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Barlow's combined disposals for his first two games (67) being a record must rate a mention - he's smashed it by 5. His total second game tally (34) is also record equalling.

Look's a good chance to beat the three game record as well (89).

Top 5 combined disposals in first two games:
Michael Barlow 67
Dean Greig 62
David Marshall 62
Gilbert McAdam 61
Beau Muston 57
 
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Ed_Gein said:
If I'm not mistaken I think it means Geelong and dogs have never lost a game with a score like 9.0 to 7.14 for example. (scored 2 extra goals but still lost)

the swans Re the opposite, they've never won a game scoring 2 less goals than the opposition, relying on behinds to get over the line.
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Here is a table that provides a clue as to why Footscray have never scored two more goals than their opponents but still lost (compare it with the overall totals for most behinds).

Since 1902, the fewest behinds scored by any of the twenty teams that have won a match scoring two fewer goals in seventeen, by Richmond against St. Kilda in the opening round of 1936. One can see from the linked table that there is very little room between the most behinds against Footscray and that total.
 
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Today was the first time Melbourne has won after being on one goal at half-time since R19, 1989 vs Sydney at the MCG.

That was the 16th time it has been done in our history, but only the fourth since 1915.
 
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Supermercado said:
Today was the first time Melbourne has won after being on one goal at half-time since R19, 1989 vs Sydney at the MCG.

That was the 16th time it has been done in our history, but only the fourth since 1915.
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Also a bit more obscure again:

First time Melbourne has won a match where they only scored 1 goal to 1/2 time and then kept their opponent to 1 goal in the second half since round 7 1903 (Melbourne 4.8 v Carlton 1.2.)


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red+black said:
60 - the number of rounds (exc. Round 1) that Geelong have been top 4.

Could this streak end today? It will with a loss to Hawthorn. Even with a small win (<10), Geelong may only climb to 5th.
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This record is now finished with Geelong dropping to 6th.

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1. Fremantle have never won the first three games of the year.
2. Fremantle has only once won three of the first four games of the year.
3. Geelong has never won the first three games of the year in three consecutive seasons.
4. St Kilda have only once won the first three games of the year in consecutive seasons.
5. Over the last 5 years, for the first 3 rounds, Richmond are 1-13. That's better than Melbourne who are 0-14!!!
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1. Best start to a season (3-0) for Fremantle.
2. Make that twice now, regardless of next week's result.
3. Geelong has still never started three consecutive seasons 3-0.
4. Make that twice now.
5. And now Richmond and Melbourne are both 1-14 for the first 3 rounds over the last 5 years, and will play off against each other this week. When was the last time Melbourne entered a game as big a favourite as they will next week?

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Essendon have been 0-3 just once in their history (1967) when they went 0-5.

So odds favour Essendon defeating Carlton next week :p

Even after a bad start to 1967, Essendon made the grand final in 1968 :thumbsu:
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And Essendon avoid equaling their worst start to a season.
 
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5 Obscure Stats from Round 3 2010

1) Last time Collingwood had a score of 4 goals for the match after scoring 3 of them in 1 quarter was round 5 1960, 4.13-37 v St Kilda 5.9-39. ( Collingwood scored 3 goals in the 2nd quarter in that match and 1 in the 3rd.)

2) 28 pts:3rd time St Kilda has defeated Collingwood by the same margin in consecutive matches. (Having defeated them by that margin in the 2009 Qualifying Final.) Previous: 38pts round 16 1913 and round 6 1914: 41 pts round 15 1907 and round 7 1908.


3) 3rd time in the last 36 matches that Sydney/SM have won 2 consecutive matches.

4) Up till 3/4 time the closest match between WB/Footscray and Hawthorn since round 9 1981 which had quarter margins up to 3/4 time of 5,3 and 1. Hawthorn won 11.18-84 to 10.14-74

5) Geelong's highest losing score since 20.7-127 v Melbourne round 15 1993.


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In Geelong's first 4 matches, the team in front at 3/4 time has lost the match. Anyone know the record for the most amount of matches in a row a team has played in where the above has occured??
 
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arads said:
In Geelong's first 4 matches, the team in front at 3/4 time has lost the match. Anyone know the record for the most amount of matches in a row a team has played in where the above has occured??
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Geelong has played 3 premiership matches in 2010, not 4.
 
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RogersResults said:
Also a bit more obscure again:

First time Melbourne has won a match where they only scored 1 goal to 1/2 time and then kept their opponent to 1 goal in the second half since round 7 1903 (Melbourne 4.8 v Carlton 1.2.)


