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In the 1976 & 1978 seasons the Swans kicked their 4th highest and 2nd highest ever scores against Geelong... and lost both matches.
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The Swans didn't mind kicking big losing scores in those days. I remember being at the MCG in 1979 to see South kick 24.10 (154) in a losing score against Melbourne. A very exciting last quarter with game ebbing and flowing before the Demons pulled away. Those were the days! It will be 40 years ago on Sunday week.
 
That Geelong/South game's half time score in 1978 was an astounding 18.3.111 to 14.3.87!

1978 of course was the era of some huge aggregate scores, Rd 2 was Lions/Dees 157-167, Rd 6 was the all-time high aggregate of 345 points with St.K 204-141 over the Dees again, then in Rd 13 it was Templeton's 15 goals leading the Dogs to a 213-106 win over St.Kilda, and that Geelong/Sth Melb game 167-155 was in Rd 20. Four 300+ aggregate games that season, and the Dees featured in another high scoring loss in Rd 22 against the Pies, 156-125.

Nowadays it seems some matches this season might require about a dozen quarters to threaten a 300-point aggregate.

Paradoxically, Geelong's highest scores have chiefly come in the last 30-odd years. A score of 29.10.184 against the Lions in 1987 finally saw Geelong cross the 180 point Rubicon, and from '89 onwards and i guess up to 2011 with the 37.11.233 game against the Dees, Geelong has probably scored 20 or so games above that mark since '87. Up until the late 80's, Geelong had probably the lowest 'high score' of any side up to that point.
 

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That Geelong/South game's half time score in 1978 was an astounding 18.3.111 to 14.3.87!

1978 of course was the era of some huge aggregate scores, Rd 2 was Lions/Dees 157-167, Rd 6 was the all-time high aggregate of 345 points with St.K 204-141 over the Dees again, then in Rd 13 it was Templeton's 15 goals leading the Dogs to a 213-106 win over St.Kilda, and that Geelong/Sth Melb game 167-155 was in Rd 20. Four 300+ aggregate games that season, and the Dees featured in another high scoring loss in Rd 22 against the Pies, 156-125.

Nowadays it seems some matches this season might require about a dozen quarters to threaten a 300-point aggregate.

Paradoxically, Geelong's highest scores have chiefly come in the last 30-odd years. A score of 29.10.184 against the Lions in 1987 finally saw Geelong cross the 180 point Rubicon, and from '89 onwards and i guess up to 2011 with the 37.11.233 game against the Dees, Geelong has probably scored 20 or so games above that mark since '87. Up until the late 80's, Geelong had probably the lowest 'high score' of any side up to that point.
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Back then the game was exciting - players played in their proper positions - no 20 players on the ball - rugby mauls - thus plenty of goals could be kicked

In the early 90s i used to 2-3 long weekends a year i use to catch the train from Sydney down to Melb on a Friday night - obviously i would go to the Geel game - but i would go to 2 other games - i can remember going to a W/Bulldogs v Eagles game at the Western oval - a Coll v Frem game at Vic Park - i would just roll up - pay my money at the gate - and you got an exciting entertaining game - great way to spend an afternoon - i couldnt get enough of it

Nowadays - there is no way i would do that - you still follow your team - but i am luke warm to AFL - because of the dour low scoring roaming rugby pack games
 
Adelaide's 95-point demolition of the hapless Gold Coast Suns at Carrara tonight was the Crows' 13th straight win over this team, and makes the Crows the only team the Suns have not beaten in what is now their 9th season.

And just once in that time have the Suns got within 5 goals of the Crows, with a 28 point loss in 2013. The Adelaide victories over the Gold Coast in that time in chronological order have been by 57, 61, 69, 91, 28, 32, 41, 45, 75, 67, 48, 73 & 95 points.

Talk about a bogey team. I wonder if any Suns players have nightmares about navy blue, red and gold jumpers?
 
Gold Coast Suns will miss the finals for the ninth straight year in 2019. This means Gold Coast will have the longest wait of the non-Victorian expansion teams to make its first finals appearance.

