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  1. JS#35

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    2012 State Team Selection Criteria: The overriding strategy will be to select younger players with talent and potential, players who may catch the eye of AFL recruiters if they perform well at this level, with the points below being further detail:
    1. In the first year of what will be a six year program, prioritise the selection of players who are young and who might be able to come on the six year journey (or at least for say four years)
    2. Select players who possess AFL attributes, and who show a desire and willingness to challenge themselves at a higher level
    3. Only select experienced (say 24 years +) senior players with great character and commitment to the cause, who are extremely fit and who can be part of the journey for at least two or three years

    2013 onwards:
    • Senior state academy members will be prioritised into the initial squad but not guaranteed final selection

    Assistant Coaches:
    • State team coaching selections will favour coaches with potential and long term coaching aspirations, who understand the player development process
    2012 Squad


    Burnie
    Robbie Fox
    Claye Hardy
    Jason Laycock
    Andrew Lee
    Vin Ponsonby
    Nick McKenna
    Brody Mihocek
    Harry Walters

    Clarence
    Ryan Bailey
    Jake Cox
    Aaron French
    Brady Jones
    Cameron Thurley

    Devonport
    Aaron McNab

    Glenorchy
    Jaye Bowden
    Ben Brown
    Ben Reynolds
    Brayden Webb

    Hobart
    Todd Kelly

    Lauderdale
    Alex Hevey
    Alex Hill
    Damon Smith
    Kaine Waller

    Launceston
    Joe Groenewegen
    Jordan Harris
    Majak Miar
    Scott Stephens
    Josh Woolley

    North Hobart
    Tom Allwright
    Julian Dobosz
    Larry Owen

    North Launceston
    Dylan Riley
    Mitch Van Den Berg

    South Launceston
    Jay Blackberry
    Jobi Harper
    Bart McCulloch
    Michael Musicka
    Chris Taylor

    Coaches: Adam Sanders, Anthony Taylor, Darren Winter, Ben Beams, Zane Littlejohn
    Chairman: Nick Probert
    Rehabilitation and fitness: Sam Yee
    Runners: Scott Hawkins, Gavin Cooney
    Head Trainer: Leon Cupit
    Team Manager: Tim Cocker
     

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  2. JS#35

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    The VFL could put out the best of their ressies comp and still win this game
     
  3. Pale

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    This is a joke not picking the best in form players.

    No Standen,Bristow,Finch,Crawford,Wells,Shackleton & no doubt I have missed some.
    Any reason why Thorpe not named.
    It is out & out anti discrimination.

    I know one of the players named is on the verge of getting dropped back to the Colts due to form.
     
  4. Barge

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    It would be interesting if someone who follows the TSL closely could make a squad of those overlooked. Would be quite interesting. Cassidy another who would surely be in a State squad. Derbyshire perhaps too and as the above poster said no doubt countless others.
     
  5. denny44

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    I see Laycock is named, even though he seems to be having that weekend off to rest up!!

    I would imagine he would be hit with some sort of suspension or fine if he pulls out and is not injured?? :p:D
     
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    True, but this is basically our reserves team...

    We will be embarrassed by the VFL.
     
  7. Rowie09

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    Hers my crack at a TSL team made up of players not in the "state" squad.


    B: Fitze, Wells, Praciak
    HB: M. Smith, Drury, Shipton
    C: Bristow, Murphy, Gilmour
    HF: Cassidy, Thorp, Standen
    F: Baldock, Finch, Crawford

    RR: Hills ,Banham, Shackleton

    Int: Derbyshire, Di Ennio, R. Sullivan, Gardham.

    Very rough off the top of my head and would need tweaking. But thats just a sample. I'm sure I've missed blokes too.
     
  8. ROCKY ROAD

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    as posted earlier, AFL Tas have said anyone over 24 would be selected on great character & committment to the cause. They must think these guys lack that. Lucky their job criteria was'nt selected on the same guidelines, none of them would have a job.
     
  9. Saints23

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    Its all sad where the Tsl is heading. This state selection/ u24 academy is another knife in the coffin for Tsl footy, if i was the clubs id not be rushing into a licence agreement. All this is a knee jerk reaction to cover their bases and not let any possible overage draft picks slip through like hall and howe. its pretty embarrasing for them to have a tsl kids comp and academy program that can only generate small draftee numbers each year, so if they can put something in place to lay claim to the odd overage draftee that comes straight from clubs , then they will + of course they then get the draft cash!

    we need a white knight for tassie footy that-
    1- underwrites a 8 team comp consisting of the best senior players and supported by a strong u23 comp which has rules to allow a % of overage senior players to play in the support comp instead of sending them away, leave the 10 by u18 rule to foster youth development but open arms up to 21-23 age and fringe senior players.,that is the only way in little old tassie that the comp will have enough depth to be strong. We are happy for talented kids to play against men at senior level BUT we don't want the same kids playing against some older players at colts level WHY.
    2-has the vision to understand that to encourage more of the best players to play in this elite competition, so that the developing young players can actually develop ,then they must have abc coverage and an adminstration that is not looked at by the public as a joke.
     
