Stats observations

[Catsace]

I know it's half time, but Hawthorn led St.Kilda 10.24 to 10.3 in that remarkable game in Rd 6 1977.

I recall almost with wide-eyed astonishment as it was my first VFL game i attended being a 9 y/o back then, when blokes listening to their transistors would call out Hawks 6.15 to 5.1, Hawks are 8.20, Hawks lead 10.24 to 10.3..

Up to the final score of 25.41.191. Hawthorn about 10 weeks later would match that final score of 191 points by kicking 28.23.191 to smash my poor Cats by 107 points, the game where Matthews, Hudson and Hendrie combined to score 23 goals!!

 

[mianfei]

19 behinds:

Round 4 1939

Richmond 11.22 v Sydney/SM 11.3

Final score 14.24 v 13.7

That's one record-holder that never attracts any attention, for the simple reason that its record was beaten at half-time by that famous 1977 game. Imagine if Hawthorn had not become a little more accurate later in the game (10-9 in the last quarter into the wind) what record would have been set??

Even as it stands, Hawthorn's record is the most unbeatable apart from the low-scoring records in the VFL/AFL today. More than that, as I have said it comes much closer than any other VFL/AFL record to being a record for all senior Australian Rules football.

 

[RogersResults]

I know it's half time, but Hawthorn led St.Kilda 10.24 to 10.3 in that remarkable game in Rd 6 1977.

I recall almost with wide-eyed astonishment as it was my first VFL game i attended being a 9 y/o back then, when blokes listening to their transistors would call out Hawks 6.15 to 5.1, Hawks are 8.20, Hawks lead 10.24 to 10.3..

Up to the final score of 25.41.191. Hawthorn about 10 weeks later would match that final score of 191 points by kicking 28.23.191 to smash my poor Cats by 107 points, the game where Matthews, Hudson and Hendrie combined to score 23 goals!!

Hawthorn's scoring shots in that match (round 6, 1977) are the most by 6 and the most behinds by 6. (Only 2 behinds were recorded as rushed.)

The next most scoring shots, 60 would have beaten Hawthorn by 19 points - Carlton's 30.30-210 in round 2, 1969.

The least number of scoring shots that would have beaten Hawthorn's 1977 score is 40 - Sydney/SM 31.9-195 round 18, 1979.

 

[RogersResults]

Number of wins/losses/draws after 6 matches and the percentage
of premierships won with those results.

6-0-0 15.7%
5-0-1 2.6%
5-1-0 33.0%
4-1-1 5.2%
4-2-0 25.2%
3-2-1 1.7%
3-3-0 9.6%
2-2-2 0.9%
2-3-1 0.9%
2-4-0 5.2%

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Number of wins/losses/draws after 6 matches and the percentage
of premierships won with those results.

6-0-0 15.7%
5-0-1 2.6%
5-1-0 33.0%
4-1-1 5.2%
4-2-0 25.2%
3-2-1 1.7%
3-3-0 9.6%
2-2-2 0.9%
2-3-1 0.9%
2-4-0 5.2%

I find it very interesting that 5% of premiership teams have won the flag after only winning 2 of their first 6 games.

The rest of this post makes sense though. 2-2-2 and 2-3-1, as bizarre as they are, have only occurred once each (less than one percent)

 

[Rourke]

Number of wins/losses/draws after 6 matches and the percentage
of premierships won with those results.

6-0-0 15.7%
5-0-1 2.6%
5-1-0 33.0%
4-1-1 5.2%
4-2-0 25.2%
3-2-1 1.7%
3-3-0 9.6%
2-2-2 0.9%
2-3-1 0.9%
2-4-0 5.2%

Can we have conditional probabilities too please? I.e., of teams that started 5-1-0, what percentage went on to win the premiership? That ought to show a more stable relationship

 

[RogersResults]

I find it very interesting that 5% of teams have won the flag after only winning 2 of their first 6 games.

The rest of this post makes sense though. 2-2-2 and 2-3-1, as bizarre as they are, have only occurred once each (less than one percent)

2 wins 4 losses have been:

Sydney 2005
Adelaide 1998
Adelaide 1997
Nth Melb 1975
Carlton 1945
Melbourne 1900

Melbourne in 1900 were able to exploit the fact that the re-draw based on ladder positions after each team had played each other twice created a new ladder to decide the finalists.

