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Adelaide are now 4-0 at Gold Coast Stadium.

Adelaide have played 4 different opponents at Gold Coast Stadium.

Adelaide's four scores there are 110, 102, 102 and 100.

Port Adelaide have never played at Gold Coast Stadium.

Fremantle, like Adelaide, are undefeated at Gold Coast Stadium. Yet they have never won at the Gabba.

 

[UpForGrabs]

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28 players have kicked 100 or more goals in a season a total of 57 times.

Of those 57 times, only 8 times have been acheived by a player who didn't have at least one game where he kicked 10 or more goals;

Gary Ablett (1995) - 122
Lance Franklin (2008) - 113
Matthew Lloyd (2000) - 109
Larry Donohue (1976) - 105
Malcolm Blight (1982) - 103
Warwick Capper (1987) - 103
Doug Wade (1974) - 103
Jack Titus (1940) - 100

In 1974, when Doug Wade kicked 103 goals, the most he scored in a match was 8 Goals. This is the lowest season-high score of all century goalkickers and the only time this has occurred.

So from this we can gather that history has shown all full-forwards that unless they kick at least 8 goals in a game during some point of the season, they won't be able to crack the 100 goal mark.

 

[thequarry]

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St Kilda have been Minor Premiers twice. Both times they lost in the Grand Final.

And both times we lost the Grand Final to the team that finished 4th (Essendon in '65 and Adelaide in '97)...

 

[Riggy1]

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And both times we lost the Grand Final to the team that finished 4th (Essendon in '65 and Adelaide in '97)...

and after going through a ladder predictor that will be Adelaide

Wait, I had Geelong regaining 1st.

So you wont get lose to 4th

(BTW in the ladder predictor and finals predictor I have St Kilda (2nd) d Bulldogs (3rd) in the grand final)

 

[Ed_Gein]

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Sydney's Grand Final win was actually their first victory on the MCG in a final for over 60 years!

You mean 8 days. We beat St Kilda at the MCG in the Prelim the week before.

But yup, was probably 60 odd years prior to that.

 

[red+black]

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Congratulations to St Kilda winning their 18th game of the season, something they have never done before.

Another thing St Kilda has never done before is win 3 finals, which they will need to do to win the flag.

[B]        H & A  Finals   Season
        W L D   W L D    W L D[/B]
[COLOR="Blue"][B]2009[/B]   18 0 0   0 0 0   18 0 0[/COLOR]

[B]1971[/B]   16 6 0   1 2 0   17 8 0
[B]1997[/B]   15 7 0   2 1 0   17 8 0
[B]2004[/B]   16 6 0   1 2 0   17 8 0

[B]1966[/B]   14 4 0   2 1 0   16 5 0
[B]1972[/B]   14 8 0   2 1 0   16 9 0

[B]1965[/B]   14 4 0   1 1 0   15 5 0
[B]1970[/B]   14 8 0   1 1 0   15 9 0
[B]1992[/B]   14 8 0   1 1 0   15 9 0
[B]2005 [/B]  14 8 0   1 1 0   15 9 0

 

[red+black]

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Jade Rawlings is Richmond's caretaker coach for 11 games. How will he do? How will he compare to other short-lived coaches?

69 men have coached between 10 and 22 games.
- 1 has achieved a win rate of 80% or greater

Who was this man, and why wasn't his contracted extended!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Clymo

http://www.gfc.com.au/1931/tabid/9380/default.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Coghlan

Much like Alan Joyce in 1988, it looks like Charlie Clymo filled in for a season in place of Arthur Coghlan. I don't know why. Coghlan was captain-coach in 1929-30, making the grand final in 1930, albeit losing to Collingwood (their 4th on the trot). Perhaps he or the club thought it best he step down, and he did, from both posts. Rover Ted Baker became captain in 1931, while Charlie Clymo became coach, and Geelong won their 2nd premiership*.

Rumour is that Clymo was not an entirely popular fellow and that he was offered more money to go coach in the bush, which I presume he did. Geelong great Reg Hickey took over both captain and coaching roles in 1932, then in 1933, Coghlan who had retired as a player the previous year, resumed the coaching mantle while Hickey continued on as captain.