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    Why AFL Tas have done this?? they want our comp to be seen as a strong comp, but with this team, they will be thrashed! some AFL clubs have views already that TSL is a weak comp and will not draft from TSL!

    All well and good to promote young kids, but seriously, if half of these older kids were any chance of playing AFL, they would of already gone. Larry Owen played 2 years of mariners and then another 1 year as an overage player, surely someone would have taken him if he was any good?
     
  11. Miffy99

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    Hey Rowie,

    Great side mate. Thats the side that should be playing the state game and maybe tasmanians might start to get a little bit more interested in watching local footy again.

    What an absolute joke AFL tas are and how embarrassing is it for Tasmania in general to field such a side in a Tasmanian state game?

    Shouldn't the map be awarded to inform players in the tas state league regardless of age?? Im shocked.:thumbsdown:
     

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    I saw Derby a few weeks back. Clearly the best forward in the state.

    What's going on here?
     
  13. cooee bulldog

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    Absolute disgrace. Pick the best players in their best positions. State jumpers should be earned.

    What a joke. Do AFL Tas have a right to formulate a selection criteria when the team that is selected is representing us?

    How Matt Drury is not in that team is ridiculous. Can play at either end and has the athletic ability of any other player in Tasmania.
     
  14. Still Kickin

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    I'm with you CB. IF people had any respect at all for AFL tas, i believe this lastest idea that was formulated over a friday afternoon game of golf, is just wrong. State footy is the best of the best, pick them on form and reputation. There will always be a couple who are out of form but are picked because they have been there and done it, that will always happen. How the hell can Shackleton and Derbeshire not be in the squad. If thurls can be picked, and he should! Then so should Shack and Derba! And Kade Munday for that matter. Murphy not in the squad as i believe his suspension carries through that game.
     
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    Looks like afltas have performed there first back flip, now Laycock is playing, I wouldn't have thought he was too committed to 'the cause', or does this only apply to some players. How does the reigning Tassie medalist not get in the squad? I don't see much incentive for players over the age of 24 to play in Tassie, what would be the incentive for the likes of Geappen, Collier, O'Brien and Co to come back to Tassie to play in the TSL (a regional development comp)
     
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    Bullseye :D
     
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    The first tweak would be Gardham- out
     
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    shocking squad. why didn't they organise 2 games? first game an actual proper state game with our best players playing the VFL and then a game with the best under 23s against another team.
     
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    Good idea Benny, I'm sure the existing U23 Ammos rep comp can be expanded... would be a fair test then.
     
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    I think you will find a sum of money has been offered from the powers that be for participation!
     
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    Geez, he's on enough at Dockers! The Burnie salary cap must be more like a salary mountain compared to most other clubs. :)
     
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    The thing that makes me sick is that the players have picked will not stand a chance of developing anything in the skill department! they will barely learn a lesson from the Victorian team; it'd be like trying to teach under 12's how to zone against men!

    What goes down as a youth policy for this 5 yr plan?

    I know that some of the players not selected are still young and will be in their prime over the next 5 year- ie. murphy, bristow, crawford
     
  23. Gibbke

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    It's all very well to form a development squad, but this isn't the Suns we're talking about here, with tons of resources, 22 games a season, and players who have reached the end of their pathway level-wise...1 game a year won't see a performance graph that goes upwards...and the jury is still out as to whether GC and GWS's draft bonanza will actually reap the rewards anyway - is this junior drafting-moulding-building a super side fad really the crock that I personally believe it is...?

    One thing AFL Tas can't be accused of is inconsistency, however. Tasmanian footy somewhere has received an AFL directive to mould itself into a draft source at the expense of all else. The Devils were transformed a few years before they folded, into a team designed to be a draft target. The Devils were then axed to form a state league whose main aim is to create players for drafting. They've just announced an academy designed to extend younger players' preseasons to the point where they are playing higher quality footy around the time the drafting scouts are taking notice (this is a pretty good idea, actually). And with the current expansion trend of mature age rookies, overlooking older players for state duties looks like a tactic designed to expose younger players who might have missed the draft initially in a match that will be watched by scouts (if they are indeed overlooking the TSL because of its standard)...

    So it's a predictable step. Pity it isn't one that will give us a competitive team against a squad full of Podsiadlys! However, while we cringe at the quality of the players missing as listed by other posters above, I recall many of those guys running around and doing well in the 2010 TSL, and still not making the trip up to Southport when we got that caning against Qld. Are the selectors onto something when they make an issue of the players' commitment to the cause...?
     
  24. madmug

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    The public are already voting with their feet. Supporters can get sick of the continual procession of young players with very few staying in the club for very long.
    Most of them are not really ready for senior football. Skinny arms & legs. Getting knocked around. TSL clubs are just becoming meat works. Grow 'em, package 'em up & piss 'em off to either the mainland somewhere or the SFL.
    We use to see a mix of experience & the odd young gun coming into the team to learn the ropes. Some teams in this TSL look like u19 teams of old. How are they going to learn & develop if the clubs are forced to become football kindergartens.
    The SFL & OS will continue to grow & become popular. The last two SFL GF had better crowds than the TSL.
    The TSL will continue on as a farce. Now the State team is a farce too.
     
  25. Miffy99

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    Yeah spot on.:thumbsu:
     
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