The 1900 season ended with Melbourne as premiers but with 4 other teams with a higher match/win percentage than them for the year. The re-drawn 'sectional' matches were included in the season ladder after that.

The 2-3-1 is Fitzroy in 1916 who didn't win again in the first round of matches that with only four teams competing were just to see who got the double chance in the finals. Carlton had the double chance but Fitzroy had the form in the finals.

The 2-2-2 was Carlton in 1914 who then went 2-3-2 before winning the next 11 matches straight to take top position on the ladder going into the finals. (In Carlton's 2 draws they had 10 and 5 more scoring shots than their opponents.)

 

[RogersResults]

Can we have conditional probabilities too please? I.e., of teams that started 5-1-0, what percentage went on to win the premiership? That ought to show a more stable relationship

6-0-0 30.6% (18/59)
5-1-0 23.5% (39/166)
4-2-0 11.0% (29/264)
3-3-0 2.6% (8/306)
2-4-0 2.6% (6/229)

Teams with less than 3 losses after 14 rounds have won 46.8%
of premierships.

Wooden Spoon

0-6-0 53.2% (41/77)

Do not take any of this as information to 'beat the odds'.

 

[Ron The Bear]

I find it very interesting that 5% of teams have won the flag after only winning 2 of their first 6 games.

I think it's the other way around, i.e. 5% of premierships have been won by 2-4 teams. The number of 2-4 teams would be high compared with 6-0 teams.

 

[UpForGrabs]

West Coast also went 2-3-1 in 1992 but they had a bye in rd 1, so they were in rd 7 when they lost their third match, to Fitzroy.

 

[RogersResults]

West Coast also went 2-3-1 in 1992 but they had a bye in rd 1, so they were in rd 7 when they lost their third match, to Fitzroy.

Essendon in 1993 were 2-3-1 after 7 rounds too, losing two of the games to teams that didn't make the finals.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Record after 6 games v ladder position after h&a rounds:

W-L-D 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 15th 16th 17th
=================================================================================
6-0-0  23  15  13   1   1   3   1   -   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
5-0-1   2   4   3   2   1   -   -   -   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
5-1-0  46  33  29  15  16   9   6   3   4    -    1    -    -    -    1    -    -
4-0-2   1   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
4-1-1   3   3   4   3   3   3   -   1   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
4-2-0  27  38  33  41  33  28  19  15   6   10    5    2    3    2    -    -    -
3-1-2   -   -   1   -   -   -   -   -   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
3-2-1   2   3   2   2   2   4   5   1   2    1    1    1    2    -    -    -    -
3-3-0   8  17  20  30  35  35  38  32  33   23   12    7    6    2    3    -    -
2-2-2   1   -   -   -   -   -   1   -   -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -
2-3-1   1   1   1   3   1   5   4   2   3    1    1    2    -    -    1    1    -
2-4-0   1   1   7  16  18  17  23  35  24   19   26   17    7   10    3    1    1
1-4-1   -   -   -   -   1   3   2   3   5    -    4    2    -    1    2    -    -
1-5-0   -   -   2   2   2   5  12  11  20   32   26   29    7    7    6    9    -
0-5-1   -   -   -   -   1   -   -   -   -    1    1    -    -    -    -    1    -
0-6-0   -   -   -   -   -   1   3  10   4    7   10   25    -    3    5    5    -

 

[LiterallyNobody]

6-0-0 30.6% (18/59)
5-1-0 23.5% (39/166)
4-2-0 11.0% (29/264)
3-3-0 2.6% (8/306)
2-4-0 2.6% (6/229)

Teams with less than 3 losses after 14 rounds have won 46.8%
of premierships.

Wooden Spoon

0-6-0 53.2% (41/77)

Do not take any of this as information to 'beat the odds'.

I would never personally do that. I love stats. Not sure why. Just something I've always been obsessed with. I really appreciate all the effort you go to in coming up with all of this RR. great work!

 

[LiterallyNobody]

I think it's the other way around, i.e. 5% of premierships have been won by 2-4 teams. The number of 2-4 teams would be high compared with 6-0 teams.

Yeah I knew that. I just wrote it a little ambiguously. Even if it is the case, its still a high percentage as indicated by RR's previous post.

 

[Duritz]

6-0-0 30.6% (18/59)
5-1-0 23.5% (39/166)
4-2-0 11.0% (29/264)
3-3-0 2.6% (8/306)
2-4-0 2.6% (6/229)

Teams with less than 3 losses after 14 rounds have won 46.8%
of premierships.