* Coincidentally, 1931 was the first time the McIntyre finals system was used.

Who was Charlie Clymo?

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/geelongs-other-charlie/2009/08/06/1249350637635.html

 

[X_box_X]

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You have to go back 22 years to find the last time a player kicked ten goals or more in a game for the Bulldogs.

10 goals kicked
Simon Beasley: Round 21, 1987 V Brisbane

Off the top of my head:
Adelaide: Modra
Brisbane: Brown
Carlton: Sticks
Collingwood: Sav
Essendon: Lloyd
Fremantle: None
Geelong: Ablett
Hawthorn: Dunstall
North: Carey
Melbourne: Lyon
Richmond: Richo
Port: None
St. Kilda: Lockett
Sydney: Lockett
West Coast: Summich

So there are only two teams who have failed to have a player kick ten goals since the 90s, and they are the two newest teams in the competition.

Going back 22 years is a hell of a long time to find the last player to score ten goals for a team in one match. I'm hoping Freo can continue to keep this streak alive in and go past this record in eight more years

 

[UpForGrabs]

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So there are only two teams who have failed to have a player kick ten goals since the 90s, and they are the two newest teams in the competition.

Going back 22 years is a hell of a long time to find the last player to score ten goals for a team in one match. I'm hoping Freo can continue to keep this streak alive in and go past this record in eight more years

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Tony Modra kicked 10.2 for Freo vs Melbourne in 1999!

Here's the game info.

Others;

Adelaide: Modra
Brisbane: Brown
Carlton: Sticks, SOS
Collingwood: Sav, Daicos
Essendon: Lloyd, Salmon
Fremantle: Modra
Geelong: Ablett, Brownless
Hawthorn: Dunstall, Brereton
North: Carey, Longmire
Melbourne: Lyon, Allen Jakovich
Richmond: Richo, Jeff Hogg
Port: None
St. Kilda: Lockett, Milne
Sydney: Lockett
West Coast: Sumich, Cummings

 

[ParaBellum]

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Interesting stat I just noticed is that the Shaw brothers are miles ahead of the pack on the number of bounces.
Rhyce has 134 and Heath has 92. The next best is Rodan on 68, and everyone else in the top 10 has 40 - 50.

 

[emuboy]

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Five football hard luck stories:

1. Rene Kink played in 4 losing and 1 drawn grand final without ever winning a premiership. The losses were for Collingwood (1977, 1979, 1980, 1981) and Essendon (1983). Kink was an Essendon player in 1984 & 1985 when the Bombers won premierships, but did not play in either game.

2. Derek Kickett played every game for Essendon in 1993, but was dropped from the (winning) Grand Final team. Kickett had previously played in the 1990 Essendon Grand Final team that was thrashed by Collingwood, and after leaving the Bombers played in Sydney's losing 1996 team. While playing in the WAFL in 1987, Kickett had topped the Sandover Medal poll by a huge margin, but missed out due to suspension.

3. Greg Tate played at Essendon in 1947-51, a very successful era for the Bombers. But while Tate played in the beaten 1947, 1948 & 1951 GF teams, he missed out on the 1949 & 1950 flags, getting injured in 1950 after playing every game of the season to this point!

4. Frank Tuck was a Collingwood player in the 1950s. He played in the beaten 1952, 1955 & 1956 Magpie GF teams, but missed out on the two Collingwood Premiership teams of this era - suspended in 1953 & injured in 1958.

5. Jeff Hogg & Darren Holmes were two talented players who certainly had no problems with missing Grand Finals. Hogg played 200 games for Richmond (1986-93) & Fitzroy (1994-96), all in bottom four teams, with four wooden spoons and two second last positions. Holmes played in five successive wooden spoon teams with Sydney (1992, 93, 94) & Fitzroy (1995, 96). Teamates at Fitzroy as the Lions struggled through their last days prior to the merger, their previous teams improved and climbed out of the bottom rungs of the ladder, while Fitzroy went from a competetive mid ladder team to a chopping block. An even more amazing coincidence further links their careers; in the Round 9 1992 match between Richmond & Sydney, Hogg and Holmes had an accidental collision, which saw both men stretchered from the MCG, with this game starting off a 26 game losing streak for the Swans! But it was an encounter with an entirely different type of hog that earned Holmes lasting fame - he was the player who caught a pig released onto the SCG in a Round 18 1993 match between Sydney and St Kilda!