West Coast set the benchmark, making the finals in its second season in 1988. Both Adelaide (1993) and Port Adelaide (1999) played finals in their third season. GWS played finals in its fifth season in 2016 (The Swans also played finals in their fifth season after relocating to Sydney). Brisbane Bears played finals in its ninth season (1995) as did Fremantle in 2003.

We will have to wait to see if Gold Coast take as long for its first finals appearance as the 1925 expansion clubs. Footscray took 14 seasons until 1938, North Melbourne 21 seasons until 1945 and Hawthorn a whopping 33 seasons until 1957.
 
Not sure if it's been mentioned... with 48 games (23%) of the season remaining, no side has won by 100 points.

Last time this happened was 1973. In all 45 completed seasons since, a 100-point result has occurred by Round 17 at the latest.

38 completed seasons did not produce a 100-point result, including 23 of the first 29.
 
Rhyce Shaw's first proper win as Norf coach happened last night.

Norf won by 22 points.
Rhyce wore No. 22 at Collingwood.

Last night's combined score was 150.
Norf turn 150 years old this season.
150th birthday celebrations are happening tonight as they unveil their top 150 players in club history.

Half of 150 is 75.
1975 was Norf's first VFL/AFL premiership year.

Forgot to mention, Rhyce wore No. 02 at Sydney.

22 x 2 = 44.

44 points was Dean Laidley's last margin as senior coach 10 years ago. (Adelaide won 68-24.)

44 points was also Rhyce's first winning margin as coach vs his first side Collingwood.
 
This was just after Will Snelling's first game with Essendon vs Adelaide.

Shameless Twitter plug by me but don't care.

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A little stats thread about Essendon's first game Will Snelling in R18 2019 (vs Adelaide) who also played a game for Port Adelaide vs Gold Coast.

02:

Both wins were outside Victoria.
Both games involved both South Australian sides.
Both games resulted in a win for Will Snelling.

This is the 2 part introduction to those stats.

Let the thread commence.

03:

Essendon win by 21 points to move to 40 points on the ladder.

First gamer Will Snelling wears No. 40.

His first game (PA vs GC R23 2016) resulted in a 23 point win.

23 + 21 = 44.

Half of 4 is 2.
Half of 2 is 1.

1 game for PA, 1 goal.
1 game for ESS, 1 goal.

04:

First VFLM/AFLM game for Will, 6 kicks, 9 handballs, 15 touches.

First VFLM/AFLM game for his 2nd club, 5 kicks, 10 handballs, 15 touches.

1/2 Time margin in PA/GC game, 21 point lead to PA.
1/2 Time margin in ADEL/ESS game, 19 point lead to ADEL.

That's a 40 point swing.

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Will Snelling, like I said, wears No. 40 for Essendon.

His first goal for Port Adelaide gave them a 21 point lead.
His first goal for Essendon gave them a score of 21.

Combined score as of Will's first career VFLM/AFLM goal, 137.
For Will's first ESS VFLM/AFLM goal, 44.

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137 + 44 = 181.

RD pick = 10.
MSD pick = 7.

10 x 7 = 70.
181 - 70 = 111.
111 / 3 = 37. (The 3 = time in years equating roughly between senior games.)

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Double 37 and you have 74.

40 (Snelling's Essendon number) + 34 (his Port Adelaide number) = 74.

Port Adelaide's highest lead vs Gold Coast in Snelling's debut game = 39 points.
Gold Coast's highest lead in same game, 8 points.

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Adelaide's highest lead vs Essendon, 30 points.
Essendon's highest lead in same game, 21 points.

30 + 21 = 51.

51 reversed is 15.

Double 15 and you have 30.
30 = his total disposal tally.

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Remember, he's played 1 game for Port Adelaide and 1 game for Essendon.

30 - 1 = 29.

The difference in height between Snelling and the guy who wore No. 34 before Will.
Jarrad Redden.

10:

There's also a 29 kilo difference between Redden and Snelling. (104 vs 75.)