Wooden Spoon

0-6-0 53.2% (41/77)

Do not take any of this as information to 'beat the odds'.

If these probabilities hold true this year then there's an extremely high likelihood of the premiership going to one of: west coast, Carlton, Sydney, adelaide, Essendon.

 

[RogersResults]

If these probabilities hold true this year then there's an extremely high likelihood of the premiership going to one of: west coast, Carlton, Sydney, adelaide, Essendon.

It's more complex than that. As a collective teams that win more often usually become premiers but individually around 70% of teams that have been in their position haven't won the the premiership. The more there are in that position then the less chance any one of them will be premiers. Then the smaller the sample of matches, the less it holds true.

Here's 8 consecutive matches from a season - who are the premiers?

Collingwood 7-1-0
Carlton 7-1-0
St Kilda 6-2-0
Adelaide 5-3-0
W. Bulldogs 5-3-0
Brisbane 4-3-1
Geelong 4-4-0
Sydney 3-5-0

Start of the season figures are:
7-1-0 premiers 30.1% of the time
6-2-0 premiers 19.8%
5-3-0 premiers 7.5%
4-4-0 premiers 2.8%
3-5-0 premiers 1.7%

But the actual results above if you haven't guessed, are from rounds 14 to 21 2009.

Brisbane in 2003 were also 4-4-0 from rounds 14-21.
(The 9th best result in that period.)

Deducing from stats like these in a human team sport is 'dicey' to say the least. Someone with advanced knowledge of the mathematics of odds may be able to contribute more than I can.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Deducing from stats like these in a human team sport is 'dicey' to say the least.

Assuming that the future will replicate the past is also fraught with danger. It's a matter of discerning probabilities rather than mathematical certainties.

 

[Duritz]

It's more complex than that. As a collective teams that win more often usually become premiers but individually around 70% of teams that have been in their position haven't won the the premiership. The more there are in that position then the less chance any one of them will be premiers. Then the smaller the sample of matches, the less it holds true.

Here's 8 consecutive matches from a season - who are the premiers?

Collingwood 7-1-0
Carlton 7-1-0
St Kilda 6-2-0
Adelaide 5-3-0
W. Bulldogs 5-3-0
Brisbane 4-3-1
Geelong 4-4-0
Sydney 3-5-0

Start of the season figures are:
7-1-0 premiers 30.1% of the time
6-2-0 premiers 19.8%
5-3-0 premiers 7.5%
4-4-0 premiers 2.8%
3-5-0 premiers 1.7%

But the actual results above if you haven't guessed, are from rounds 14 to 21 2009.

Brisbane in 2003 were also 4-4-0 from rounds 14-21.
(The 9th best result in that period.)

Deducing from stats like these in a human team sport is 'dicey' to say the least. Someone with advanced knowledge of the mathematics of odds may be able to contribute more than I can.

Assuming that the future will replicate the past is also fraught with danger. It's a matter of discerning probabilities rather than mathematical certainties.

Too late, I just put the house on the Eagles.

Can I cancel my bet????

 

[red+black]

Most career goals (200+) by debut season (1993-):

*I thought this had been done but I couldn't find it. With Pavlich getting #500 today, I was wondering how many career goals can a modern day footballer kick? Lance Franklin is a gun and as many goals as he has kicked, he should have kicked even more. And Jack Riewoldt is possibly the last of a dying breed of 500+ career goal kickers. Will Buddy and Jack be the last ever players to kick 600 goals?

1993 - 800 Matthew Richardson  631 David Neitz
1994 - 558 Brad Johnson        349 Scott Cummings
1995 - 926 Matthew Lloyd       549 Fraser Gehrig
1996 - 746 Barry Hall          471 Scott Lucas
1997 - 549 Warren Tredrea      428 Russell Robertson
1998 - 361 Chris Tarrant*      327 Nathan Thompson
1999 - 623 Brendan Fevola      364 Adam Goodes*
2000 - 504 Jonathan Brown*     500 Matthew Pavlich*
2001 - 501 Stephen Milne*      487 Nick Riewoldt*
2002 - 370 Steve Johnson*      286 Gary Ablett Jnr*
2003 - 230 Adam Schneider
2004 - 217 Brett Ebert
2005 - 467 Lance Franklin*     261 Jarryd Roughead*
2006 - 
2007 - 213 Jack Riewoldt*

 

[Krustyy]

Will Buddy and Jack be the last ever players to kick 600 goals?

