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Round 4 2012:

50% of Gold Coast's matches have been 10 goal or more losses.

 Carlton's recorded attendances passed the 60 million mark.

 Of 138 teams that won their first 4 matches of the season, Essendon's percentage of 120.85 ranks 132nd.

West Coast's 5.21 is the 2nd worst goal/behind ratio from 26 scoring shots ever recorded.

Hawthorn and West Coast broke a badness record for scoring that had stood since 1919.

Melbourne's record after 4 matches ranks 111th from their 113 results from the first 4 matches in a season.

Sydney/SM's score is the lowest highest score of the round since 2003.


Details and more here or here.


 
At Round 4:

Gold Coast and GWS have lost all their first quarters.
Sydney and West Coast have won all of theirs.

Hawthorn have won all their 2nd quarters.
Richmond have lost all of theirs.

Fremantle and West Coast have won all their 3rd quarters.
Geelong and GWS has lost all of theirs.

Carlton have won all their last quarters.
Collingwood and Gold Coast have lost all of theirs.

Geelong have only won 6 quarters.
West Coast have won 14.

Collingwood have only won 1 of their last 11 final quarters -
the preliminary final v Hawthorn.
 

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RogersResults said:
At Round 4:

Gold Coast and GWS have lost all their first quarters.
Sydney and West Coast have won all of theirs.

Hawthorn have won all their 2nd quarters.
Richmond have lost all of theirs.

Fremantle and West Coast have won all their 3rd quarters.
Geelong and GWS has lost all of theirs.

Carlton have won all their last quarters.
Collingwood and Gold Coast have lost all of theirs.

Geelong have only won 6 quarters.
West Coast have won 14.

Collingwood have only won 1 of their last 11 final quarters -
the preliminary final v Hawthorn.
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Wow. Previous to this they were known as 'last quarter specialists'. What was their record (including percentage) in the period before this?

PS. Interesting to note you use the plural form of 'to have' for teams/clubs.
 
SJ said:
Wow. Previous to this they were known as 'last quarter specialists'. What was their record (including percentage) in the period before this?

PS. Interesting to note you use the plural form of 'to have' for teams/clubs.
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Collingwood have scored 163 points and conceded 302 points in the last 11 final quarters - a percentage of 53.97%

In the previous 11 final quarters Collingwood won 8, lost 3 and scored 408 points and conceded 145 points - a percentage of 281.38%.

You would except this would be the source of some head scratching at the club.

As for the plural, it depends whether you regard a football club as a collection of individual humans or a singular "thing". Corporations and governments tend to hide behind the singular as if their actions were not the actions of individual people. (Although the U.S. Supreme Court has recently ruled that corporations are "people".)
 
ozprogambler said:
Fellow stats freaks, love it.

I just talk stats all day (obsessed with sports investment.

Looks like I'll have a few posts to look at here.
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The bookmakers salivate at the thought of gamblers with "systems".

Sports "Investment" says it all - pathetic.

Anyone who thinks that the odds can be beaten by having the right "statistics" is a fool or someone touting for fools.

Anything that I post here is for entertainment value only. It is not to be taken in any shape or form as a guide to betting on the results of matches.

Beware anyone who claims otherwise.

"Punting" forum is here

Gamblers Anonymous is here

AFL should kick its gambling addiction


 
Final quarters - Last 12 matches. (Including Anzac Day match.)

Code: 
              W   L   D   W%       
West Coast   10   2   0   83.3        
Carlton       9   2   1   79.2        
St Kilda      8   4   0   66.7        
Adelaide      7   5   0   58.3        
Fremantle     7   5   0   58.3        
Geelong       7   5   0   58.3        
Richmond      6   4   2   58.3        
Sydney        7   5   0   58.3        
Nth Melbourne 6   5   1   54.2        
Hawthorn      6   6   0   50.0        
Essendon      5   6   1   45.8        
Gold Coast    5   7   0   41.7        
West.Bulldogs 5   7   0   41.7        
Brisbane      4   8   0   33.3        
Port Adelaide 3   9   0   25.0 
Melbourne     1  10   1   12.5        
Collingwood   1  11   0    8.3
The only last quarter won by Collingwood was the preliminary final.
 
Geelong - quarters won/lost/drawn first 4 matches.
Last 10 seasons:

2003 .7-9-0
2004 .8-8-0
2005 .8-8-0
2006 11-4-1
2007 11-5-0
2008 13-3-0
2009 10-5-1
2010 10-6-0
2011 12-3-1
2012 .6-10-0

For and against percentage - individual quarters 2012 - compared:

Geelong's 1st quarter for and against percentage is currently their lowest since 1982.

Geelong's 2nd quarter percentage is their lowest since 2006 but only 0.1% lower than 2010.

Geelong's 3rd quarter percentage is their lowest since 1983.

Geelong's last quarter percentage is their highest since 1992 except for 2010 and 2011.


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RogersResults said:
The bookmakers salivate at the thought of gamblers with "systems".

Sports "Investment" says it all - pathetic.

Anyone who thinks that the odds can be beaten by having the right "statistics" is a fool or someone touting for fools.

Anything that I post here is for entertainment value only. It is not to be taken in any shape or form as a guide to betting on the results of matches.

Beware anyone who claims otherwise.

"Punting" forum is here

Gamblers Anonymous is here

AFL should kick its gambling addiction
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Pretty big whack there...

it works for a few of us :thumbsu:
 
Observed in Round 5 2012:


  • The League’s 14,000th match.

  • Collingwood’s average score decrease in their last 9 matches from 125.3 points in the previous 9 matches to 80.3 points..

  • Geelong’s first 3rd quarter win this year.

