Stats observations

[RedmanWasHere]

It is also the lowest scoring draw since rd 10 1904, when Geelong and Carlton played out a 35-35 draw.

Wasn’t there a game in 1991 with THAT score pairing?

 

[worbod]

Wasn’t there a game in 1991 with THAT score pairing?

That's right, Footscray vs Sydney in round 12.

 

[X_box_X]

It seems to me that Geelong get the rub of the green when they play at their home ground.

Over the past ten years, what is their FF:FA ratio at home compared to every other ground?

 

[Ron The Bear]

It seems to me that Geelong get the rub of the green when they play at their home ground.

Over the past ten years, what is their FF:FA ratio at home compared to every other ground?

2010-current

KP: 1649/1472
non-KP: 3038/3252

 

[Ron The Bear]

Oldest VFL/AFL teams

Avg Age	Club	Year	Round	Result	Age diff	Oldest	Age	Youngest	Age
28.44	Ha	2020	3		+2.17	Burgoyne, Shaun	37y241d	Worpel, James	21y146d
28.21	Ri	1923	15	L	+2.04	McIntosh, Norm	33y175d	Harrison, Joe H.	20y172d
28.21	Ha	2020	2	L	+0.63	Burgoyne, Shaun	37y235d	Worpel, James	21y140d
28.17	Fi	1946	4	W	+3.68	Denning, Clen	35y72d	Johnstone, Norm	19y115d
28.16	Ca	1919	SF	L	+0.49	McGregor, Rod	36y343d	Furnell, Harry	20y338d
28.13	Fi	1946	1	L	+3.71	Denning, Clen	35y51d	Johnstone, Norm	19y94d
28.12	Ca	1919	17	W	+2.14	McGregor, Rod	36y322d	Mercovich, Frank	21y199d
28.12	Ha	2020	1	W	+3.31	Burgoyne, Shaun	37y153d	Worpel, James	21y58d
28.09	Ca	1919	16	L	+1.47	McGregor, Rod	36y315d	Furnell, Harry	20y310d
28.05	Ca	1919	18	W	+1.88	McGregor, Rod	36y329d	Mercovich, Frank	21y206d
28.04	Fi	1946	2	L	+3.61	Denning, Clen	35y58d	Johnstone, Norm	19y101d
28.03	Fi	1945	9	W	+4.16	Denning, Clen	34y108d	Jarvis, Noel	20y186d
28.02	Sy	1945	1	W	+0.73	Nash, Laurie	34y354d	Grossman, Don	24y115d
28.01	Fi	1944	15	W	+3.16	Denning, Clen	33y166d	Jarvis, Noel	19y244d
28.00	NM	2016	12	L	+1.77	Harvey, Brent	38y28d	McDonald, Luke	21y123d

 

[stemline]

Can you chuck in a W/L column? Need to know if the Hawks are historically doomed tonight, or just normal doomed.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Can you chuck in a W/L column? Need to know if the Hawks are historically doomed tonight, or just normal doomed.

Have done. Inconclusive.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Have done. Inconclusive.

With Scrimshaw a late replacement for Puopolo, I'm guessing that knocks that number 1 ranking out of the ballpark there Ron.

In fact, with an 11 year differential between them, it knocks this game off that table completely, I'm thinking.

 

[Ron The Bear]

With Scrimshaw a late replacement for Puopolo, I'm guessing that knocks that number 1 ranking out of the ballpark there Ron.

In fact, with an 11 year differential between them, it knocks this game off that table completely, I'm thinking.

Dropped to 20th all time, 27.95.

Rounds 1-3 have been Hawthorn's three oldest teams, ahead of the 2015 GF at 27.83.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Jack Steven coming in for the Cats actually makes them marginally older than Hawthorn @ 27.97 (18th oldest).

Rounds 2 & 3 have been the two oldest teams ever for Geelong.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Jack Steven coming in for the Cats actually makes them marginally older than Hawthorn @ 27.97 (18th oldest).

Rounds 2 & 3 have been the teo oldest teams ever for Geelong.

Can't wait for the meeja to write them off too then.

 

[Nothing]

Just said on the Pies broadcast that Darcy Cameron has played three games for a win, a loss and a draw.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Just said on the Pies broadcast that Darcy Cameron has played three games for a win, a loss and a draw.

So we'll need to dub him 'Nelson' then.

