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Highest placing in Brownlow without being All-Australian, 1991-present:

Year|Player|Club|Rank|Votes
\1991|Hudson, Paul|Ha|=5th|17
\|Knights, Matthew|Ri||
\|McLean, Michael|Br||
\1992|Carey, Wayne|NM|=5th|14
\1993|Dunstall, Jason|Ha|=4th|16
\1994|Schwass, Wayne|NM|4th|19
\1995|Hocking, Garry|Ge|3rd|17
\1996|Grant, Chris|WB|=4th|20
\1997|Sholl, Brad|Ge|7th|16
\1998|Brown, Fraser|Ca|=8th|18
\1999|Bradley, Craig|Ca|6th|18
\2000|Woewodin, Shane|Me|1st|24
\2001|Francou, Josh|PA|=3rd|19
\2002|Headland, Des|Br|=6th|16
\|Johnstone, Travis|Me||
\|McLeod, Andrew|Ad||
\|Williams, Paul|Sy||
\2003|Cousins, Ben|WC|=4th|21
\|Crawford, Shane|Ha||
\2004|Yze, Adem|Me|12th|14
\2005|Kerr, Daniel|WC|2nd|19
\2006|Kerr, Daniel|WC|3rd|22
\2007|Black, Simon|Br|=2nd|22
\2008|Black, Simon|Br|2nd|23
\2009|Black, Simon|Br|=4th|19
\2010|Boyd, Matthew|WB|=6th|20
\2011|Moloney, Brent|Me|=9th|19
\|Priddis, Matt|WC||
\2012|Mitchell, Sam|Ha|=2nd|26
\2013|Johnson, Steve|Ge|4th|25
\2014|Priddis, Matt|WC|1st|26
\2015|Kennedy, Josh P.|Sy|4th|25
\2016|Gaff, Andrew|WC|=5th|21
\|Treloar, Adam|Co||
 
Since 1996, players finishing higher in the Brownlow count than in their own club's b&f:

Year|Player|Club|Br Rank|Votes|B&F Rank
\2013|Johnson, Steve|Ge|4th|25|13th
\2014|Johnson, Steve|Ge|9th|19|17th
\2005|Kerr, Daniel|WC|2nd|19|8th
\2008|Goodes, Adam|Sy|5th|21|> top 10
\2002|Headland, Des|Br|=6th|16|10th
\2001|Akermanis, Jason|Br|1st|23|4th
\2015|Fyfe, Nathan|Fr|1st|31|4th
\2007|Kerr, Daniel|WC|2nd|22|5th
\2007|Black, Simon|Br|2nd|22|=5th
\2006|Kerr, Daniel|WC|3rd|22|6th
\2002|Yze, Adem|Me|=3rd|17|6th
\2001|Francou, Josh|PA|=3rd|19|6th
\1996|McKernan, Corey|NM|=1st|21|3rd
\2009|Hayes, Lenny|St|3rd|20|5th
\1997|Grant, Chris|WB|1st|27|2nd
\2007|Bartel, Jimmy|Ge|1st|29|2nd
\2008|Cooney, Adam|WB|1st|24|2nd
\2011|Swan, Dane|Co|1st|34|2nd
\2014|Priddis, Matt|WC|1st|26|2nd
\2002|Francou, Josh|PA|2nd|21|=3rd
\2004|Cornes, Chad|PA|3rd|22|4th
\2005|Dal Santo, Nick|St|3rd|18|4th
\2014|Ablett junior, Gary|GC|=3rd|22|4th
\2006|Brown, Jonathan|Br|=10th|13|11th
 

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Nat Fyfe's Bronwlow votes per game dropped below Haydn Bunton's, but remained above 1.0:
1.0495 (votes per game) - Nat Fyfe - 106 votes from 101 H&A games [to end of 2015]
1.0427 - Haydn Bunton - 122 votes from 117 H&A games
1.0377 - Nat Fyfe - 110 votes from 106 H&A games [to end of 2016]

Some movement in the tables below with Gary Ablett Jr (1,1,1,3 for 6 votes) and Sam Mitchell (1,2,1,3,2,2,2,3 for 16 votes):

Most Brownlow Medal votes:
246 - G Dempsey
220 - G Ablett Jr (from 3rd to =2nd), S Mitchell (from 5th to =2nd)
215 - R Harvey
210 - C Judd
202 - L Matthews

Most Brownlow Medal votes (adjusted for 1/2 of double vote years):
220 - G Ablett Jr (from 3rd to =1st), S Mitchell (from 5th to =1st)
218.5 - G Dempsey
215 - R Harvey
210 - C Judd

Most Brownlow Medal 3-votes:
47 - G Ablett Jr (from =1st to 1st)
46 - Judd
45 - Dempsey, R Harvey
44 - S Mitchell

