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Thought we could do with a random stat thread, those that are not so obvious:

1. Last time Geelong finished a season in the bottom 4: 1985
2. For the period 2000-2009 (up to Rd 5), Port Adelaide has recorded 128 wins, more than any other side.
3. For the period 2000-2009 (up to Rd 5), Richmond has the lowest Points For and the lowest percentage.
4. Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon have each been Minor Premiers 17 times.
5. The Western Bulldogs are the only team that has recorded a victory in each and every state and territory.

Any comments? Can you come up with 5 of your own?
 

Catsace

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I like this idea for a thread. There would be numerous stats that could be picked out, here is five of my own.

Geelong and Essendon each have won 9 McLelland trophies, the most of any club.

The Bulldogs are the only foundation club of the original 12 to never finish on top of the table.

Geelong has won 34 of their last 42 games against Richmond, commencing in 1984. On only three occasions in that time has a Geelong side boasting a surname of Ablett tasted defeat at the hands of a Tiger outfit.

Hawthorn have defeated Geelong in their last four finals appearances, as have West Coast over Geelong. By contrast, Geelong have beaten the Bulldogs in each of their last six finals meetings since 1976.

Sydney's Grand Final win was actually their first victory on the MCG in a final for over 60 years!
 

Quinz

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1. West Coast are the only team to never be 16th on the ladder at any stage in the year
2. Leigh Matthews polled 202 Brownlow votes but never won the medal, while Brian Gleeson (St Kilda) polled a total of 27 in his career and won the medal in 1957
3. In the last 10 years, 644 players have volled votes in the Brownlow, with Simon Black on 142 and 70 players with 1 vote.
4. 1993 was the highest scoring year of all time, with a competition average of 104.75 points per team per game.
5. Fremantle averages a 25% increase in membership when they make finals (29.22% after 2003, and 21.52% after 2006).
 

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Brad Goodman

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1. In Collingwood's wooden spoon year of 1999, they didn't lose a game by 10 goals or more (larging losing margin was 57 points).
 

UpForGrabs

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1) No Brownlow Blues (part I)

Tony Shaw (COLL) - 50 possessions vs Brisbane, Rd. 5, 1991
Steve Malaxos (WCE) - 48 possessions vs St Kilda, Rd. 22, 1987
Barry Mitchell (SYD) - 46 possessions vs Adelaide, Rd. 10, 1991
Greg Williams (CARL) - 44 possessions vs Melbourne, Rd. 10, 1993
Tony Lockett (StK) - 12 Goals, 3 Behinds vs West Coast, Rd. 9, 1989*

None of these players received any Brownlow Medal votes for their efforts in these games.

*In the umpires' defence. Lockett also gave away five free kicks this game and left part of his elbow in Guy McKenna's face (and got four weeks for it). So they may not have given him votes out of spite.

2) No Brownlow Blues (Barry Mitchell Edition)

Barry Mitchell averaged 31.3 possessions a game (including three 40+ possession games) and kicked 31 goals for Sydney in 1991. He did not receive a single Brownlow Medal vote for the entire season.

3) Umpires ruining the game?

In 1987, there were an average of 28.9 free kicks paid per game.

In 2004, there were an average of 14.8 free kicks paid per game.

(2008 average was 20.2)

4) Can anyone say 'domination'?

The 1899 season wasn't a good one for St Kilda, especially when they were playing Geelong. In Round 14, they travelled down to Corio Oval to take on Geelong. The final score?

Geelong - 16.23 (119)
St Kilda - 0.2 (2)


Three weeks later they travelled down to the bay again. They started the match well, attacking to score the first point of the match. From then on, Geelong scored the next 162. The final score;

Geelong - 23.24 (162)
St Kilda - 0.1 (1)


That means in a four-game stretch, the Cats played the Saints twice and beat them by a combined score of;

Geelong - 39.47 (281)
St Kilda - 0.3 (3)

5) A drought to end all droughts

Charlie Dibbs kicked his first goal of VFL football in his fourth game. He didn't kick another in his remaining 219.
 

