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[Marklar_33]

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For their sake I hope they don't follow the way we played for the rest of the year after that loss.

For my sake, I disagree

 

[Connor7395]

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Round 16 2010 - Trivia:

1) Only the 3rd time Hawthorn has won a match by scoring 75% or more of their score in the 1st (38.14%) and third (40.68%) quarters.
2) Hawthorn v Brisbane is only the 2nd match ever played where the 1st and 3rd quarter margins were 6 goals or more and the 2nd and 4th quarter margins were 3 points or less.
3) 76 pts: Greatest turnaround in a result in the same season by Collingwood after losing their first match v St Kilda.
4) First time West Coast has had the highest score of the round since 26.17.173 v Richmond, round 22, 2006.
5) 2nd time this year that Melbourne has scored more than half their total score in the 3rd quarter, their most in 1 season since twice in 1990. (Most: 3 times in 1898, 1902, 1910, 1919.)


Details and More Here:

I remembered this.

First time since stats were kept (since around the sixties - eighties) that no player on one team scored a point.

Brisbane 7.1 <-----That point was a rushed behind.

 

[Connor7395]

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Random stat: Has a team won the flag with one/two draws for the year? This doesn't include finals draws

This answer is YES!

1905: Fitzroy (Drew once with South Melbourne)
1911: Essendon (Drew with Carlton, who drew twice in the first two rounds!)
1914: Carlton (Drew with Collingwood in Rd 1 and S.M in Round 4)
1915: Carlton (Drew with Fitzroy)
1916: Fitzroy (Drew with Collingwood)
1917: Collingwood (Drew with Richmond, who finished last. Another fact, between 1914 and 1917, Carlton drew three times in the opening round!)
1922: Fitzroy (Drew with Essendon)
1924: Essendon (Drew with Carlton)
1932: Richmond (Drew with Geelong)
1935: Collingwood (Drew with Fitzroy and Melbourne, both games being goals after the siren to draw the matches)
1944: Fitzroy (Drew with Essendon)
1952: Geelong (Drew with Essendon)
1954: Footscray (Drew with North Melbourne)
1957: Melbourne (Drew with Collingwood)
1959: Melbourne (Drew with Fitzroy)
1963: Geelong (Drew with Hawthorn, the ironic runners-up)
1972: Carlton (Drew with Collingwood)
1980: Richmond (Drew with St.Kilda)
1982: Carlton (Drew with Fitzroy)
1992: West Coast (Drew with Brisbane after the siren)
1993: Essendon (Drew with Carlton, the ironic runners-up)
2003: Brisbane (Drew with the Kangaroos)

Could Collingwood do it this year?

 

[worbod]

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Finals games played across all three grades


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Finals
Club . . .Games Won Lost Drawn Win % Series Flags Runners up
Collingwood 303 128 170 . 5 . 43.06 . 142 . 25 . . 38
Essendon . .279 148 127 . 4 . 53.76 . 131 . 29 . . 33
Carlton . . 239 120 117 . 2 . 50.62 . 115 . 30 . . 21
Geelong . . 229 111 114 . 4 . 49.34 . 107 . 22 . . 23
Richmond . .219 119 .96 . 4 . 55.25 . .97 . 30 . . 26
Melbourne . 190 112 .76 . 2 . 59.47 . .84 . 30 . . 15
North Melb .172 .87 .84 . 1 . 50.87 . .74 . 18 . . 16
Fitzroy . . 145 .75 .69 . 1 . 52.06 . .67 . 13 . . 18
Footscray . 139 .53 .84 . 2 . 38.84 . .65 . .8 . . .7
Hawthorn . .138 .72 .66 . - . 52.17 . .60 . 15 . . .9
South/Sydney113 .48 .65 . - . 42.47 . .58 . .5 . . 17
St.Kilda . . 96 .43 .53 . - . 44.79 . .50 . .5 . . 11

 

[worbod]

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100 games in senior and reserves football
(not necessarily a complete list)