  • Carlton’s lowest winning score v Fremantle.

  • The equal most behinds scored by Nth Melbourne to ¾ time.

  • Melbourne’s 184,000th point.

  • The first time Geelong has held an opponent goalless in the first half since keeping Brisbane goalless to half-time in 2007.

  • Hawthorn’s third scoreless quarter in the last 3 seasons.

Details and more here or here.
 

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Darren Glass closing on 100 consecutive goalless matches (98 at present). Only four players have 'achieved' this in the past 30 years - Simon Prestigiacomo, Leo Barry, Shane Wakelin and Jamie Shanahan. 90 players have done it in all, and Footscray's Wally Donald did it twice, kicking one career goal in match #102 of 205.
 
Ron The Bear said:
Darren Glass closing on 100 consecutive goalless matches (98 at present). Only four players have 'achieved' this in the past 30 years - Simon Prestigiacomo, Leo Barry, Shane Wakelin and Jamie Shanahan. 90 players have done it in all, and Footscray's Wally Donald did it twice, kicking one career goal in match #102 of 205.
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Remarkable in a time where the club doctor while they are attending to a player on the ground during a match is about the only one not able to kick a goal.
 
Percentage of matches decided by under 2 goals.

2003 17.84
2004 21.62
2005 21.62
2006 21.62
2007 18.92
2008 20.00
2009 20.54
2010 22.58
2011 19.90
2012 20.00

Percentage of matches decided by more than the average winning margin 2003-2012 R5. (35 points.)

2003 42.70
2004 45.41
2005 39.46
2006 41.08
2007 31.89
2008 40.54
2009 42.16
2010 45.16
2011 46.43
2012 46.67

Percentage of matches won by the team trailing at 1/4 time.

2003 30.27
2004 32.97
2005 30.27
2006 32.97
2007 28.65
2008 30.81
2009 29.73
2010 24.19
2011 33.67
2012 22.22


Percentage of matches won by the team trailing at 1/2 time.

2003 21.08
2004 16.22
2005 22.16
2006 18.38
2007 18.38
2008 23.78
2009 20.00
2010 19.35
2011 24.49
2012 15.56

Percentage of matches won by the team trailing at 3/4 time.

2003 10.81
2004 9.73
2005 15.68
2006 11.89
2007 10.27
2008 15.68
2009 9.19
2010 11.29
2011 13.78
2012 11.11
 
Ron The Bear said:
Darren Glass closing on 100 consecutive goalless matches (98 at present). Only four players have 'achieved' this in the past 30 years - Simon Prestigiacomo, Leo Barry, Shane Wakelin and Jamie Shanahan. 90 players have done it in all, and Footscray's Wally Donald did it twice, kicking one career goal in match #102 of 205.
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I had always thought when I first saw the list of players with most games for only one goal that Wally Donald kicked his only goal in exactly his 100th game. (Of course, the game in which he kicked that goal is memorable for being one of only three games played in a rural location during the “National Day Round” which was spoiled by record rainfall in southern Australia. It was also St. Kilda’s only win until the final round when they upset finalist Fitzroy).
 
In Round 6 2012:


  • Collingwood won their 2nd last quarter in 13 matches.
  • Brisbane lost their 32nd match from their last 40 matches.
  • Geelong broke a club record standing since 1938.
  • Gold Coast scored the equal 2nd highest score from 17 scoring shots
  • Hawthorn had their first consecutive win against St Kilda in over a decade.
  • The 333rd match was played at the Sydney Cricket Ground (1903-2012)
  • GWS became the first team ever to lose their first 6 matches by 40 points or more.
  • Port Adelaide gave up a 'least worst' status to Adelaide.
  • The biggest difference in behinds at 3/4 time where both teams has scored the same number of goals each quarter was recorded.

    Details and more here or here
 

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red+black said:
Well I never knew the SCG hosted games in 1903!!!
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I was thinking some may not realise that when I added the dates.

Collingwood and Fitzroy, Geelong and Carlton played there for Premiership points in 1903 as did Melbourne and Essendon in 1904.

Collingwood and Richmond in 1952 and then the next was Nth Melbourne and Hawthorn in 1979.

There were 12 match played at the SCG for Premiership points before Sth Melbourne relocated there in 1982.

Collingwood, Geelong and Richmond all played 3 matches at the SCG before the Swans did.
 
RogersResults said:
  • GWS became the first team ever to lose their first 6 matches by 40 points or more.
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It will be interesting to see whether Greater Western Sydney become the first team to fail to win a game in a season for 48 years? People have thought it likely for a long time, but apart from St. Kilda in late 1984 and early 1985 it is tough to find a parallel. They have lost their six games by an average of 71.33 points and have scored only forty-five goals in six games. At that rate they would score only 165 goals in a full season, whcih with an equivalent number of behinds would be a total of about 1,155 points for a full season. No team has scored so few since Footscray in the 18-game 1967 season scored 1,060, and with the four extra games Greater Western Sydney's present attack would be equivalent to scoring only 945 points in 18 games. No team has scored that few since St. Kilda scored only 861 in 1955, and before that the 1920 Saints who scored only 819 points in 16 games, equivalent to 1,126 in a 22-game season.

One wonders also if the AFL thinks that an uneven competition in which the consistently successful teams are hated or loved and attract so much attention is actually better financially than an even competition where this is less likely?
RogersResults said:
  • The biggest difference in behinds at 3/4 time where both teams has scored the same number of goals each quarter was recorded.
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Notable record, since cases of teams leading by large numbers of behinds have beomce increasingly rare in recent decades with improved accuracy. What is the biggest lead at three-quarter time in just behinds regardless of the number of goals kicked and quarter-time and half-time?
 

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