Notorious_29

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1) No Brownlow Blues (part I)

Tony Shaw (COLL) - 50 possessions vs Brisbane, Rd. 5, 1991
Steve Malaxos (WCE) - 48 possessions vs St Kilda, Rd. 22, 1987
Barry Mitchell (SYD) - 46 possessions vs Adelaide, Rd. 10, 1987
Greg Williams (CARL) - 44 possessions vs Melbourne, Rd. 10, 1993
Tony Lockett (StK) - 12 Goals, 3 Behinds vs West Coast, Rd. 9, 1989*

None of these players received any Brownlow Medal votes for their efforts in these games.

*In the umpires' defence. Lockett also gave away five free kicks this game and left part of his elbow in Guy McKenna's face (and got four weeks for it). So they may not have given him votes out of spite.
wow some of these are amazing

especially locketts 12 goals. fair enough he wasnt in the umpires good books but 12 goals has to be a BOG effort. im assuming he snuck a few words in agaisnt them too.
 

emuboy

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1. Essendon's 1962 team is the only premiership team to beat every finalist in every meeting (both H & A and finals) in the same year.

2. Despite its terrible record when it played in the league from 1908-14, University is the only team to have never recorded a 100 point loss.

3. Brad Fox is the last person to have played for two clubs in the same season, when he represented Essendon in the first half of 1993 & Richmond in the second half of the year. His former Essendon teamate Ian McMullin the year before played for the Bombers in their Round 4, 1992 game against Collingwood, but when these teams met again in Round 19 1992 he represented Magpies, having switched teams in the now-defunct mid season draft.

4. The record for the biggest turnaround between two teams meeting the same year is 214 points between Geelong & Adelaide in 1992. Geelong demolished Adelaide by 123 points in Round 8 1992 at Kardinia Park, but the Round 23 rematch resulted in the Crows thrashing the Cats by 91 points at Football Park in Adelaide.

5. Darren Holmes played in five successive wooden spoon teams, playing for Sydney in 1992, 93 & 94 and then Fitzroy in 1995 & 96.
 

Mr. Blonde

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5. Darren Holmes played in five successive wooden spoon teams, playing for Sydney in 1992, 93 & 94 and then Fitzroy in 1995 & 96.
Wasn't this the guy who caught the pig at the SCG when the Swans played St Kilda?
 

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3. Brad Fox is the last person to have played for two clubs in the same season, when he represented Essendon in the first half of 1993 & Richmond in the second half of the year.
According to the page below, Brad didn't actually play a single game for Essendon in 1993 even though he may have been a listed player:

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brad_Fox.html

His former Essendon teamate Ian McMullin the year before played for the Bombers in their Round 4, 1992 game against Collingwood, but when these teams met again in Round 19 1992 he represented Magpies, having switched teams in the now-defunct mid season draft.
Interesting to note that those were consecutive games for Ian:

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/I/Ian_McMullin.html
 

afl99

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David O'hallarin's last 2 games of league football were loosing grand finals in 1984 and 1985

Round 10 1998 Dogs vs WCE at the WACCA... one of the goal umpires broke the record for signalling the first 16 goals of the game

1976 magpies won the wooden spoon...1977 magpies finished on top

Demons back pocket player Neil Crompten kicked his only goal for the season to put the demons infront agianst the magpies with only seconds to play in the 1964 Grand Final

In round 18 2004...Kangaroos lead at half time with the score of 1.8 against adelaide's 0.10
 

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Port's 5.6.36 against St Kilda last week was their 2nd lowest score ever.

Of Port's 15 lowest scores, only 1 has resulted in a win.

And that was achieved with their lowest ever score:

Code:
[U]Round: 11   Venue: Football Park    Date: 12-Jun-1999 8:40 PM[/U]

[B]Port Adelaide[/B]  2.2  3.5  4.7  [B]4. 8  32[/B]
[B]Richmond[/B]       0.1  1.4  1.7  [B]3.12  30[/B]
 

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1. If Terry Wallace survives until Round 22, he will join Bill Stephen in holding an unenviable coaching record.

258 games coached, no grand finals.