Most Brownlow Medal 1-votes:
33 - G Ablett Jr (from =2nd to 1st)
32 - R Harvey, S Mitchell

Most games polling votes:
106 - G Dempsey
104 - S Mitchell (from 4th to 2nd)
103 - G Ablett Jr
101 - R Harvey
91 - C Judd
 
Most H&A games played:

408 - B Harvey
387 - M Tuck
377 - D Fletcher
376 - K Bartlett
366 - R Harvey
358 - S Madden
355 - B Quinlan
351 - C Bradley
 
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Most Brownlow votes by teammates:
58 (Collingwood 2011) - 34 D Swan, 24 S Pendlebury
53 (Geelong 2016) - 35 P Dangerfield, 18 J Selwood
52 (Geelong 2013) - 27 J Selwood, 25 S Johnson
50 (Hawthorn 2011) - 30 S Mitchell, 20 L Franklin
50 (Fremantle 2015) - 31 N Fyfe, 19 D Mundy

Under the 1976-77 double vote rules:
75 (Collingwood 1977) - 41 B Picken, 34 L Thompson
73 (South Melb 1977) - 59 G Teasdale, 14 T O'Neill
68 (Hawthorn 1976) - 45 P Knights, 23 L Matthews
66 (Essendon 1976) - 48 G Moss, 18 R Andrews
65 (Richmond 1977) - 45 K Bartlett, 20 B Wood
54 (Richmond 1976) - 36 F Bourke, 18 K Sheedy
54 (Hawthorn 1977) - 34 L Matthews, 20 M Tuck
50 (Fitzroy 1976) - 26 R Alexander, 24 G Wilson
 
The Bulldogs have led at quarter time in every grand final they have played.

Prior to 2016, the Bulldogs have led at half time in every grand final they have played.

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Rourke said:
Most games without a kidney? When did Newman lose his?
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Think Newman lost his in the '67 season, his first year was '64 and he played until 1980. I'd hazard a guess that he'd have played more games than Tom, although at the time he injured his in '06 he had only played a handful of games. He missed almost all of '07 before playing in the Ressies GF that season.
 
Combined H&A wins by grand finalists in the final eight era:

39.0 - GE 19 CO 20 (2011)
38.0 - HW 17 GE 21 (2008); GE 18 SK 20 (2009)
36.0 - CA 20 GE 16 (1995)
35.5 - HW 19 FR 16.5 (2013)
35.0 - ES 21 ME 14 (2000)
34.0 - BL 17 ES 17 (2001); HW 17 SY 17 (2014)
33.0 - PA 17 BL 16 (2004); GE 18 PA 15 (2007); CO 17.5 SK 15.5 (2010); SY 16 HW 17 (2012)
32.5 - NM 16 SY 16.5 (1996); HW 16 WC 16.5 (2015)
32.0 - SY 15 WC 17 (2005); SY 17 WB 15 (2016)
31.0 - WC 17 SY 14 (2006)
30.0 - BL 17 CO 13 (2002)
29.5 - BL 14.5 CO 15 (2003)
29.0 - WC 16 GE 13 (1994); AD 13 NM 16 (1998); NM 17 CA 12 (1999)
28.0 - AD 13 SK 15 (1997)
 
H&A wins by premiers in the final eight era:

21.0 - 2000
20.0 - 1995
19.0 - 2011, 2013
18.0 - 2007, 2009
17.5 - 2010
17.0 - 1999, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2014
16.0 - 1994, 1996, 2012, 2015
15.0 - 2005 , 2016
14.5 - 2003
13.0 - 1997, 1998

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Interesting stat about kicks after the siren:

In the history of round 20, 4 players have wasted the opportunity to win their team a game after the final siren, 0 players have succeeded.
All 4 have been surprisingly recent also.

The players to have missed in round 20 are:
Matthew Egan vs Melbourne, 2005
Nick Riewoldt vs Essendon, 2009
Adam Goodes vs Essendon, 2011
David Mundy vs Geelong, 2014

Special mentions to other recent kicks also: Hayden Ballantyne vs West Coast R18 2011, Tom Lynch vs Melbourne R19 2016,
 
H&A wins by grand final losers in the final eight era:

21.0 - 2008
20.0 - 2009, 2011
17.0 - 2001, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2016
16.5 - 1996, 2013, 2015
16.0 - 1995, 1998, 2004
15.5 - 2010
15.0 - 1997, 2003, 2007
14.0 - 2000, 2006
13.0 - 1994, 2002
12.0 - 1999

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Rourke said:
Most games without a kidney? When did Newman lose his?
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Catsace said:
Think Newman lost his in the '67 season, his first year was '64 and he played until 1980. I'd hazard a guess that he'd have played more games than Tom, although at the time he injured his in '06 he had only played a handful of games. He missed almost all of '07 before playing in the Ressies GF that season.
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This is an extract from Sam Newman's biography in the 1978 publication "Victorian Australian Rules Superstars"

"He forced his way into the Geelong side as a regular and looked like being one of Geelong's greatest ever ruckmen until he tragically injured his back in the 1967 first semi final against Collingwood. Newman clutched his right side as he went down and it was later discovered that he had injured a kidney. He was rushed to hospital where part of his kidney was removed."

