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Catsace said:
Would have to be some sort of record 'breakout' as a goalscorer in terms of getting 66.7% of his career's total in one fell swoop.
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Biggest career tally improvements, minimum 6 goals/50 games:

Code: 
% Imprv Player            Cb Ma#  G CG Year Rd Op
--------------------------------------------------
275.00% Hellings, Doug    Fi  53  7  4 1968  9 Ha
100.00% Gotz, Martin      Ca  56  6  6 1909 16 Ri
 87.50% Fricker, Pat      Co  51  7  8 1941  5 Me
 66.67% Taylor, Harry     Ge 100  6  9 2012 10 GWS
 60.00% Howell, Verdun    St 118  9 15 1965 10 Ha
 54.55% Gallagher, Fred   Es  63  6 11 1957  5 Sy
 54.55% Gallagher, Fred   Es  66 12 22 1957  8 Ge
 54.55% Grant, Jack W.    Ge  69  6 11 1940  2 Co
 50.00% Lester-Smith, Rod Ha  52  6 12 1986 16 Me
 47.06% Twomey, Bill J.   Co  72  8 17 1948 44 WB
 46.15% Reynolds, Keenan  WB  50  6 13 1993  9 St
 42.86% Goldsmith, Fred   Sy  75  6 14 1956 18 NM
 40.00% Sziller, Steven   St  65  6 15 1998 10 Sy
 40.00% MacLure, Mark     Ca  56  6 15 1977  5 Sy

Check out Fred Gallagher - twice in the space of four games.

A couple of noted full backs/Brownlow winners present in Goldsmith & Howell.
 
Interesting that we dub the third quarter "the premiership quarter"

Yet this year so far, the best 4 third quarter records are, in reverse order.

Fremantle 7-3
Richmond 7-3
St Kilda 7-3
Port Adelaide 8-2

All are outside the 8.

Noted that Sydney and West Cosst can join the 7-3 club tomorrow.
 
Ron The Bear said:
Biggest career tally improvements, minimum 6 goals/50 games:

Code: 
% Imprv Player            Cb Ma#  G CG Year Rd Op
--------------------------------------------------
275.00% Hellings, Doug    Fi  53  7  4 1968  9 Ha
100.00% Gotz, Martin      Ca  56  6  6 1909 16 Ri
 87.50% Fricker, Pat      Co  51  7  8 1941  5 Me
 66.67% Taylor, Harry     Ge 100  6  9 2012 10 GWS
 60.00% Howell, Verdun    St 118  9 15 1965 10 Ha
 54.55% Gallagher, Fred   Es  63  6 11 1957  5 Sy
 54.55% Gallagher, Fred   Es  66 12 22 1957  8 Ge
 54.55% Grant, Jack W.    Ge  69  6 11 1940  2 Co
 50.00% Lester-Smith, Rod Ha  52  6 12 1986 16 Me
 47.06% Twomey, Bill J.   Co  72  8 17 1948 44 WB
 46.15% Reynolds, Keenan  WB  50  6 13 1993  9 St
 42.86% Goldsmith, Fred   Sy  75  6 14 1956 18 NM
 40.00% Sziller, Steven   St  65  6 15 1998 10 Sy
 40.00% MacLure, Mark     Ca  56  6 15 1977  5 Sy

Check out Fred Gallagher - twice in the space of four games.

A couple of noted full backs/Brownlow winners present in Goldsmith & Howell.
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R.T.B, you are amazing with your ability to produce a stat for all occasions! Indeed Gallagher to boot 6 and 12 goals in two games...he must have been a frustrated backman as he'd kicked just one goal in the previous three seasons up to 1957. Verdun Howell...amazing to kick 9 goals as a full forward in one game as he was an iconic full back.

Interesting to see this also shows Marc MacLure's breakout game as a powerful scoring CHF...not sure if he was playing in the backline up till that match in 1977 but he wound up with 327 goals in a great career with the Blues, with flags in 1979, 81 and 1982.
 