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I love it. It's like Sportscenter when they tell you that the New York Mets have never beaten the Minnesota Twins outside in June when it was Sunny for the three days before the game.
 
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Supermercado said:
I love it. It's like Sportscenter when they tell you that the New York Mets have never beaten the Minnesota Twins outside in June when it was Sunny for the three days before the game.
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But if there's a northerly > 20 knots on the second day, put the house on the Mets.
 
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Round 4:

1) From 1983 to 1993, Essendon won all but 1 round 4 match (1992 v Collingwood), after 1993 they didn't win in round 4 again until 2000.

2) Carlton have won the most consecutive round 4 matches. 10 – 1979-88.

3) Hawthorn were winless in their first 16 round 4 matches. (They drew once.)

4) Richmond have only won consecutive round 4's once since 1986 - (2005-2006.)

5) Since 1988 West Coast has played only 1 round 4 match in Victoria - 2002 v Melbourne at Princes Park.


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Interesting note about Hawthorn not winning in Round 4 until 1943. Their draw with Fitzroy in Round 4, 1939, is especially noteworthy because:
  1. it was the only draw in 631 games from Round 4, 1937 to Round 1, 1943
  2. Although Hawthorn have played by far the fewest draws of long-established V/AFL clubs, they also played in the only draw of the one longer period with only one draw from Round 2, 1982 to Round 5, 1987
Five other noteworthy facts:
  • the round with most draws is Round 2, with twelve
  • of the eighteen rounds that have been consistently played since 1908 (except for war years and 1925), Round 17 has fewest draws with only two, viz:
    • Essendon v Fitzroy in 1921
    • Collingwood v North Melbourne in 1988
  • There has been no draw in Round 13 since 1957, and before that 1926
  • of the ten highest-scoring home and away games, all but two occurred in Round 5, 6, or 7
  • the only rounds on which the 300-point aggregate has not been reached are
    1. Round 4
    2. Round 8
    3. Round 19
 

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red+black said:
4. Round 23 (best: 247)
5. Round 24 (best: 288)
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I assumed you would realise that Rounds 23 and 24, which existed only in 1991, 1992 and 1994, were not being considered. Sorry if I forgot to state that!

Round 19 is really surprising in that the record is 283 points in 1969 between Richmond and Carlton. It is true that in several years during the period when high aggregates were made, such as 1976, 1978, 1979, 1985, 1991, 1992 and to some extent 1987 and 1989, Round 19 was played in wet conditions where an aggregate of 283 points would be implausible.
 
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Having already posted 5 on another page, I'll simply add this one:

The 21st century was 2,463 days old before a Victorian club won a premiership, with Geelong beating Port Adelaide on September 29, 2007.
 
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Round 4 2010 Trivia:

3rd time that Essendon has scored at least 5 goals in the first and last quarters but only 1 in between. Previous: 7,1,0,5 round 7 1980 (lost to Geelong.)


First time Sydney/SM has won 3 consecutive matches by 40 pts or more since rounds 21,22 2002 - round 1 2003 and first time in one season since 1996.


2.11: First time Collingwood has scored fewer than 3 goals and more than 10 behinds in a 3rd quarter. (They scored 2.13 in the last quarter round 8 1902 v Sydney/SM.)


First time Melbourne has scored 8 goals in the first quarter and none in the 2nd.


St Kilda v Fremantle: Only 1 of 7 matches where the margins at the end of the first 3 quarters were 1 or fewer points. Closest final margin in those matches was 5 pts round 4 2000, Collingwood 15.16 v Sydney/SM 15.11.


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No VFL/AFL Grand Final-winning team has ever played together again after winning the premiership.
 
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  1. Hawthorn lost to Melbourne in 1928 scoring 14.17 (101) which was only their second century score - then never had a higher losing score agains the Demons until Tuck's 404th in 1990
  2. Against South Melbourne in the first match of a very strange streak from Rounds 15 to 19 in 1979, Melbourne scored 19.20 (134) to 20.5 (125) in the last three quarters at a time when the highest score by a team winning a full match with fewer goals was 18.16 (124)
  3. The most matches since 1919 without scoring a century is 96 by St. Kilda from Round 7, 1951 to Round 11, 1956 - after which the Saints kicked the only 20-goal score of the year.
  4. The only score of a double century in three consecutive quarters in 31.16 (202) in the last three quarters by Sydney against Essendon in 1987
  5. In 1976, the Round 21 match between Fitzroy and Footscray produced the two lowest scores of the season in the one game.
 