Player . . . . . Club/s . . . Seniors Reserves
Paul Abbott . . . Haw/Fitz . . . 111 . 105
Emmett Dunne . . .Rich/Foots . . 129 . 139
Mark Eustice . . .Ess/Rich/Syd . 137 . 110
Wes Fellowes . . .Coll . . . . . 102 . 114
Allan Goad . . . .Haw . . . . . .138 . 108
Peter Johnston . .Melb/Geel . . .132 . 112
Michael McCarthy .Haw/Bris Bears 126 . 108
James Morrissey . Haw . . . . . .106 . 100+
Bill Nettlefold . Rich/Nth/Melb .100 . 109
Alby Pannam . . . Coll/Rich . . .183 . 119
Roy Ramsay . . . .Nth/Ess . . . .126 . 159
Leon Rice . . . . Haw . . . . . .133 . 100+
Peter Schwab . . .Haw . . . . . .171 . 100+
Xavier Tanner . . Nth/Melb . . . 111 . 122
Steven Taubert . .Rich/Ess/Syd . 123 . 113
Peter Welsh . . . Haw/Rich . . . 125 . 125
Shane Zantuck . . Nth/Sth/Melb. .149 . 110




Near misses


Player. . . . . . . Club/s Seniors Reserves
Alle de Wolde . . . . Haw . . .97 . . 115
Robert DiPierdomenico Haw . . 240 . . .99
Greg Hutchison . . . .Melb . . 96 . . 115
Spiro Koutkoumelis . .Carl/StK 97 . . 105
Ian Paton . . . . . . Haw . . 155 . . .97
Kevin Sheehan . . . . Geel . .102 . . .95

 

[Marklar_33]

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Could Collingwood do it this year?

Or St.Kilda or Hawthorn?

 

[Connor7395]

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Or St.Kilda or Hawthorn?

Oh yeah, and them LOL

 

[Marklar_33]

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Oh yeah, and them LOL

Dont get me wrong...Id prefer the first one

 

[ballanFYNE]

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...............or Freo........................

 

[Dangas]

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well heres a stat, Lewis Jetta would surely be the first player to kick 0 goals 16 behinds?

 

[RogersResults]

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Round 17 2010 – Trivia.

1) Hawthorn v St Kilda: 4 behinds: The lowest number of behinds conceded in consecutive matches (Hawthorn conceded 1 behind in round 16) since 3 behinds conceded by Sydney/SM rounds 10 and 11 1901. (v Collingwood 5.1-31, v Carlton 3.2-20)


2) First time Geelong has won all 4 quarters in consecutive matches v Brisbane.


3) Richmond's 5th match lost this year in all 4 quarters equalling their most in one season - 5 in 1989, 1992, 1997, 2001, 2004


4) Carlton v West Coast: 26 pts. is the highest points total where one team's half time leading margin becomes the other team's winning margin.


5) Only the 2nd match where Essendon has defeated Nth Melbourne by leading by 10 or fewer pts at the end of each quarter.

More Here:

 

[mianfei]

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1. The draw between Hawthorn and St. Kilda is only the third draw ever in Round 17, with the previous being in 1921 and 1988.
2. This puts Round 17 equal with Round 13 as the round with fewest draws among the eighteen constant (except war years) since 1908
3. Hawthorn has taken eighty-five years to play ten drawn games, easily the longest by a club following admission to the V/AFL. The previous most was sixty-three years by Geelong and fifty-seven by St. Kilda.
4. Hawthorn, Geelong and North Melbourne are the only of the twelve clubs competing before 1987 never to have drawn twice in one season
5. Of the ten pairs of teams competing before 1987 not to have drawn (Fitzroy never drew with Richmond or Footscray) half involve Hawthorn:
   1. The Hawks have never drawn with Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne or Richmond
   2. the other pairs are:
      1. Carlton v North Melbourne
      2. Geelong v South Melbourne
      3. Geelong v St. Kilda

 

[Connor7395]

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well heres a stat, Lewis Jetta would surely be the first player to kick 0 goals 16 behinds?

Now that's just a JOKE (and it's true)

On the OTHER side of the table, Josh Kennedy had about 16-20 consecutive goals to start the year before missing against Port Adelaide.

And Matthew Richardson in 1995 kicked 27 goals 3 (But he injured a knee in Round 9 and ended his year)

 

[*Paul*]

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Jetta having the record, it's possible but no means certain. After all in the early years, the ratio of goals to behinds was relatively low.