 

[Bloods boy from the Bush]

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Five football hard luck stories:

1. Rene Kink played in 4 losing and 1 drawn grand final without ever winning a premiership. The losses were for Collingwood (1977, 1979, 1980, 1981) and Essendon (1983). Kink was an Essendon player in 1984 & 1985 when the Bombers won premierships, but did not play in either game.

Shouldn't that be 5 losing Grand Finals and a draw

 

[phantom13]

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Shouldn't that be 5 losing Grand Finals and a draw

77 was a draw and a loss, draw the first game came back the week after lost the replay.

 

[red+black]

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77 was a draw and a loss, draw the first game came back the week after lost the replay.

And as such:

1977 (draw), 1977 (loss), 1979 (loss), 1980 (loss), 1981 (loss), 1983 (loss)

As Blood said, 5 losing Grand Finals and a draw

 

[Swans120]

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Sydney's Grand Final win was actually their first victory on the MCG in a final for over 60 years!

Yeh...aside from the week before against St Kilda...

 

[MightyHawks]

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Collingwood hasn't beaten a Victorian team in a final since 1990.

Hawthorn v Fitzroy in 1991 sets the record for cumulative margin (126+157=283) and score (231+195=426).

Adelaide is the only unbeaten team in Grand Finals.

Hawthorn has easily the best strike rate of converting finals series appearances into premierships (10 from 27) of the original 12 clubs.

1994 finals series had 3 matches decided after the final siren. Ablett & Brownless both kicked after the siren goals, and Hawthorn v North went extra time.

 

[Bloods boy from the Bush]

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Adelaide is the only unbeaten team in Grand Finals.

Fremantle has never been beaten in Grand Final either.

 

[red+black]

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Melbourne had a 10 goal win today against Fremantle.

Number of 10 goals wins by Melbourne since 2000: 3.

 

[Ron The Bear]

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Fewest games per number of Grand Final appearances

GF Gms Player . . . . .Cb
-------------------------
11 426 Michael Tuck . .Ha
10 205 Albert Collier .Co
.9 188 Bill Hutchison .Es
.8 153 Brent Crosswell Ca 4,NM 4
.7 .99 Harold Lambert .Es
.6 .87 Harold Lambert .Es
.5 .59 Bert Harper . . Es
.4 .46 Daryl Sutton . .NM
.3 .21 Keith Batchelor Co
.2 . 3 Denis Cordner . Me
.1 . 1 Keith Batchelor Co
. . . .Billy James . . Ri
. . . .Harry Prout . . Es
. . . .George Rawle . .Es
. . . .Fred Vine . . . Me


Youngest players per number of Grand Final appearances

GF . Age . Player . . . . . Cb
------------------------------
11 38y 96d Michael Tuck . . Ha
10 30y 83d Albert Collier . Co
.9 28y154d Bill Hutchison . Es
.8 27y 40d Dermott Brereton Ha
.7 24y210d Ron Barassi . . .Me
.6 23y211d Ron Barassi . . .Me
.5 21y 94d Albert Collier . Co
.4 20y 81d Albert Collier . Co
.3 19y 77d Des Fothergill . Co
.2 18y 71d Des Fothergill . Co
.1 17y 72d Des Fothergill . Co

 

[red+black]

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With Essendon halting St Kilda's streak to 19 wins, slotting between Essendon's 20-0 in 2000 and Collingwood's 18-0 in 1929, how about those teams that always struggle to start the season off well:

- Adelaide's best start to a season: 4-0
- Port Adelaide's best start to a season: 3-0
- Fremantle's best start to a season: 2-0

And it's the non-Victorian clubs (together with Essendon and Carlton) that never start the season too badly:

- Port Adelaide's worst start to a season: 0-4
- West Coast's worst start to a season: 0-4
- Essendon's worst start to a season: 0-5
- Carlton's worst start to a season: 0-5
- Adelaide's worst start to a season: 0-5

Source: http://rogersresults.110mb.com/Rogers_Results/Tables/Best start.htm

 

[inthesong]

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Geelong is the only football club to have 3 coaches coach 100 games or more in a row.

