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Around the midway point of the season, I thought it would be interesting to compare us in 2025 to that of 2017 after 13 games.

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Some observations:
1. We have near identical results with both seasons going at 9 wins and 4 Losses, with score percentages both 137%.

2. The top 3 back in 2017 after 13 games, were the clear top teams with most wins and highest score percentages. All of these teams ended up playing in the Preliminary Finals (GWS vs Richmond, Crows vs Cats); interestingly Richmond were only 6th at the time, but they won 7 of their last 9 games to charge into 3rd spot on the ladder come Finals.

3. This season, there are 5 teams that appear to be more clear of the others, with the Pies the only standout. Not much difference separating 2nd to 5th spot, with just 1/2 a game apart!

4. In 2017, at the midway mark, only the top 6 have a score percentage > 105%.
In 2025, at the same point, there are 9 teams having score percentage > 105%!
Seems to be a much more even season this year, with more legit contenders.
 

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I heard on a footy analysis but don't know where to find the stat... Our efficiency of possessions per goal is out standing.

Does this contribute to other teams winning a possession count because when we get a chain of posession, it more easily ends in a goal/score.

And if we score more often from out I50s, do we end up with less I50s than the other by virtue of our goal efficiency? Especially if we take intercepts inside their I50.

I don't know where to look for season stats like this.
 

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I'm attaching this to fulfil the stats rule.

I heard on a footy analysis but don't know where to find the stat... Our efficiency of possessions per goal is out standing.

Does this contribute to other teams winning a possession count because when we get a chain of posession, it more easily ends in a goal/score.

And if we score more often from out I50s, do we end up with less I50s than the other by virtue of our goal efficiency? Especially if we take intercepts inside their I50.

I don't know where to look for season stats like this.
Was that from the match against the Lions last round?
If so, their efficiency was lessened due to their many miss-shots for goal.

However, I do feel our efficiency has definitely improved this year. We have more forward power, but more importantly our kicking for goals feel like it’s gone up a notch (except for when Rankine had multiple shanks against the Pies, which was likely the outlier). Even ROB feels more reliable too!
 

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Here, we have a thread discussion for the stats lover. Positives, negatives and neutrals all welcome!

Rules of Stats Club:
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Let the numbers begin!
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oh i love clubs. I wasnt allowed to talk about my last one!
 

I came across this. We rate quite highly on some key stats. What we don't rate highly on is experience. Hopefully this year is providing a lot of XP.
The top 3 teams with the most experience from the site are coincidentally, the top 3 on the AFL ladder. XP is undoubtedly the most important factor why these teams are likely to win close games rather than not.
 
I’ve done some number crunching and I think this is a very interesting stat to focus on - “bad losses” (or losses where we were clear duds on the day).
[Taken from afltables.com]
For the sake of an argument, I’m going to make to the cut off of a “bad loss” as “losing by > 20 points”. How we’ve performed for each season in the first 14 matches:
(* marks the years we’ve ended up playing in Finals)
1991: 5
1992: 7
1993: 3 *
1994: 4
1995: 6
1996: 6
1997: 4 *
1998: 2 *
1999: 5
2000: 4
2001: 4 *
2002: 3 *
2003: 0 *
2004: 5 *
2005: 2 *
2006: 0 *
2007: 3 *
2008: 3 *
2009: 5 *
2010: 7
2011: 9
2012: 3 *
2013: 4
2014: 4
2015: 5 *
2016: 1 *
2017: 3 *
2018: 3
2019: 3
2020: 11
2021: 5
2022: 7
2023: 4
2024: 3
2025: 0

Observations:
- this is only the 3rd year in our club’s history we’ve ever avoided a “bad loss” after 14 games in a season (2003, 2006, 2025).

- for any year we’ve only had 0-2 “bad loss” after 14 games, we’ve ended up in Finals.

- our premiership years and in 2017, we’ve shown that you can have several poor games (3-4), and yet, still can make the Grand Final. The onus being that you need a top-tier score percentage to make up for those poor games.

- in the last 4 seasons, there is almost a linear improvement in lesser and lesser “bad loss” games.

The question is no longer “have we improved?” But the question is now surrounding “how much further can we improve?”
 
First of all, love stats.

One thing I reckon will happen is our % will go higher - we will continue to belt the crap out of poorer teams (5-10 goal wins) and we will play well against good teams (lose by less than 10 points and other than Bulldogs we play all at home) because of our defensive profile now.
The way I look at it is that we’re playing a reasonable brand of footy thus far. It’s now a matter of fine tuning the offence to defence ratio, and stating the obvious, kick for goals when opportunities present.

I feel there’s a heavy assumption on here that Nicks or the team can’t improve further. How we play against the Hawks or the Pies during the latter half of the season might help to see if we have made any further advancements.
 

Interesting stats. I’d love to see our stats from rds 1-4 and after, also when we’ve piled on goals, built a lead and then go into save game mode.

They mentioned this on SEN when the stat was first released. Our ball movement profile was identical to Brisbane in that period.

That said, our ball movement being classified as fast and direct would also indicate that there is little change in ball movement in that "save the game" mode. The difference in that period is we go through phases where we can't win a 50/50 contest.
 
They mentioned this on SEN when the stat was first released. Our ball movement profile was identical to Brisbane in that period.

That said, our ball movement being classified as fast and direct would also indicate that there is little change in ball movement in that "save the game" mode. The difference in that period is we go through phases where we can't win a 50/50 contest.
They said we were more like Geelong. There are 4 measures to it and one is switching and the impact of that on speed of ball movement. The measure where we’d suffer in that save the game mode is the time to dispose of the ball, we’d be holding on to it and we wouldn’t be moving the ball laterally
 

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I'm attaching this to fulfil the stats rule.

I heard on a footy analysis but don't know where to find the stat... Our efficiency of possessions per goal is out standing.

Does this contribute to other teams winning a possession count because when we get a chain of posession, it more easily ends in a goal/score.

And if we score more often from out I50s, do we end up with less I50s than the other by virtue of our goal efficiency? Especially if we take intercepts inside their I50.

I don't know where to look for season stats like this.
Have only just seen this.

I think you're onto something!
 

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