And there are a few other possible 16 behind streaks in the last couple of decades (albeit not from debut) e.g. Matthew Febey could have done it 93-94
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/M/Matthew_Febey.html

Previous worst from debut (in my unfortunately limited data set) is Kingsley Hunter, Nathan Brown (MEL) and Adrian Whitehead all with 10.

 

[mianfei]

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1. The first three times Hawthorn had the biggest win of the season it achieved that against Geelong (viz. 1975, 1977, 1986)
2. those three years are the last three of only six where Geelong suffered the biggest loss of the year
3. Footscray has had the biggest win of the year only in 1946 and 1951, and the biggest loss only with its 146-point loss in 1982
4. Excluding the war-interrupted seasons of 1916 to 1918, the smallest maximum winning margin in a season is 66 points in 1923
5. Richmond suffered the biggest loss of both its first two VFL seasons (in both cases to South Melbourne) then had the biggest win of 1910 against Melbourne

 

[Catsace]

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Geelong's 3/4 time score today of 18.3.111 matched it's half time score exactly of 18.3.111 against South Melbourne at the Lakeside Oval in 1978. That match saw Geelong win 26.11.167 to South's 24.11.155.

 

[mianfei]

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Geelong's 3/4 time score today of 18.3.111 matched it's half time score exactly of 18.3.111 against South Melbourne at the Lakeside Oval in 1978. That match saw Geelong win 26.11.167 to South's 24.11.155.

That was an amazing game. Thirty-two goals were kicked in the first half, which actually equalled the later record of North Melbourne and Sydney in 1991 when they became the only teams to score two hundred points in a half.

Although people my age may not realise, that game was totally out of character for the Geelong of the late 1970s, whose success was based on their excellent defence, which did not do badly against the amazing attack of Roach, Bartlett, Cloke, Monteath and Wiley in 1980. The game was described in The Age as being like basketball in the way the ball moved.

 

[red+black]

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1. Last time Collingwood was atop the ladder 4 times in a season: 1997
2. Last time Collingwood was atop the ladder 5 times in a season: 1981
3. Geelong's worst position after Round 8 in the last 4 years: 2nd
4. Fremantle's ladder position every round this season has at worst equaled their best position for each round.
5. The teams in finals contention have not changed for the last 8 rounds (including this round). If this continues, then the finals teams would have been decided by Round 11 and no team has come in or gone out. Some notable comparisons:
R15 - 2006 (top 8, 16 teams, 22 rounds)
R11 - 1985 (top 5, 12t, 22r)
R8 - 1982 (top 5, 12t, 22r)
R7 - 1979 (top 5, 12t, 22r)
R7 - 1968 (top 4, 12t, 20r)
R5 - 1967 (top 4, 12t, 18r)
R4 - 1921 (top 4, 9t, 18r)

 

[worbod]

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When clubs had Seniors, Reserves and Under 19s in the finals in the same season
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Richmond (10) 1947, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1982
Collingwood (6) 1959, 1960, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967
Essendon (6) 1948, 1950, 1951, 1953, 1973, 1989
Geelong (6) 1962, 1963, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1989
North Melbourne (6) 1950, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1983
Carlton (4) 1952, 1979, 1985, 1988
Melbourne (4) 1946, 1954, 1990, 1991
Hawthorn (3) 1976, 1984, 1985
Fitzroy (1) 1983
Footscray (1) 1974
St. Kilda (1) 1966
South/Sydney (0) never​

 

[Connor7395]

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This is out to Ron the Bear.

Which game contained the most players playing a milestone game (eg. 50th game, 100th, 150th, 200th, 250th, 300th, etc. Not debut matches or final matches). Like, for example, 5 players could be playing their 50th and 2 might be playing their 200th, all in the same game

 

[Ron The Bear]

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This is out to Ron the Bear.

Which game contained the most players playing a milestone game (eg. 50th game, 100th, 150th, 200th, 250th, 300th, etc. Not debut matches or final matches). Like, for example, 5 players could be playing their 50th and 2 might be playing their 200th, all in the same game

Four games have contained five milestones.