 

[Nothing]

So we'll need to dub him 'Nelson' then.

With the distinct possibility of getting dropped he may well be Nelson.

 

[emuboy]

Richmond were runners up in the highest scoring grand final and lowest scoring grand final 45 years apart.

The Tigers went down to Collingwood 2.13-25 to 1.7-13 in teeming rain in 1927, and amazingly lost by 27 points in 1972 to Carlton 22.18-150 to 28.9-177. It was the Tigers' highest score of that season and interestingly the only time the Blues have ever been in a match with a 300 point aggregate score.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Oldest competition age after four rounds

Year	Avg Age
1920	26.32
1921	26.15
2020	25.82
1916	25.79
1919	25.72
1923	25.69
1924	25.67
1944	25.61
1945	25.60
1922	25.54
1946	25.46
1943	25.37
1925	25.36
1917	25.30
1918	25.29
1915	25.28
1940	25.28

Yet the Suns are second on the ladder @ 23.95 after duping the AFL into giving them pity picks.

 

[Catsace]

Fascinating stats there RTB....i'm guessing with wartime perhaps claiming many very young men going off to do their duty, that left perhaps fewer younger players to come through, and perhaps some older ones to hang on? Many of those highest averages are in the war years for both world wars.

 

[X_box_X]

2010-current

KP: 1649/1472
non-KP: 3038/3252

Free kicks
Gold Coast 22
Geelong 11

It's the largest FA - FF ratio for Geelong on their home deck since 663 BC.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Free kicks
Gold Coast 22
Geelong 11

It's the largest FA - FF ratio for Geelong on their home deck since 663 BC.

Depends where you get them & at what juncture of the game.

 

[worbod]

At the completion of round 5, Collingwood are currently outside the final 8 but their percentage of 133.5 is better than all the teams inside the 8 except one (Port 170.1). Second-placed Brisbane Lions have the next best percentage (129.6). The last time this occurred was after round 17, 1997 when it was Collingwood again. The Magpies were in 11th position and had a percentage of 116.8 which was bettered only by Adelaide in 2nd position (126.9). The next best percentage was 116.5 by St. Kilda in 3rd.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

This was posted on the dogs board. Thought it was pretty cool.

 

[footyfan1978]

Complete random observation at the freak John Coleman was in his time.
In 1950 season, the whole Hawthorn side for full season kicked 136 goals.
The star full forward of the league that season of John Coleman kicked 120 goals himself.

So just made me randomly have a look at his general playing stats.
One thing I notice is on debut he kicked 12 goals.
In his second last ever game he kicked 14 goals.
He just must have been an absolute freak talent beyond what many of us can imagine.

 

[Connor7395]

Teams who kicked the most goals in a home-and-away season and failed to make the finals:
1913 - Geelong (172), finished 5th (tied goals with South Melbourne)
1914 - St. Kilda (174), finished 7th (after finals, still had 7 more than South Melbourne!)
1932 - Geelong (260), finished 5th (highest percentage by a team that missed finals: 139.7%)
1936 - St. Kilda (271), finished 7th
1948 - Richmond (275), finished 5th
1949 - Richmond AND Geelong (246), finished 6th and 8th respectively
1951 - Richmond (222), finished 6th
1952 - Essendon (228), finished 8th
1961 - Essendon (209), finished 7th (tied goals with Melbourne)
1968 - Hawthorn (279), finished 6th
1970 - Hawthorn (334), finished 8th

Teams who kicked the least goals in a home-and-away season and made finals:
1916 - Fitzroy (96) (not fair, everybody made finals)
1999 - Port Adelaide (260), finished 7th

 

[X_box_X]

Complete random observation at the freak John Coleman was in his time.
In 1950 season, the whole Hawthorn side for full season kicked 136 goals.
The star full forward of the league that season of John Coleman kicked 120 goals himself.

So just made me randomly have a look at his general playing stats.
One thing I notice is on debut he kicked 12 goals.
In his second last ever game he kicked 14 goals.
He just must have been an absolute freak talent beyond what many of us can imagine.

Some people consider him to be the GOAT.

 

[footyfan1978]

Some people consider him to be the GOAT.

He may well be.
Most of my own generation consider Lockett or Gary Ablett the biggest star forwards we seen in our time of watching but everything I heard about Coleman suggests he was probably as big as star as them and probably more. Imagine he must have been awesome to watch in action.