Ron The Bear said:
Biggest career tally improvements, minimum 6 goals/50 games:

Code: 
% Imprv Player            Cb Ma#  G CG Year Rd Op
--------------------------------------------------
275.00% Hellings, Doug    Fi  53  7  4 1968  9 Ha
100.00% Gotz, Martin      Ca  56  6  6 1909 16 Ri
 87.50% Fricker, Pat      Co  51  7  8 1941  5 Me
 66.67% Taylor, Harry     Ge 100  6  9 2012 10 GWS
 60.00% Howell, Verdun    St 118  9 15 1965 10 Ha
 54.55% Gallagher, Fred   Es  63  6 11 1957  5 Sy
 54.55% Gallagher, Fred   Es  66 12 22 1957  8 Ge
 54.55% Grant, Jack W.    Ge  69  6 11 1940  2 Co
 50.00% Lester-Smith, Rod Ha  52  6 12 1986 16 Me
 47.06% Twomey, Bill J.   Co  72  8 17 1948 44 WB
 46.15% Reynolds, Keenan  WB  50  6 13 1993  9 St
 42.86% Goldsmith, Fred   Sy  75  6 14 1956 18 NM
 40.00% Sziller, Steven   St  65  6 15 1998 10 Sy
 40.00% MacLure, Mark     Ca  56  6 15 1977  5 Sy
Check out Fred Gallagher - twice in the space of four games.

A couple of noted full backs/Brownlow winners present in Goldsmith & Howell.
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What about Ben Graham in 1999?
 

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Catsace said:
Interesting to note as well, the Cats/Giants game saw the scores tied at both 1/4 time and 1/2 time....not something that would happen everyday...4.2.26 and 7.3.45 respectively.
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Expect to Geelong - 3 times in the last 9 seasons for the Cats out of a League total of 12 in 116 seasons. (9 times with goal and behind tallies the same.)

Round 11, 2004: (The exact same goal and behind tally one.)
Geelong .........4.2 7.3
WB/Footscray 4.2 7.3

See RogersResults for details later this evening.
 
Expect this one has been done, but am I correct in saying an AFL Grand Final has never finished with both sides on the same tally of goals and behinds for the game? Three draws but I'm pretty sure on each occasion the two sides had different goal/behind make-ups.
 
Tarkyn_24 said:
Expect this one has been done, but am I correct in saying an AFL Grand Final has never finished with both sides on the same tally of goals and behinds for the game? Three draws but I'm pretty sure on each occasion the two sides had different goal/behind make-ups.
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The eventual premiers in the drawn grand final.

1948 Melbourne 15 fewer scoring shots.
1977 Nth Melbourne 5 more scoring shots.
2010 Collingwood 5 more scoring shots.
 
Last time teams won 2 premierships within a 3 year window:

2009-11 Geelong
2002-03 Brisbane
1997-98 Adelaide
1992-94 West Coast
1989-91 Hawthorn
1984-85 Essendon
1981-82 Carlton
1975-77 North Melbourne
1973-74 Richmond
1959-60 Melbourne
1935-36 Collingwood (chance to erase this record this year)
1904-05 Fitzroy
 
Observed in Round 10 2012:


  • Only the 4th time in their last 115 matches that St Kilda have played a match where both teams scored a century.
  • One of only 6 matches where each team scored at least 6 goals each in the 2nd and last quarters:
  • The 4 millionth recorded attendance at a Richmond v St Kilda match.
  • The 2nd time that Geelong have scored 12.9 to 2.4 in the 2nd half.
  • Geelong having tied 1st and 2nd quarters every 4 years since 2004.
  • Hawthorn repeating a feat they first achieved in 1931 against the same opponent.
  • Attendances at Adelaide v Fremantle matches are now 31,336 short of 1 million.
  • The lowest aggregate score at a Melbourne v Essendon match for nearly 40 years.
  • Port Adelaide beat Carlton in all 4 quarters for the first time this century.
  • Brisbane's narrowest win against West Coast.
  • The first consecutive win by more that six goals by the home team since the two teams playing were somebody else.
  • Gold Coast's highest attendance and Collingwood's 649th highest recorded attendance.

    Details and more here or here.
 
