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wagstaff said:
Craig Hutchison said on Footy Classified last night that this season is the first time in history that after Round 4 all teams have been beaten.

Presuming he means VFL/AFL history, that is totally incorrect as in 1989, all sides had been beaten after just 3 rounds!
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He got that horribly wrong, no matter how you look at it! 1997 was the last time it happened from what I can see.
 
Carlton host West Coast at the MCG today.

West Coast's last H&A win over Carlton at the MCG: R17, 2016
Carlton's last H&A win over West Coast at the MCG: never
West Coast record: L*W - *final

Collingwood host West Coast at the MCG in R17.

Collingwood's last H&A win over West Coast at the MCG: R19, 2016
West Coast's last H&A win over Collingwood at the MCG: R2, 1995
West Coast record: LWLLLLL*LL*LLL - *final
 
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Lowest crowd to witness a draw today?
 
Carlton start and finish each year very poorly.

In the last 3 seasons, Carlton have gone 1-13, 1-12 and now 1-14. I hope the supporters are patient.
 
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ThePezDispenser said:
Lowest crowd to witness a draw today?
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Thanks to the attendance figures on AFL Tables (from 1921 onwards) yesterday's drawn game comes in as the 25th lowest crowd at a drawn game.

crowd | game | venue | opponents
\3,500|round 1, 1921|East Melbourne|Essendon vs Melbourne
\4,500|round 13, 1926|Glenferrie|Hawthorn vs North Melbourne
\5,000|round 2, 1943|Arden Street|North Melbourne vs St Kilda
\6,000|round 15, 1944|Glenferrie|Hawthorn vs St Kilda
\6,000|round 17, 1921|East Melbourne|Essendon vs Fitzroy
\6,522|round 18, 1971|Arden Street|North Melbourne vs Melbourne
\6,923|round 5, 1992|Carrara|Brisbane Bears vs West Coast
\7,000|round 10, 1927|Windy Hill|Essendon vs Fitzroy
\9,341|round 18, 2015|Carrara|Gold Coast vs West Coast
\10,000|round 12, 1947|Western Oval|Footscray vs St Kilda
\10,240|round 5, 1974|Lake Oval|South Melbourne vs Fitzroy
\10,302|round 22, 1980|Arden Street|North Melbourne vs St Kilda
\10,500|round 16, 1935|Victoria Park|Collingwood vs Melbourne
\10,500|round 16, 1950|Princes Park|Carlton vs St Kilda
\11,000|round 11, 1935|Western Oval|Footscray vs Geelong
\11,236|round 12, 1991|Western Oval|Footscray vs Sydney
\12,000|round 1, 1933|Arden Street|North Melbourne vs Fitzroy
\12,000|round 4, 1939|Brunswick Street|Fitzroy vs Hawthorn
\12,000|round 5, 1954|Brunswick Street|Fitzroy vs St Kilda
\12,156|round 16, 2017|York Park|Hawthorn vs G.W.S.
\12,500|round 15, 1956|Glenferrie|Hawthorn vs South Melbourne
\13,000|round 9, 1960|Punt Road|Richmond vs Geelong
\13,847|round 2, 1968|Glenferrie|Hawthorn vs South Melbourne
\13,868|round 14, 1994|Waverley|St Kilda vs Adelaide
\14,956|round 5, 2018|Docklands|St Kilda vs G. W. S.
 
Maybe a dumb question, but would North with two 'Z' surnames playing in the same team be the only such case..well Zurhaar has played 5 games, so maybe now 5 with Ziebell. Any other sides have two Z's play together?
 
Catsace said:
Maybe a dumb question, but would North with two 'Z' surnames playing in the same team be the only such case..well Zurhaar has played 5 games, so maybe now 5 with Ziebell. Any other sides have two Z's play together?
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I don't know but Essendon could join Norf with Zaharakis and Zerk-Thatcher.
 
Really? You’re referring to them as Norf in a stats thread?

Whilst on the topic of North, I can’t imagine they have finished the round with the highest percentage since at least the 90’s.
 

