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What is the most consequtive goals by a team in:
a) one match
b) from the end of one match and to the start of another
c) against one team over multiple matches (such as kicking the last 5 goals v. Carlton, then kicking the first 6 the next time they played)
 

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footyfan78 said:
I'd say Brisbane Bears in 1995 would go close to least wins to make finals in 22 home and away rounds.
Think they had only 10 wins ?
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Conversely the Tigers of 1966 won 13.5 games out of 18 for a winning % of 77.....The highest of any team ever to have missed out on finals.

In 1963 & 1964, both Essendon & Hawthorn won 13 out of 18 for a winning % of 73% to finish 5th....One more win would have seen both sides finish First on the ladder in those seasons.....That's How tight those seasons were.

Little wonder why they finally decided on a Top 5 system not long thereafter, in 1972....Far more reward for Top spot also.
 
RobbieGray17 said:
I cant remember my stats but excluding draws, what is the least possible wins to make finals, most to miss out, most to finish last, least to finish first.
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Fitzroy won just 2 games in 1916 yet played finals. Technically that should be the answer to the first part of the question, but it's rather dubious since it was a four-team competition that year and they all played finals! Fitzroy went on to win the flag, of course!!

No. of wins/games played and win % (draws are ignored, as requested):-
PLAYED FINALS - LEAST WINS
Win %
Fitzroy 1916 2/12 16.67% (4th of 4 teams)
Fitzroy 1917 6/15 40% (4th of 6 teams)
Richmond 1916 5/12 41.67% (3rd of 4 teams)
Brisbane 1995 10/22 45.45%
Brisbane 1997 10/22 45.45%
Essendon 2009 10/22 45.45%

MISSED FINALS - MOST WINS
14 wins: Richmond 1968 (20 games), Carlton 1971 (22 games), Carlton 1992 (22 games), Essendon 2013* (22 games).
* Essendon relegated to 9th position.

Win %
Essendon 1963 13/18 72.22%
Hawthorn 1964 13/18 72.22%
Richmond 1966 13/18 72.22%

FINISHED LAST - MOST WINS
6 wins: Collingwood 1976 (22 games).
5 wins: 10 teams, including Brisbane 2017.

Win %
Richmond 1916 5/12 41.67% (4th of 4 teams after playing finals - officially classed as the wooden spooner but not last at end of H&A)
Essendon 1907 5/17 29.41%
Geelong 1957 5/18 27.78%

FINISHED FIRST (H&A) - LEAST WINS
10 wins: Carlton 1916 (12 games), Collingwood 1917 (15 games), Richmond 1943 (15 games).

Win %
Essendon 1993 13/20 65.00%
Collingwood 1917 10/15 66.67%
Richmond 1943 10/15 66.67%
Melbourne 1957 12/18 66.67%
St Kilda 1997 15/22 68.18%
Adelaide 2017 15/22 68.18%
 
35Daicos said:
Fitzroy won just 2 games in 1916 yet played finals. Technically that should be the answer to the first part of the question, but it's rather dubious since it was a four-team competition that year and they all played finals! Fitzroy went on to win the flag, of course!!

No. of wins/games played and win % (draws are ignored, as requested):-
PLAYED FINALS - LEAST WINS
Win %
Fitzroy 1916 2/12 16.67% (4th of 4 teams)
Fitzroy 1917 6/15 40% (4th of 6 teams)
Richmond 1916 5/12 41.67% (3rd of 4 teams)
Brisbane 1995 10/22 45.45%
Brisbane 1997 10/22 45.45%
Essendon 2009 10/22 45.45%

MISSED FINALS - MOST WINS
14 wins: Richmond 1968 (20 games), Carlton 1971 (22 games), Carlton 1992 (22 games), Essendon 2013* (22 games).
* Essendon relegated to 9th position.

Win %
Essendon 1963 13/18 72.22%
Hawthorn 1964 13/18 72.22%
Richmond 1966 13/18 72.22%

FINISHED LAST - MOST WINS
6 wins: Collingwood 1976 (22 games).
5 wins: 10 teams, including Brisbane 2017.

Win %
Richmond 1916 5/12 41.67% (4th of 4 teams after playing finals - officially classed as the wooden spooner but not last at end of H&A)
Essendon 1907 5/17 29.41%
Geelong 1957 5/18 27.78%

FINISHED FIRST (H&A) - LEAST WINS
10 wins: Carlton 1916 (12 games), Collingwood 1917 (15 games), Richmond 1943 (15 games).

Win %
Essendon 1993 13/20 65.00%
Collingwood 1917 10/15 66.67%
Richmond 1943 10/15 66.67%
Melbourne 1957 12/18 66.67%
St Kilda 1997 15/22 68.18%
Adelaide 2017 15/22 68.18%
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Draws shouldn't be ignored in terms of win/loss percentages during the H&A season, as you are effectively counting them as losses....This also has the effect of skewing the the over all percentage, as Richmond in 1966 actually had a 77% win/loss record....You can't count draws as losses, as the 2 points often decides the difference between a finals spot or not.
 