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Geelong had an insanely inaccurate season in 1898. In their 17 games, they kicked more behinds than goals 16 times- with the "lowlight" being 3.12.30 in a one-point win over Carlton.

Their season record was 112.183.855, or 38% accuracy.
 
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Most players used in first four rounds of a season:

Pl Cb Year Finish
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35 St 1910 10th of 10
33 St 1898 .8th of .8
33 NM 1929 12th of 12
33 Sy 1954 10th of 12
33 WB 1981 11th of 12
33 NM 1988 11th of 14
33 St 1995 14th of 16
32 Co 1943 10th of 11
32 Sy 1946 .7th of 12
32 St 1956 11th of 12
32 Sy 1958 .9th of 12
32 Ge 1972 10th of 12
32 Co 1976 12th of 12
32 Fi 1980 12th of 12
32 NM 1984 11th of 12
32 Co 1995 10th of 16
32 Es 2005 13th of 16
32 Me 2007 14th of 16
32 Ri 2010 ?
 
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Longest careers of players never held goalless in consecutive matches:

Gms Player . . . . .Club(s)
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281 Tony Lockett . .St,Sy
230 Dick Lee . . . .Co
170 Jack Moriarty . Fi
158 Bob Pratt . . . Sy
153 Cliff Rankin . .Ge
147 Horrie Clover . Ca
129 Peter Hudson . .Ha
124 Ted Freyer . . .Es
121 Sel Murray . . .NM
113 Tom Reynolds . .Es,St
113 Bob C.Johnson . Me
111 Des Fothergill .Co
100 Phil Carman . . Co,Me,Es,NM
.98 John Coleman . .Es
.94 Bill D.Young . .St
.82 Mark Jackson . .Me,St,Ge
.71 Harvey Dunn snr Ca
.70 Darren Wheildon Fi
.65 Peter Bosustow .Ca

Current: 38 - John Anthony, 36 - Robbie Gray, Ben McKinley
 
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Generalissimo said:
Geelong had an insanely inaccurate season in 1898. In their 17 games, they kicked more behinds than goals 16 times- with the "lowlight" being 3.12.30 in a one-point win over Carlton.

Their season record was 112.183.855, or 38% accuracy.
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Fitzroy in their premiership year of 1913 scored more behinds than goals in all of their 21 matches for the year. No other team has scored more behinds than goals in every match of their season. (Accuracy 39.5%)

Also in 1898 Sth Melbourne scored more behinds than goals in 16 of 17 matches played with a worse accuracy than Geelong.
75.136 for 35.5% accuracy.

In 1899 Melbourne scored more behinds than goals in 16 out of 17 matches and had an even worse accuracy 79.149 - 34.4%.

In more recent times Collingwood scored more behinds in 20 of their 22 matches in 1952. (Accuracy 42.2%)

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  1. North Melbourne and Sydney in Round 6, 1991 (first half) are the only teams to score 200 aggregate points in a half
  2. Billy Brownless' behind that gave Geelong the record score at Carrara in 1992 also gave the match the record second half aggregate by one point, beating North Melbourne versus Hawthorn, Round 5, 1988
  3. No match ranks among the top twenty aggregate scores for both halves
  4. The highest aggregate by a game not in the top twenty for either half is 323 points by Melbourne against North Melbourne in Round 7 of 1982.
    • 34th highest second half aggregate score
    • 53rd highest first half aggregate score
  5. The first first-half aggregate of 150 points occurred in the Essendon versus Footscray game in the opening round of 1934
 
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1) From 1949 to 1958 Essendon played in 6 finals series including 4 Grand Finals and won 2 Premierships. However they only won 2 of 10 round 6 matches played. 1952 (finished 8th) and 1953 (finished 4th).

2) Since 2001 Adelaide, Brisbane and Essendon are the only teams not to have had a scoreless quarter.

3) Adelaide's average score of 61 pts from the first 5 matches of 2010 is the lowest since Fitzroy's 56 pts average in 1967. (Adelaide's average in the last 5 matches of 2009 was 127 pts.)

4) Round 5's match against St Kilda is the only match Port Adelaide has won where they scored no goals in the first quarter and their opponent scored none in the last.

5) Carlton's round 5 victory over Geelong was the first time Carlton has won consecutive matches in all 4 quarters since 1998, round 21 v Collingwood - round 22 v Port Adelaide.

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