi-Wan and Padme were close. Padme had other lovers before Anakin. Again as mentioned in the below video. So it's not unreasonable that they might've had something too, if purely friends with benefits.


 

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I thought the complaints was about the duration Padme’s pregancy during ROTS.
That is a serious flaw. Where is it stated btw that the events of ROTS take place over 9 days or even 9 weeks? There's a damn lot that happens in that movie, certain time gaps between events, even from a character standpoint. It surely was like a literal 9 month period. You have Anakin slowly turning away from the Jedi Council, slaughtering Sand People, being away from Padme and her losing touch of him and his personality, like he changed a lot without seeing it occur, Palpatine slowly tweaking and twisting Anakin's mind toward the Dark Side, even when Anakin says to Padme how his powers have grown immensely since training with Palpatine -- we never saw that, so that would entail days/weeks of new training he got -- you have the whole Order 66 taking place, you have Anakin having to be healed by the Empire's medics, creating that suit for him even would've taken months to achieve, you have the Death Star suddenly being half-way in construction at the end, and of course, the most obvious one....Padme announcing she's pregnant start of ROTS and her having babies end of ROTS.
 

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There’s been plenty of complaints about the timing of Rey getting to and from Ach-To, Rose and Finn getting to and from Canto Bight. Just something else to whinge about :p
That's not sketchy.

It's just shit.

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That is a serious flaw. Where is it stated btw that the events of ROTS take place over 9 days or even 9 weeks? There's a damn lot that happens in that movie, certain time gaps between events, even from a character standpoint. It surely was like a literal 9 month period. You have Anakin slowly turning away from the Jedi Council, slaughtering Sand People, being away from Padme and her losing touch of him and his personality, like he changed a lot without seeing it occur, Palpatine slowly tweaking and twisting Anakin's mind toward the Dark Side, even when Anakin says to Padme how his powers have grown immensely since training with Palpatine -- we never saw that, so that would entail days/weeks of new training he got -- you have the whole Order 66 taking place, you have Anakin having to be healed by the Empire's medics, creating that suit for him even would've taken months to achieve, you have the Death Star suddenly being half-way in construction at the end, and of course, the most obvious one....Padme announcing she's pregnant start of ROTS and her having babies end of ROTS.
The sand people incident happened in AOTC, before they were married.

I always had the impression the events of ROTS took place over say a 4-5 month period. Which is quite plausible when you consider Anakin was away at the start (with Obi-Wan) on the frontlines or the clone war.

Quite conceivable she was pregnant for 3-4 months by the time he gets back.

The rest of the movie could easily play out over the next 4-5 months of war dragging on, the political manoeuvring, spying on Palpatine, loss of trust with the council etc.
 

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Quite conceivable she was pregnant for 3-4 months by the time he gets back.

The rest of the movie could easily play out over the next 4-5 months of war dragging on, the political manoeuvring, spying on Palpatine, loss of trust with the council etc.
That's very possible. But no way 9 days or weeks total.
 

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I read an interesting analysis that said so much of the backlash against Luke’s character is based on a fundamental misreading of the end of ROTJ. They see the great Jedi warrior defeating Vader, doing the honorable thing by showing mercy, thus not giving into corruption and redeeming Vader.

When what actually happens is he doesn’t want to fight in the first place, engaging Vader was giving into his anger, when he defeats him he realises his mistake, that the battle itself is what’s corrupting him and winning means giving into the dark side. Luke beating Vader in combat is his weakness and not his strength.

Luke’s arc in the OT ends not only with him refusing to kill the villain but throwing away his weapon rather than battling an even worse villain. That’s why his Force projection against Kylo is great, it shows what he’s learnt. It also explains his decision to kill Kylo, it was giving into fear and why he retreated, the ultimate act of pacifism.

For the record, RJ agreed, saying he found the initial reading baffling.
 

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Fighting bad guys isn’t giving in to the dark side. Otherwise Yoda and Obi-Wan wouldn’t have told Luke to defeat Vader. It’s giving into his emotions and being controlled by anger that leads you to the dark side not the fighting itself. Pacifism doesn’t equal the light side.
 
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I read an interesting analysis that said so much of the backlash against Luke’s character is based on a fundamental misreading of the end of ROTJ. They see the great Jedi warrior defeating Vader, doing the honorable thing by showing mercy, thus not giving into corruption and redeeming Vader.

When what actually happens is he doesn’t want to fight in the first place, engaging Vader was giving into his anger, when he defeats him he realises his mistake, that the battle itself is what’s corrupting him and winning means giving into the dark side. Luke beating Vader in combat is his weakness and not his strength.

Luke’s arc in the OT ends not only with him refusing to kill the villain but throwing away his weapon rather than battling an even worse villain. That’s why his Force projection against Kylo is great, it shows what he’s learnt. It also explains his decision to kill Kylo, it was giving into fear and why he retreated, the ultimate act of pacifism.

For the record, RJ agreed, saying he found the initial reading baffling.
Makes sense that moon faced pussy would like that perspective.

Even if it is clearly wrong.
 

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winning means giving into the dark side.....how wrong this is.
many times the jedi engage in battle against the sith and are not turning into dark siders due to fighting and winning their fights.
that is such an asinine spin, not a shred of truth to it.
also a lack of understanding of the force demonstrated.
 

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I read an interesting analysis that said so much of the backlash against Luke’s character is based on a fundamental misreading of the end of ROTJ. They see the great Jedi warrior defeating Vader, doing the honorable thing by showing mercy, thus not giving into corruption and redeeming Vader.

When what actually happens is he doesn’t want to fight in the first place, engaging Vader was giving into his anger, when he defeats him he realises his mistake, that the battle itself is what’s corrupting him and winning means giving into the dark side. Luke beating Vader in combat is his weakness and not his strength.

Luke’s arc in the OT ends not only with him refusing to kill the villain but throwing away his weapon rather than battling an even worse villain. That’s why his Force projection against Kylo is great, it shows what he’s learnt. It also explains his decision to kill Kylo, it was giving into fear and why he retreated, the ultimate act of pacifism.

For the record, RJ agreed, saying he found the initial reading baffling.
Stupidity as it’s finest with very little awareness of the character arch of Luke

No wonder the ****head pissed all over it in TLJ
 
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