I believe Melbourne d. Essendon is the first instance of a team losing to another team more than 15 places below them on the ladder. We've had 16 d. 1 before but never 17 or 18 d. 1 or 2
 

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red+black said:
I believe Melbourne d. Essendon is the first instance of a team losing to another team more than 15 places below them on the ladder. We've had 16 d. 1 before but never 17 or 18 d. 1 or 2
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Even more bizarrely, if Brisbane had been able to score three more points (or West Coast four fewer), then Essendon would have risen to the top of the ladder despite losing to the bottom side. Reckon we'll ever see that? Rising to the top after a loss this late in the season is rare enough (but I don't have the exact number of occurrences here)
 
RogersResults said:
Observed in Round 10 2012:


  • The first consecutive win by more that six goals by the home team since the two teams playing were somebody else.
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Michael/RR (or anyone) can you please explain what is meant by this. I've looked at it a few times since last night and just can't figure it out!
 
35Daicos said:
Michael/RR (or anyone) can you please explain what is meant by this. I've looked at it a few times since last night and just can't figure it out!

Ah, I presume you mean Sydney vs Western Bulldogs. Sorry, the brains a bit slow on Mondays!
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Sydney/SM's 2nd consecutive win v WB/Footscray by more than 6 goals for the first time since 1981.

Round 18 2011 won by 39 points
Round 10 2012 won by 92 points

Round 5 1981 won by 62 points
Round 15 1981 won by 63 points.

When the Sydney Swans and Western Bulldogs were yet to come.
(No old-fashioned consecutive 6 goal 'thrashings' in between.)
 
RogersResults said:
Sydney/SM's 2nd consecutive win v WB/Footscray by more than 6 goals for the first time since 1981.

Round 18 2011 won by 39 points
Round 10 2012 won by 92 points

Round 5 1981 won by 62 points
Round 15 1981 won by 63 points.

When the Sydney Swans and Western Bulldogs were yet to come.
(No old-fashioned consecutive 6 goal 'thrashings' in between.)
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Thanks for the reply. I think what confused me even after I'd figured out which clubs you were talking about was the mention of "by the home team" as I assumed you were referring only to Sydney home games, yet I could see they had already won their previous 2 home clashes by 6 goals +.
 

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In the Herald-Sun today on page 78, Rod Nicholson has written that in the last ten rounds, the only teams Richmond will play who are in finals contention are Carlton, Essendon and Port Adelaide. Am I in the minority in thinking Port are no chance of being a finals contender? And what makes Port a contender and not Brisbane Lions, whose percentage is only 4.2 lesser?
 
worbod said:
In the Herald-Sun today on page 78, Rod Nicholson has written that in the last ten rounds, the only teams Richmond will play who are in finals contention are Carlton, Essendon and Port Adelaide. Am I in the minority in thinking Port are no chance of being a finals contender? And what makes Port a contender and not Brisbane Lions, whose percentage is only 4.2 lesser?
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There are 4 teams 0n 4-6.
Since the introduction of the final 8 on eight occasions have teams on 4-6 made the finals (including two in 1997.) Forty-two on 4-6 missed the finals (84%).

So the chance is there. An analysis of who plays who when might reveal whose chances if any were better. I take it Nicholson's article didn't provide any such analysis.

In 1999 Port Adelaide got in after being 4-6 with a percentage of 90.1. They got in by winning 8 of their last 12 matches including a surprise win over 2nd placed Essendon by 6 goals at Football Park - the Bombers only loss in 14 matches. (The week before Port had just managed to hold off last placed Collingwood for a 1 point win.) Port also still only finished with a percentage of 90.1 - the lowest percentage so far of any team to make the final 8.

Still lots of possibilities this year.
 
Percentage of matches played that were wins against teams placed in the top 8 at the time of the match by teams placed outside of the top 8. (Last 10 seasons. First round excluded.)

2012: 17.3% (to R10)
2011: 10.1%
2010: 13.1%
2009: 16.7%
2008: 14.3%
2007: 19.6%
2006: 14.9%
2005: 19.6%
2004: 14.9%
2003: 15.5%

Highest percentage since the introduction of the final 8 in 1994.

1997: 24.4%.
 

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