Probably a bit early to be talking about the death of high career goal counts.

Jack's first 51 games: 67 goals.
Taylor Walker's 51 games: 110 goals

Buddy's first 29 games: 38 goals.
Stewart Crameri's 29 games: 50 goals

 

[red+black]

Maybe, but Pavlich, Franklin and Jack Riewoldt are the only 3 players to debut in the last 15 years who might reach 600 career goals. In that time, only Lockett and Franklin have kicked 100 in a [home and away] season.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Players are definitely taking longer to reach 500.

Gms Player              Year Rd   Age
---------------------------------------
 87 Hudson, Peter       1971 10 25y106d
 93 Coleman, John       1954  1 25y147d
107 McKenna, Peter      1971 18 24y338d
108 Pratt, Bob          1936  1 23y245d
113 Dunstall, Jason     1990  4 25y250d
117 Lockett, Tony       1990  5 24y 50d
124 Mohr, Bill          1936  6 26y343d
130 Taylor, Brian       1989  8 27y 40d
131 White, Lindsay      1949 13 27y192d
132 Moriarty, Jack      1931 14 30y100d
132 Beasley, Simon      1988  5 31y278d
134 Modra, Tony         1999 16 30y139d
137 Wade, Doug          1969  8 27y220d
140 Ablett senior, Gary 1991 19 29y299d
141 Lloyd, Matthew      2002 21 24y131d
143 Coventry, Gordon    1929  4 27y235d
144 Sumich, Peter       1997 16 29y189d
145 Templeton, Kelvin   1983  5 26y207d
148 Rocca, Saverio      2000  4 26y133d
149 Vallence, Harry     1935 15 30y 67d
157 Roach, Michael      1986  3 27y185d
161 Longmire, John      1997  6 26y123d
163 Lee, Dick           1917 11 28y124d
164 Titus, Jack         1936 14 28y152d
167 Richardson, Matthew 2003 13 28y101d
169 Fevola, Brendan     2009  5 28y 96d
174 Kernahan, Stephen   1993 QF 30y  3d
180 Harris, Dick D.     1944  3 32y212d
181 Moncrieff, Michael  1980 17 27y342d
189 Smith, Norm W.      1947  1 32y149d
189 Matthews, Leigh     1978 17 26y150d
191 Carey, Wayne        1999  8 27y353d
205 Salmon, Paul        1995 18 30y197d
207 Hall, Barry         2007  3 30y 66d
212 Brown, Jonathan     2012  4 30y175d
225 Bradshaw, Daniel    2010  3 31y140d
229 Osborne, Richard    1995  8 30y338d
231 Daicos, Peter       1992  6 30y218d
231 Tredrea, Warren     2009  4 30y115d
241 Milne, Stephen      2012  5 32y 51d
244 Gehrig, Fraser      2007 10 31y 92d
250 Neitz, David        2005  3 30y 76d
251 Loewe, Stewart      1998 20 30y 85d
262 Pavlich, Matthew    2012  7 30y134d
269 Lynch, Alastair     2002 QF 34y 80d
288 Quinlan, Bernie     1983  8 31y297d
288 O'Loughlin, Michael 2009  7 32y 78d
292 Bartlett, Kevin     1978 22 31y180d
299 Grant, Chris        2005  4 32y124d
318 Johnson, Brad       2008 19 32y 23d
329 Madden, Simon       1990  4 32y112d

average games: 186
average age: 29y41d

The average number of goals is below 26 per game in 2012; if this trend continues, it will be the first such season since 1970. Am expecting an imminent increase in soft frees in front of goal to 'encourage' higher scoring.

 

[The Passenger]

wow. i would have never guessed brett ebert would be the leading goalkicker from his draft year....

 

[RogersResults]

Observed in Round 7 2012:

• Its Melbourne's worst start to a season except for 1919.
• 93.1: Geelong's average score from the first 7 matches is 0.4 higher than it was in 2011.
• 90.0: Geelong's average points conceded so far in 2012 is their highest since 91.5 in 2005.
• Gold Coast scored their 2000th point.
• First time that Richmond has had consecutive wins over the Swans since 2001-02.
• Essendon's last goal was their 666th v West Coast.
• Collingwood's biggest win v Brisbane since 66 points round 2, 1992.
• Nth Melbourne's 1,000th loss.
• Port Adelaide have lost 22 of their last 25 matches.
• Only the 6th time that St Kilda has beaten Carlton in all 4 quarters.