Procrastinator35 said:
Draws shouldn't be ignored in terms of win/loss percentages during the H&A season, as you are effectively counting them as losses....This also has the effect of skewing the the over all percentage, as Richmond in 1966 actually had a 77% win/loss record....You can't count draws as losses, as the 2 points often decides the difference between a finals spot or not.
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It's not how I would normally have shown the results, but the poster I replied to did say "I cant remember my stats but excluding draws, what is the least possible wins to make finals, most to miss out, most to finish last, least to finish first." I took that as meaning he was only interested in the number of wins in those four categories, and that he wasn't interested in the number of draws, so that's how I've looked at it.

I'm certainly not counting draws as losses. The Win % shown is simply based on the % of wins a team had in a H&A season (which again is what was asked for here I believe). e.g. If a team won 10 of 20 games in a season, even if it drew 2 games, I'd still have it with a Win % of 50, as it won half of it's games.

I keep figures for Win %, Loss % and Draw %, but also have Match %/Ratio, which counts wins and draws together. So e.g. with Richmond 1966 as they won 13 of 18 H&A games I show them with a Win % of 72.22, for the Match %/Ratio (taking the all-important draw into account!) the figure is 75% (13.5/18). If you've come up with a figure of 77% that should be what you would get for 14/18, not 13.5/18!
 
maskmcgee said:
People always seem to forget Essendon got 10.5 wins in 2009, and had we lost to Hawthorn, they also would of made it with 10.0 wins.
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when you have a quick scan back over the years when the Top 4 system was in place, prior to 1972....Then that 2 points for a draw was so decisive in so many seasons in dictating top 4 positions & whether or not a team made the 4 to begin with, or not.
 
maskmcgee said:
who is the fattest player ever
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In my living memory, off the top of my head, it'd be a battle between Mick Nolan vs Stewie Dew, immediately following his come back....Mind you, Rene Kink use to blow-out of proportion before every pre-season, especially towards the end of his career....There were probably plenty of fatty's before that, though not before the war I'd wager, given the Depression.
 

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If you're just looking for the heaviest players ever (from AFL Record Season Guide 2017):-
Mick Nolan NM 124 194
Aaron Sandilands Frem 118 211
Richard Lounder Rich 116 203
Dean Farnham Fitz 115 206
Brian Roberts Rich/S Melb 113 199
Saverio Rocca Coll/NM 112 195
Paul Salmon Ess/Haw 112 205
Max Gawn Melb 111 208
Jarrod Witts Coll/GCS 111 209
Tom Hawkins Geel 110 198
Nic Naitanui WCE 110 201
Peter Street Geel/WB 110 211
Earl Spalding Melb/Carl 110 198
Wayne Henwood Syd/Melb 110 191
John Ironmonger Syd/Fitz 110 200

Sean Darcy Frem 111 201
was shown on the current players list but not on the above list as he hadn't yet debuted.

Please note this 'disclaimer' shown at the bottom of the page:-
Heights and weights for players before World War 1 were rarely published. Family and military records for that era have provided some data. Obviously players have changed size during their careers. Where possible, the information relates to the dimensions of a player for the majority of his career.

AFL Tables has Peter Street and Nic Naitanui at 105kg. All other figures match what the AFL Guide shows ^.
 
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35Daicos said:
If you're just looking for the heaviest players ever (from AFL Record Season Guide 2017):-
Mick Nolan NM 124
Aaron Sandilands Frem 118
Richard Lounder Rich 116
Dean Farnham Fitz 115
Brian Roberts Rich/S Melb 113
Saverio Rocca Coll/NM 112
Paul Salmon Ess/Haw 112
Max Gawn Melb 111
Jarrod Witts Coll/GCS 111
Tom Hawkins Geel 110
Nic Naitanui WCE 110
Peter Street Geel/WB 110
Earl Spalding Melb/Carl 110
Wayne Henwood Syd/Melb 110
John Ironmonger Syd/Fitz 110

Sean Darcy Frem 111
was shown on the current players list but not on the above list as he hadn't yet debuted.
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Didn't Lockett put both feet on scales at weigh in ?? .. I'm sure at periods during his career he was around the 110 mark.
 
Royals said:
Didn't Lockett put both feet on scales at weigh in ?? .. I'm sure at periods during his career he was around the 110 mark.
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https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/T/Tony_Lockett.html || https://australianfootball.com/players/player/tony+lockett/11839

These sites both have him at 104kg. Yet Wikipedia says 118kg:- https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Tony_Lockett

I presume if a player only played a season or two at a significantly higher/lower weight than what he was normally at, they'd simply ignore that as far as those figures are concerned. Yet I'd have thought Lockett wouldn't have spent too much of his career around the 104kg mark, so not really sure what they're (AFL) going by with this!
 