Apart from Bill and Terry, the top 33 coaches (by games coached) have all made at least one Grand Final.

PS: Wallace needs a 13-9 season this year for a career win% of exactly 50.0%.

2. Mick Malthouse has coached 330 wins. He requires 7 more to move to 4th on that list: McHale (466), Sheedy (386), Jeans (357), Hafey (336).

3. Malthouse however is way out in front in terms of losses coached (259). Sheedy had 242 while McHale had 237. Terry Wallace (122) is the only current coach within 150 of Mick.

4. All bar 1 of the top 13 coaches (by games coached) have won at least 3 premierships. The exception is Mick Malthouse.

5. Kevin Murray coached Fitzroy for 34 games in 1963 and 1964 for 0 wins, 34 losses.
 

Dan26

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1. Essendon's 1962 team is the only premiership team to beat every finalist in every meeting (both H & A and finals) in the same year.
Incorrect.

Carlton beat every other finalist in 1995, in both home and away and finals. The Blues only two losses were against non-finalists, Sydney and St.Kilda.
 

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En Route to the flag in 1992, West Coast would finish with a record of 15 wins, 1 draw and six losses in the H&A season.

Of the games they didn't win, they would;

1) Be beaten by the Sydney Swans (who would win only three games for the season)
2) Draw with the Brisbane Bears (who would win only four games for the season)
3) Lose to Fitzroy (9 wins)
4) Score only 3.5 (23) in a loss to Footscray and only 3.11 (29) in a loss to St Kilda
5) Lose to Geelong (by 24 pts) and Collingwood (by 1pt) at home.

Before sweeping Hawthorn and Geelong (twice) in the finals series to win the Premiership.
 

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After 6 rounds in 2009:

1. no team has won every 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th quarter
2. no team has lost every 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th quarter
3. no team has lost every 1st or 2nd half
4. Geelong has won every 1st half, St Kilda has won every 2nd half
5. while Fevola missed a shot at goal to defeat Hawthorn, Carlton has the best scoring accuracy of all clubs
 

RogersResults

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1. Essendon have not won a round 7 clash with Hawthorn since 1938.
2. Collingwood have played Brisbane, Fremantle and West Coast only once in round 7 and Hawthorn only twice. They have lost all 5 matches.
3. Melbourne have played Adelaide and Port Adelaide only once in round 7 and Brisbane and St Kilda only twice. They have won all 6 matches.
4. Melbourne and Richmond have met 7 times in round 7. Richmond has won 7 times.
5. Richmond and Geelong have met 11 times in round 7. The only match Geelong has won was round 7, 1931 the year Geelong also defeated Richmond in the Grand Final.



More of this:
http://www.rogersresults.110mb.com/Rogers_Results/Rounds/Rounds.htm
 

tribey

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Essendon and South Melbourne/Sydney are the only two clubs in VFL/AFL history to have registered at least one victory at every single venue they've played for premiership points/finals at.

Port Adelaide (Manuka Oval 0-3), Footscray/Western Bulldogs (Yallourn 0-1) and West Coast (North Hobart Oval 0-1) remain one victory at a single venue away from joining them - but with only Port feasibly a chance to ever do so in future.
 

RogersResults

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1: From round 1, 1934 to round 3, 1992 Essendon was never last on the ladder after a completed round.

2: Since round 18, 1973 every current team has been on the bottom of the ladder in the second half of the season except Geelong and Adelaide.

3: Since 1987 Geelong is the only team never to have finished the season below 12th on the ladder.

4: Since round 19, 1992, every current team has been on top of the ladder in the second half of the season at least once except Collingwood and Fremantle.

5: The last time 2008 premiers, Hawthorn was on top of the ladder in the second half of the season was round 18, 1993.

more like this here:
http://www.rogersresults.110mb.com/Rogers_Results/Ladders/ladders.htm.
 

tribey

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1. West Coast are the only team to never be 16th on the ladder at any stage in the year.
2: Since round 18, 1973 every current team has been on the bottom of the ladder in the second half of the season except Geelong and Adelaide.
Which is correct gents?
 

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