Malcolm Blight 145
Gary Ayres 116
Mark Thompson 231

The next closest was Melbourne who had Balme fall 2 games short on 98.

 

[X_box_X]

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Premierships won by teams in years read normally and backwards:

Collingwood ('03, '30)
Carlton ('07, '70)
Essendon ('24, '42)
Geelong ('25, '52)
Collingwood ('35, '53)

 

[X_box_X]

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Today the quarter by quarter result in the Bulldogs and Magpies game:

Q1: Bulldogs win by 12 points
Q2: Quarter tied
Q3: Quarter tied
Q4: Bulldogs win by 12 points

Turn it upside down and it reads the same.

Also, check out this ladder from 2008-2009 if you take out first quarters.

# Team From To Pl W L D PF PA Score % Win %
1 W Bulldogs 2008 2009 47 34 13 0 4021 3254 123.57 72.34
2 Geelong 2008 2009 47 32 14 1 3964 2868 138.21 69.15
3 Hawthorn 2008 2009 47 31 16 0 3655 3212 113.79 65.96
4 Bris Lions 2008 2009 44 28 15 1 3255 3033 107.32 64.77
5 Collingwood 2008 2009 46 27 17 2 3580 3029 118.19 60.87
6 St Kilda 2008 2009 47 27 18 2 3433 2710 126.68 59.57
7 Carlton 2008 2009 44 25 19 0 3437 3409 100.82 56.82
8 Adelaide 2008 2009 45 25 20 0 3286 2866 114.65 55.56
9 Sydney 2008 2009 46 23 23 0 3164 3074 102.93 50.00
10 Port Adel 2008 2009 44 22 22 0 3056 3370 90.68 50.00
11 Essendon 2008 2009 44 20 23 1 3324 3620 91.82 46.59
12 Richmond 2008 2009 44 18 25 1 3056 3592 85.08 42.05
13 Nth Melb 2008 2009 45 15 29 1 2870 3353 85.59 34.44
14 West Coast 2008 2009 44 11 32 1 2687 3538 75.95 26.14
15 Fremantle 2008 2009 44 10 34 0 2721 3450 78.87 22.73
16 Melbourne 2008 2009 44 8 36 0 2586 3717 69.57 18.1

 

[stmookeyj]

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If you are into omen tipping then here's a couple for finals week 1.


- in their last 6 finals appearances Essendon has won in week 1 each time (defeated SYD 1999, NM 2000, RICH 2001, WC 2002, FREO 2003, MELB 2004). The last 3 instances saw them lose in week 2 each time.

- in the previous 4 seasons where Geelong have beaten the Bulldogs during the finals they went on to LOSE that year's Grand Final (1992 QF & PF, 1994 QF, 1995 QF, 2008 PF). The cats have a 6 match finals winning streak over the dogs having also won the 1976 Elimination Final.

- Dustin Fletcher is the sole survivor from the most recent Essendon vs Adelaide finals meeting (1993 PF)

- 3 listed Lions played the last time they met Carlton at the Gabba in a final, a venue where no away side has been triumphant in finals (Black, Power, Notting were the players. Brisbane beat ESS/CARL 1996, CARL/WB 1999, WB 2000, PORT/RICH 2001, ADEL/PORT 2002, ADEL 2003, ST.K 2004)

 

[red+black]

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Today the quarter by quarter result in the Bulldogs and Magpies game:

Q1: Bulldogs win by 12 points
Q2: Quarter tied
Q3: Quarter tied
Q4: Bulldogs win by 12 points

Turn it upside down and it reads the same.

Actually, it was:

Q1: Quarter tied
Q2: Bulldogs win by 12 points
Q3: Quarter tied
Q4: Bulldogs win by 12 points

And use CODE tags if you want us to make soms sense of your ladder bit.