Detail and more here or here

 

[Ron The Bear]

Taylor Walker's tally of 23 goals is the lowest to lead the goalkicking table after Round 7 since 1973 (career goals, career matches, age at Round 7, goals for season, matches for season, winner with goals & matches at Round 7 and goals for season):

Year Player              Gl Cb M  CGl CMa   Age    GS MS Winner                G7 M  GS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2012 Walker, Taylor      23 Ad 7  113  52 22y 17d  23  7
2011 Riewoldt, Jack      25 Ri 7  160  75 22y188d  62 22 Franklin, Lance       21 6  71
2010 Pavlich, Matthew    27 Fr 7  434 220 28y128d  61 23 Riewoldt, Jack        15 7  78
2009 Roughead, Jarryd    26 Ha 7  159  90 22y105d  51 19 Fevola, Brendan      24 7  86
[COLOR=blue]2008 Franklin, Lance     36 Ha 7  161  63 21y 94d 113 25 Franklin, Lance       36 7 102[/COLOR]
2007 Fevola, Brendan     25 Ca 7  353 130 26y112d  59 19 Brown, Jonathan       17 7  77
[COLOR=blue]2006 Fevola, Brendan     26 Ca 6  270 108 25y114d  84 21 Fevola, Brendan       26 6  84[/COLOR]
2005 Williams, Mark      24 Ha 7   68  40 22y 25d  63 19 Gehrig, Fraser        23 6  74
[COLOR=blue]2004 Gehrig, Fraser      31 St 7  260 175 28y 66d 103 23 Gehrig, Fraser        31 7  90[/COLOR]
2003 Matera, Phillip     27 WC 7  255 125 27y164d  62 19 Lloyd, Matthew        26 7  87
2002 Hall, Barry         25 Sy 7  169  95 25y 92d  55 17 Neitz, David          21 7  75
[COLOR=blue]2001 Lloyd, Matthew      28 Es 6  382 112 23y 26d 105 21 Lloyd, Matthew        28 6  96[/COLOR]
2000 Cummings, Scott     36 WC 7  316 108 26y 96d  47 13 Lloyd, Matthew        33 7  94
1999 Lloyd, Matthew      36 Es 7  194  66 21y 22d  87 22 Cummings, Scott       28 7  88
[COLOR=blue]1998 Lockett, Tony       29 Sy 6 1195 242 32y 60d 109 23 Lockett, Tony         29 6 107[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1997 Modra, Tony         37 Ad 7  374  92 28y 71d  84 25 Modra, Tony           37 7  81[/COLOR]
1996 Loewe, Stewart      44 St 7  374 198 27y353d  90 22 Lockett, Tony         36 7 114
[COLOR=blue]1995 Ablett senior, Gary 40 Ge 7  879 216 33y224d 122 22 Ablett senior, Gary   40 7 118[/COLOR]
1994 Modra, Tony         32 Ad 5  182  36 25y 60d  70 19 Ablett senior, Gary   29 6 113
1993 Modra, Tony         39 Ad 6   60  14 24y 68d 129 23 Ablett senior, Gary   33 4 124
[COLOR=blue]1992 Dunstall, Jason     55 Ha 7  697 152 27y262d 145 23 Dunstall, Jason       55 7 139[/COLOR]
1991 Dunstall, Jason     34 Ha 6  594 133 26y263d  82 18 Lockett, Tony         12 1 118
1990 Lockett, Tony       47 St 7  512 119 24y 64d  65 12 Longmire, John        32 7  98
1989 Lockett, Tony       49 St 7  436 108 23y 65d  78 11 Dunstall, Jason       38 7 128
[COLOR=blue]1988 Dunstall, Jason     41 Ha 7  248  69 23y274d 132 23 Dunstall, Jason       41 7 124[/COLOR]
1987 Barwick, Doug       35 Fi 7  116  67 25y 92d  47 16 Lockett, Tony         33 7 117
1986 Roach, Michael      35 Ri 7  520 161 27y213d  62 20 Taylor, Brian         21 5 100
1985 Roach, Michael      38 Ri 6  443 143 26y207d  80 17 Beasley, Simon        31 7  93
1984 Salmon, Paul        41 Es 7   55  16 19y113d  63 13 Quinlan, Bernie       26 7 102
1983 Jackson, Mark       33 St 7  185  48 23y250d  41 10 Quinlan, Bernie       32 7 106