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Catsace said:
Maybe a dumb question, but would North with two 'Z' surnames playing in the same team be the only such case..well Zurhaar has played 5 games, so maybe now 5 with Ziebell. Any other sides have two Z's play together?
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From what I can see here, it wouldn't have happened (with any other players) in the AFL/VFL: https://australianfootball.com/players/player_list/Z

Zanchetta, Jordan (2018) (Brisbane WFC) and Zielke, Emma (2017-2018) (Brisbane WFC) would have played together this year in the AFLW (5 games).

Ziebell missed two of the games Zurhaar played last year so that would have been their third game together!
 
ThePezDispenser said:
Whilst on the topic of North, I can’t imagine they have finished the round with the highest percentage since at least the 90’s.
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Round 22 1996 should be the last time North had the highest percentage at the end of a round (127.45%). North sat second on the ladder at the time.

Richmond obviously have a chance to trump you tomorrow night should they win well enough.
 
This took me a while to produce. The thinking is I'd like to do it for every ladder position.

How to read it:
- eg. Best record (1987-) for a 1st placed side after 6 games is West Coast in 1991 (6-0, 206.0%)
- eg. Worst record (1987-) for a 1st placed side after 6 games is Collingwood in 1997 (4-2, 136.8%)

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That 1997 was one of the most even seasons ever; no real standout top side and only one genuinely poor side (Melbourne won the wooden spoon by 4 games and 27%).

To highlight how even it was, Fremantle finished 12th but if they'd won their final game they would've played finals.
 
Between 1920 and 1962 no team kicked any of:
  1. no score in Q1 and Q4
    • this last occurred in the infamous Albert Park match where St. Kilda did not score in Q1 and Q4, and in the latter quarter South Melbourne scored 17-4 (106), which is the record quarter score and exceeded the record quarter aggregate score until 1975)
  2. one behind in Q1 and no score in Q4
  3. no score in Q1 and one behind in Q4
Yet, case (2) occurred three times, all against Geelong, in two seasons and eight rounds:
  1. Round 4, 1963 by North Melbourne
  2. Round 1, 1965 by Footscray
  3. Round 12, 1965 by Footscray
In their two games against Geelong in 1965, Footscray scored just 6-11 (47). Of that 3-7 (25) was scored in the two third quarters.

Since the Round 12 game, no team has scored one behind in Q1 and nothing in Q4. However, two teams have scored nothing in Q1 and one behind in Q4:
  1. South Melbourne against Essendon in Round 17, 1965
  2. Collingwood against North Melbourne in Round 13, 1987
It’s remarkable the four “near misses” of failing to score in Q1 and Q4 in 1965, and only two equivalent cases since 1920 apart from that!
 
red+black said:
Carlton start and finish each year very poorly.

In the last 3 seasons, Carlton have gone 1-13, 1-12 and now 1-14. I hope the supporters are patient.
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Sounds a little familiar. Danny Frawley went 3-11, 1-13 and 0-14 after Round 8 in his last three years. Then the Wallace era began...

Rejoice, Carlton fans!
 
One of the most accurate games just finished. With 3:10 to go, Boak had a shot from straight in front, 35m out.
The score was WC 16.5 to PA 9.3 (75.76% combined accuracy)

He missed, and 3 further behinds were scored. That is, 4 of the games 12 behinds were scored in the last 3:10!
Final score: WC 16.6 to PA 9.6 (67.57% combined accuracy)
 
Swans losses at the SCG since 2000:
5 - 2002, 2001
4 - 2017, 2011, 2006
3 - 2018 (to R7), 2009
2 - 2016, 2015, 2012, 2008, 2005, 2003
1 - 2014, 2013, 2010, 2007, 2004

Remaining H&A SCG games: FR, CA, WC, GE, GC, CO, HA

Latest since 2000 to win first game @ SCG: R8, 2006 and R8, 2011
Latest since 2000 to win first home game @ SCG: R13, 2006
 
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Since Round 1, Combined Losses between Richmond, West Coast and Adelaide: 2
Since Round 1, Combined Wins between Essendon, St Kilda, Brisbane and Carlton: 1

Brisbane and Carlton are both good chances to open their account next week. The Lions face the Dogs at Etihad while the Blues play the Dons at the G.
 
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