"The Encyclopaedia of AFL Footballers" also states that Newman received his kidney injury during the 1967 first semi.
From that point onwards Newman played a further 233 games.
 
Until 1974, Hawthorn and North Melbourne had never played a finals match, but in the decade from 1974 to 1983 inclusive the Hawks and Kangaroos played 12 finals against each other, including 3 Grand Finals.

Until they played off in the 1983 Grand Final, Hawthorn and Essendon had never met in a finals game, and the Hawks and Bombers would contest the 1984 and 1985 Grand Finals too.
 
This is quite a unique grand final, even without looking deeply into history books.
I am sure we never had the two grand finalist play every week of the finals series.

Also both teams recently lost games and neither on a big winning streak.
Dogs have only won 3 in a row, Swans have only won 2 in a row.
Not sure the last time in league history that of the two grand final teams neither team had a winning streak beyond 3 at the time.
Highlights this season in general has been one of the weirdest in league history.
Are we about to see this first grand final go into extra time scenario ?
 
new stat *Paul*

Grand Final - First Game Score (2008- )
Earliest - 0m 11s (WC 2015 - rushed behind)
Latest - 9m 25s (SY 2016 - Keiren Jack behind)

Grand Final - First Game Goal (2008- )
Earliest - 0m 15s (GE 2011 - Travis Varcoe)
Latest - 12m 14s (SY 2016 - Luke Parker)

Grand Final - First Team Score (2008- )
Earliest - 0m 11s (WC 2015 - rushed behind)
Latest - 19m 54s (WB 2016 - Zaine Cordy goal)

Grand Final - First Team Goal (2008- )
Earliest - 0m 15s (GE 2011 - Travis Varcoe)
Latest - 45m 12s (SK 2010 - Brendan Goddard)*

*grand final replay
 
99981 - highest crowd for a Bulldogs win (GF 2016 v Sydney)

Previous records:
87823 - SF 2016 v Hawthorn
86411 - SF 1961 v St Kilda
 
Most goals in finals:
111 - Coventry (31 finals; 3.58 goals per final)
78 - Dunstall (21; 3.71)
74 - Titus (24; 3.08)
72 - Matthews (29; 2.48)
65 - Stephen Kernahan (18; 3.61), Alastair Lynch (20; 3.25), Lance Franklin (21; 3.10)
64 - Doug Wade (18; 3.56), Gary Ablett Sr (16; 4.00)
62 - Dick Lee (22;2.82), Jack Mueller (18; 3.44), Kevin Bartlett (27; 2.30), Peter Sumich (19; 3.26)
60 - Wayne Carey (23; 2.61), Billy Brownless (17; 3.53)

I'd say Lance Franklin, in finals, is not doing his job for Sydney. I don't care how many score involvements he has during the year, he needs to kick goals, and getting up to the wing and half-back won't win premierships for Sydney. His 3.10 average is nothing special for someone of his talent.
 
4th last finals win:

2016 - WB (3 weeks ago) :thumbsu:

2014 - HA, NM, SY
2012 - FR
2011 - GE, WC
2010 - CO
2009 - AD, SK
2007 - PA
2003 - BL
2001 - ES
2000 - ME, CA

1980 - RI :p
1979 - FI
 
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according to the odds and also the consensus, Dogs had 4 underdog victories in consecutive weeks, a feat as far as my numbers show has never happened in the last 13 seasons.
anyone have any suggestions for other cases where this might have happened? after a 3rd win the team would generally be in quite good form and probably favoured to win in the 4th match, very unique set of circumstances here.

In reply to Ron The Bear suggestion,
Tigers were awfully small favourites in the first game of that 4 game win streak in 2010, but that looks like its the closest example then
 
Most H&A rounds outside top 4 by eventual premier:
18 - AD (1998)
14 - BL (2001), SY (2005)
12 - WB (2016)

Most H&A rounds outside top 5 by eventual premier:
14 - AD (1998)
11 - BL (2001)
10 - SY (2005), WB (2016)

Most H&A rounds outside top 6 by eventual premier:
12 - AD (1998)
9 - BL (2001)
7 - WB (2016)
 
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