Prediction Starting 22 round 1 2020

Kakkle

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Best ruckmen. Also factually incorrect, he went off injured against the premiers in the second quarter. He got spanked by Gawn, Grundy and Goldstein. He beats up on the Stanley's and English's of the world, but when he comes up against the best, he regularly gets shown up.
Ah, my bad, Still not a spud, nor is Tom Bellchambers a better player by any means.

Also not sure if you're talking about the same Matthew Kreuzer. Ranked 14th for clearances at stoppages per game. With Grundy the only other ruckman infront of him.
 

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TheGrizz

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Best ruckmen. Also factually incorrect, he went off injured against the premiers in the second quarter. He got spanked by Gawn, Grundy and Goldstein. He beats up on the Stanley's and English's of the world, but when he comes up against the best, he regularly gets shown up.
So did just about every other ruck in the comp sans Rowan Marshall.

McEvoy and Bellchambers are in the same tier of rucks around the league. In this tier also would the likes of Lycett, Kreuzer, Nankervis and O'Brien entered this tier by this years end. You can rank those 6 guys from 1-6 however you like and wont get much argument from most people.
 

eth-dog

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Ah, my bad, Still not a spud, nor is Tom Bellchambers a better player by any means.

Also not sure if you're talking about the same Matthew Kreuzer. Ranked 14th for clearances at stoppages per game. With Grundy the only other ruckman infront of him.
I didn't say he was, well, in this particular instance. However the point still stands. He regularly gets spanked by them.

Did he really? Huh, didn't know that. Admittedly I saw a lot less of Carlton this year than previously but he's never really impressed me.
 

eth-dog

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So did just about every other ruck in the comp sans Rowan Marshall.

McEvoy and Bellchambers are in the same tier of rucks around the league. In this tier also would the likes of Lycett, Kreuzer, Nankervis and O'Brien entered this tier by this years end. You can rank those 6 guys from 1-6 however you like and wont get much argument from most people.
I would have Lycett ahead honestly. And Stef Martin would be up there as well.
 

TheGrizz

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I would have Lycett ahead honestly. And Stef Martin would be up there as well.
My tier was a bit arbitrary, if I was to really break it down it would be below

Elite - Gawn, Grundy
Star - Naitinui (only cause of durability is he not a level up) Marshall, Goldstein
Above Average - Witts, Martin, Lycett
Mid tier - Bellchambers, Kreuzer, McEvoy, Nankervis, Sinclair
Below average/cooked - Stanley, Mumford, Jacobs

Upcoming - Darcy, English, O'Brien
 

eth-dog

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My tier was a bit arbitrary, if I was to really break it down it would be below

Elite - Gawn, Grundy
Star - Naitinui (only cause of durability is he not a level up) Marshall, Goldstein
Above Average - Witts, Martin, Lycett
Mid tier - Bellchambers, Kreuzer, McEvoy, Nankervis, Sinclair
Below average/cooked - Stanley, Mumford, Jacobs

Upcoming - Darcy, English, O'Brien
Martin for me is better than Goldstein. Goldy the better season but Martin has been top 4/5 for the past 3 years IMO. I'd have Sinclair in the lower tier as well.
 

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