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Ron The Bear

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how'd the 1910 finals system work that carlton made it into the grand final after losing the game before? was this back in the challenge system?
Yes. They lost to wooden spooner St.Kilda, then to South Melbourne in the semi. They got to sit back while Collingwood took care of South, then challenged for the premiership. Seems ridiculous in hindsight.

http://afltables.com/afl/seas/1910.html#fin
 

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Does anyone know where I can find stats on umpiring decisions? I'm interested in comparing holding the ball decisions in 2014 with previous years.
 

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Anyone know where score assists can be found. Goal assists are widely used, but I feel score assists should be used more to give a better indication (it isn't the players fault if who they kicked to missed from 5m out).

I see Pro-Stats have it, but require subscription to access it.
 

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Melbourne 1977 R2-5 lost four in a row.
Melbourne in 1977 makes a case for the best 5-17 team in history, with the imbalance in that record almost entirely due to accuracy in front of goal (by itself, and by opponents). As well as that streak from Rounds 2-5, it lost matches in Rounds 10 & 22 despite more scoring shots, and lost two other matches with just one fewer scoring shot than its opponent. In every one of its first six matches (all losses) it was under 50% accuracy while its opponent was over 50%.

Its accuracy of 46% compares to 48%-53% for the rest of the league. Its opponents' combined accuracy of 55% was way out of kilter with the range of 46%-52% for everyone else. Melbourne's 637 scoring shots was ranked 4th in the VFL that year behind the teams in 1st, 2nd & 4th.
 

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any team lost a match besides Essendon last year to Brisbane when having 70+ disposals, 10+ clearances & 20+ inside 50s compared to opponent?
 

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Apparently they are on here somewhere. Those ones are hard to decipher^^ Thanks though mate.
If by "hard to decipher" you mean you're not sure what is in some of the stat columns, just hovering the mouse where it e.g. says KIE shows you it is Kicks Ineffective. Things probably were a bit simpler back in the day when there was just K, M, H, HO, G, B though!
 

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WHAT GAME DID LLOYD CALL, HES LIKE 'HES NO CHANCE TO KICK THIS' AND THEN THE PLAYER SLOTTED IT AND THE MIRICALE ON GRASS GUY WAS LIKE 'HE HAS NO CHANCE LLOYDY, NO CHANCE AT ALL!'
 

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WHAT GAME DID LLOYD CALL, HES LIKE 'HES NO CHANCE TO KICK THIS' AND THEN THE PLAYER SLOTTED IT AND THE MIRICALE ON GRASS GUY WAS LIKE 'HE HAS NO CHANCE LLOYDY, NO CHANCE AT ALL!'
Mr Frenchfri, welcome to the Statisticians' Forum. Sir, you appear to be affected by alcohol and/or drugs, and you are shouting at our staff. Can we call you a taxi home?
 

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Bit of chat going on the Freo board about 6 day breaks and travel impacting our early season form. I know the 6 day break vs team with 7 or more comes up from time to time and posts like this one seems to indicate that historically there's not a great significance.

However, I'm interested in a couple of variations on this, probably difficult to work out.

1. What is the 6 day vs 7 day break in the last say 10 years only. The physical demands, according to most commentators, has significantly increased in the last decade or so and, one could hypothesise, that the shorter turn-around might have more impact in recent times than in previous years.

2. And this is really what I want to know, what is the statistical significance (if any) of teams that have the shorter turn-around AND interstate travel the same week against teams that don't travel or have a longer break. Again going on the last 10 or so years in particular.
 

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1. What is the 6 day vs 7 day break in the last say 10 years only. The physical demands, according to most commentators, has significantly increased in the last decade or so and, one could hypothesise, that the shorter turn-around might have more impact in recent times than in previous years.

2. And this is really what I want to know, what is the statistical significance (if any) of teams that have the shorter turn-around AND interstate travel the same week against teams that don't travel or have a longer break. Again going on the last 10 or so years in particular.
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excluding the current incomplete round since 2004 teams on a 6 day break vs on a 7 day break = 226-224-5, using the betting line record for those teams 239-216.

2. can give you a part answer for teams who travel interstate on 6 day break vs teams who are at home on 7+ days. 70-107-1, its poor but these teams would usually be underdogs given its interstate, betting line record for these teams is 85-93
 
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PapaJ, I wouldn't be too worried at this stage. Freo have yet to play a bottom 8 side, that won't change until June 1.

Freo then have an 8 week run which includes 7 games against bottom 8 sides (+ home derby).
 
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