11:

A partially tired brain dump but numbers follow me and they seem to follow Snelling too.

Part 11 is done and so is the thread.

Anything I've missed, overlooked or misquoted?

P.S. Will Snelling was the 4th West Adelaide player drafted by a VFLM/AFLM club at 2015's end.
 

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If the 2019 Grand Final is Brisbane vs. Geelong, Geelong vs. GWS or GWS vs. Brisbane, it will be the first time in history that there has been no repeat Grand Finalists in four successive seasons. There has been a number of times that there has been six different Grand Finalists in three years as below, but never eight different Grand Finalists in four seasons:

1944 Fitzroy vs. Richmond, 1945 Carlton vs. South Melbourne, 1946 Essendon vs. Melbourne
1960 Melbourne vs. Collingwood, 1961 Hawthorn vs. Footscray, 1962 Essendon vs. Carlton
1962 Essendon vs. Carlton, 1963 Geelong vs. Hawthorn, 1964 Melbourne vs. Collingwood
1963 Geelong vs. Hawthorn, 1964 Melbourne vs. Collingwood, 1965 Essendon vs. St Kilda
1995 Carlton vs. Geelong, 1996 North Melbourne vs. Sydney, 1997 Adelaide vs. St Kilda
2015 Hawthorn vs. West Coast, 2016 Western Bulldogs vs. Sydney, 2017 Richmond vs. Adelaide
2016 Western Bulldogs vs. Sydney, 2017 Richmond vs. Adelaide, 2018 West Coast vs. Collingwood
 
It's not a laughing matter because, A, I originally did it on Twitter, B, it was a copy and paste and, C, 280 characters kinda restrain you.
 
This year will be the first time that all three feline teams - the Geelong Cats, Richmond Tigers and Brisbane or Fitzroy Lions have contested the same finals series. Geelong, Richmond and Brisbane were in the same finals series in 1995, but was this was the Brisbane Bears not the Brisbane Lions.
 

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emuboy said:
This year will be the first time that all three feline teams - the Geelong Cats, Richmond Tigers and Brisbane or Fitzroy Lions have contested the same finals series. Geelong, Richmond and Brisbane were in the same finals series in 1995, but was this was the Brisbane Bears not the Brisbane Lions.
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On a similar theme, since Adelaide joined the competition in 1991, there have been two seasons in which all five avian teams have contested the same finals series, in 2007 and 2012. In 2012 they actually finished in all top five positions of the home and away ladder: Hawks, Crows, Swans, Magpies, Eagles.
 
RedmanWasHere said:
Rhyce Shaw's first proper win as Norf coach happened last night.

Norf won by 22 points.
Rhyce wore No. 22 at Collingwood.

Last night's combined score was 150.
Norf turn 150 years old this season.
150th birthday celebrations are happening tonight as they unveil their top 150 players in club history.

Half of 150 is 75.
1975 was Norf's first VFL/AFL premiership year.

Forgot to mention, Rhyce wore No. 02 at Sydney.

22 x 2 = 44.

44 points was Dean Laidley's last margin as senior coach 10 years ago. (Adelaide won 68-24.)

44 points was also Rhyce's first winning margin as coach vs his first side Collingwood.
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How long did it take you to work all that out lol🤔
 
Brisbane will play finals this year for the first time since 2009, while Sydney will miss the finals for the first time since 2009.

One of Brisbane or Sydney (but not both) have played finals every year since 2005 (they both played finals in 2004).

Since Brisbane became the Lions in 1997, Brisbane or Sydney have played in every finals series.
 
The Bulldogs 104-point demolition of Essendon tonight at the Docklands was the first time in 25 years that the Bulldogs have won by a century or more. This is remarkable given that there have been some pretty good Dogs teams during this time and some pretty ordinary opponents.

The last time the Dogs won by more than 100 points was remarkably also a 104-point victory, achieved by thrashing Fitzroy 21.18-144 to 6.4-40 in Round 15 1994 at the Western Oval in very wet conditions. At this stage, I don't think that the Docklands Stadium had even been conceived.
 

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