[COLOR=blue]1982 Blight, Malcolm     34 NM 6  375 164 32y 81d 103 20 Blight, Malcolm       34 6  94[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1981 Roach, Michael      33 Ri 7  244  63 22y212d  86 21 Roach, Michael        33 7  86[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1980 Roach, Michael      35 Ri 7  134  38 21y214d 112 25 Roach, Michael        35 7 107[/COLOR]
1979 Blight, Malcolm     35 NM 6  202 110 29y 92d  60 19 Templeton, Kelvin     29 7  91
1978 Beecroft, Bob       36 Fi 7  112  41 26y122d  65 19 Templeton, Kelvin     34 7 118
     Moncrieff, Michael  36 Ha 7  342 135 25y267d  90 23
[COLOR=blue]1977 Hudson, Peter       35 Ha 7  652 112 31y 84d 110 24 Hudson, Peter         35 7  99[/COLOR]
1976 Moncrieff, Michael  40 Ha 7  241  86 23y270d  97 25 Donohue, Larry        33 7  99
1975 Sandilands, Laurie  25 WB 7  186 114 26y 17d  47 19 Matthews, Leigh       24 7  67
[COLOR=blue]1974 Wade, Doug          32 NM 7  939 235 32y214d 103 24 Wade, Doug            32 7  91[/COLOR]
1973 Roberts, Ken W.     23 Es 7   46  31 21y  6d  36 16 McKenna, Peter        19 5  84
[COLOR=blue]1972 McKenna, Peter      38 Co 7  565 119 25y260d 130 20 McKenna, Peter        38 7 130[/COLOR]
     Blethyn, Geoff      38 Es 7  108  54 21y198d 107 23
1971 McKenna, Peter      46 Co 7  439  97 24y261d 134 22 Hudson, Peter         35 7 140
1970 Jesaulenko, Alex    43 Ca 7  168  62 24y287d 115 25 Hudson, Peter         40 7 146
[COLOR=blue]1969 Wade, Doug          44 Ge 7  493 136 27y213d 127 21 Wade, Doug            44 7 122[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1968 Hudson, Peter       43 Ha 7  100  24 22y 96d 125 19 Hudson, Peter         43 7 125[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1967 Wade, Doug          38 Ge 7  327  96 25y223d  96 20 Wade, Doug            38 7  79[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1966 Fordham, Ted        26 Es 7  115  72 26y 32d  76 20 Fordham, Ted          26 7  73[/COLOR]
     Guinane, Paddy      26 Ri 7  125 107 27y124d  50 18
[COLOR=blue]1965 Peck, John          22 Ha 7  409 186 27y295d  56 18 Peck, John            22 7  56[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1964 Peck, John          32 Ha 7  351 169 26y297d  68 17 Peck, John            32 7  68[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1963 Peck, John          32 Ha 7  276 153 25y298d  75 16 Peck, John            32 7  69[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1962 Wade, Doug          28 Ge 7   79  23 20y231d  68 17 Wade, Doug            28 7  62[/COLOR]
1961 Dugdale, John       20 NM 7  193  93 25y 87d  47 17 Carroll, Tom          19 7  54
     McGowan, Brian      20 Sy 7  109  71 23y153d  38 18
[COLOR=blue]1960 Evans, Ron B.       24 Es 7  129  37 20y333d  67 18 Evans, Ron B.         24 7  67[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]1959 Evans, Ron B.       28 Es 7   55  17 19y334d  78 20 Evans, Ron B.         28 7  69[/COLOR]
1958 Ongarello, Tony     25 Fi 7  169  97 25y153d  53 18 Brewer, Ian           24 7  67
1957 Wooller, Fred       31 Ge 7   41  19 18y223d  56 15 Collins, Jack Charles 25 7  74
1956 Ongarello, Tony     23 Fi 7  121  65 23y156d  33 14 Young, Bill D.        10 5  56

Before 1956, the last player to lead the table with 23 goals or less was Richmond's George Bayliss in 1920.

highest leading total: 56, Bob Pratt, 1934
lowest leading total: 10, Teddy Lockwood, 1900
youngest player: 18y223d, Fred Wooller, 1957
oldest player: 33y224d, Gary Ablett snr, 1995