1990 R2, WB d Sy by 62 points - Merv Neagle (Sy, 200), Stephen Wright (Sy, 200), Steven Wallis (WB, 150), David Murphy (Sy, 100), Terry Thripp (Sy, 50)

1992 R15, Ri d Ca by 3 points - Craig Bradley (Ca, 150), Stephen Kernahan (Ca, 150), Greg Williams (Ca, 150), Mil Hanna (Ca, 100), Stevan Jackson (Ri, 50)

2003 R14, Es d St by 68 points - Justin Peckett (St, 200), Scott Lucas (Es, 150), Heath Black (St, 100), Mark Johnson (Es, 100), Stephen Milne (St, 50)

2009 R2 WC d PA by 50 points - Chad Cornes (PA, 200), Shaun Burgoyne (PA, 150), Brett Ebert (PA, 100), Toby Thurstans (PA, 100), Matt Rosa (WC, 50)

Another 23 matches have contained four milestones. The only one of these pre-dating WW2 was in R16, 1907 (Ca v Es) when four players reached 50 games.

 

[RogersResults]

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Round 18 – 2010 – Trivia:

1) 64.91%: Carlton's greatest percentage of their total score scored in the last quarter v Collingwood. Previous: 63.64% round 14, 1897 - 2.2-14 of total score of 3.4-22 scored in the last quarter.

2) First time Port Adelaide has won a match by winning only the last quarter.

3) 53 pts. Sydney/SM's biggest loss with 2 more scoring shots. Previous: 48 pts. round 19, 1978 - Sydney/SM 3.19-37 v St Kilda 13.7-85.

4) WB/Footscray's 7th win this year by 10 goals or more. Previous most in 1 season - 4 in 2009.

5) 1st time that Fremantle has defeated West Coast in all 4 quarters.

A lot more here:

 

[Connor7395]

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Four games have contained five milestones.

1990 R2, WB d Sy by 62 points - Merv Neagle (Sy, 200), Stephen Wright (Sy, 200), Steven Wallis (WB, 150), David Murphy (Sy, 100), Terry Thripp (Sy, 50)

1992 R15, Ri d Ca by 3 points - Craig Bradley (Ca, 150), Stephen Kernahan (Ca, 150), Greg Williams (Ca, 150), Mil Hanna (Ca, 100), Stevan Jackson (Ri, 50)

2003 R14, Es d St by 68 points - Justin Peckett (St, 200), Scott Lucas (Es, 150), Heath Black (St, 100), Mark Johnson (Es, 100), Stephen Milne (St, 50)

2009 R2 WC d PA by 50 points - Chad Cornes (PA, 200), Shaun Burgoyne (PA, 150), Brett Ebert (PA, 100), Toby Thurstans (PA, 100), Matt Rosa (WC, 50)

Another 23 matches have contained four milestones. The only one of these pre-dating WW2 was in R16, 1907 (Ca v Es) when four players reached 50 games.

THE BIG TRIPLE!

I remember a 'Play's of the Month' segment where Williams and Bradley both played their 200th games at the same time. Unfortunately, when they ran through the banner they both tripped over!

When the teamates stopped laughing they went to demoralise Richmond by 19 goals.

 

[Ron The Bear]

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THE BIG TRIPLE!

I remember a 'Play's of the Month' segment where Williams and Bradley both played their 200th games at the same time. Unfortunately, when they ran through the banner they both tripped over!

When the teamates stopped laughing they went to demoralise Richmond by 19 goals.

We got 'em back at Silvagni's 300th.

A few more quirky milestone stats:

- Bernie Quinlan is the only player to play four milestone games against one club (50, 150, 200, 350 v Geelong)

- Hawthorn won every one of Michael Tuck's milestone games (50-400)

- Matthew Lappin played in a loss in all five of his milestones (50th at St.Kilda, the rest at Carlton)

Bear in mind with the above that the definition of a "club game" was revised some years ago, so what appear to be milestone games today may not have been celebrated as such at the time. Previously, games played for Victoria on the same day as VFL matches took place (yes, they used to do this) counted as club games; when these were excluded, several players' official tallies were scaled back by one or more games. Most notably, this cost dual Brownlow winner Keith Greig his official 300 games milestone. I hear Keith has no time for AFL football these days, though I'm not sure how much the recount has to do with it.

 

[Falchoon]

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Heath Black had 2 stints at Freo

The first was 69 games and 31 goals
the second 69 games and 30 goals