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35Daicos said:
If you're just looking for the heaviest players ever (from AFL Record Season Guide 2017):-
Mick Nolan NM 124
Aaron Sandilands Frem 118
Richard Lounder Rich 116
Dean Farnham Fitz 115
Brian Roberts Rich/S Melb 113
Saverio Rocca Coll/NM 112
Paul Salmon Ess/Haw 112
Max Gawn Melb 111
Jarrod Witts Coll/GCS 111
Tom Hawkins Geel 110
Nic Naitanui WCE 110
Peter Street Geel/WB 110
Earl Spalding Melb/Carl 110
Wayne Henwood Syd/Melb 110
John Ironmonger Syd/Fitz 110

Sean Darcy Frem 111
was shown on the current players list but not on the above list as he hadn't yet debuted.
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Don't know how I missed Brian 'The Whale' Roberts & Tony Lockett.

Probably a good idea to supply heights also.....It's one thing being 120kgs, but when you're Sandilands height, then it stands to reason.

Kilos per cm's, Stuart Dew circa 2008 would have to be up there....Rene Kink also.


35Daicos said:
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/T/Tony_Lockett.html || https://australianfootball.com/players/player/tony+lockett/11839

These sites both have him at 104kg. Yet Wikipedia says 118kg:- https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Tony_Lockett

I presume if a player only played a season or two at a significantly higher/lower weight than what he was normally at, they'd simply ignore that as far as those figures are concerned. Yet I'd have thought Lockett wouldn't have spent too much of his career around the 104kg mark, so not really sure what they're (AFL) going by with this!
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The trouble with the official AFL stats is that they seldom keep them up to date....Lockett may well have been 104kgs early doors & they just never bothered updating it.....It's the same with the players height too when they first get drafted, even though some lads still keep on growing till their 21....It's very frustrating & is a real bug-bear of mine.

Whether this is the individual clubs fault or the AFL's I'm not entirely sure.
 
Procrastinator35 said:
Don't know how I missed Brian 'The Whale' Roberts & Tony Lockett.

Probably a good idea to supply heights also.....It's one thing being 120kgs, but when you're Sandilands height, then it stands to reason.

Kilos per cm's, Stuart Dew circa 2008 would have to be up there....Rene Kink also.

The trouble with the official AFL stats is that they seldom keep them up to date....Lockett may well have been 104kgs early doors & they just never bothered updating it.....It's the same with the players height too when they first get drafted, even though some lads still keep on growing till their 21....It's very frustrating & is a real bug-bear of mine.

Whether this is the individual clubs fault or the AFL's I'm not entirely sure.
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I've just added some bits to the post from last night. I love the AFL Season Guides but the print size seems to be getting smaller every year (or something!!) and I find trying to read it properly in the night time isn't easy, and I didn't even notice the important 'disclaimer' I've now included!

Obviously that list just shows the heaviest players on record (with what is supposed to be their regular playing weight). Trying to come up with "who is the fattest player ever" is a pretty hopeless task, I'd say. Nobody would consider Sandilands or Salmon to be fat, they were/are bloody tall and heavy. The likes of Dew and Kink (at their worst) are certainly the types people would be thinking of. I'm pretty sure Fitzroy/Brisbane's Brendan McCormack ended up huge, yet AFL Tables has him at 89kg/187cm. Mick Nolan probably takes top place no matter how you look at it.

I know they do change plenty of heights and weights every year in the annual Guides, but I can certainly understand why the likes of AFL Tables wouldn't want to stuff around changing those figures from year to year.
 
Fremantle Dockers AFLW player Mel Caulfield's three scoring shots in her career have all been goals - a 100% record.

Would anyone know what the record is in the VFL/AFL for a completed career:

a) with all scoring shots being goals and no behinds?
b) with all scoring shots being behinds and no goals?
 
Lauren Arnell kicked Carlton's entire score of 2.1 (13) against the Western Bulldogs in Round 4 of the AFLW. Would anyone know what is the record in any league for the most points scored by a player when kicking their side's entire score in a match?
 
GrahamClayton said:
Lauren Arnell kicked Carlton's entire score of 2.1 (13) against the Western Bulldogs in Round 4 of the AFLW. Would anyone know what is the record in any league for the most points scored by a player when kicking their side's entire score in a match?
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If the newspaper accounts are correct then the great George Doig would be a strong candidate for that honour:
on 5 Sept 1931 - George Doig - 26.20 - for East Fremantle vs Palmyra in Fremantle Suburban Association
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/75763944
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/83884582
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/75768563

His profile in the WA Hall of Fame summarises his senior first-class career:
http://www.wafootballhalloffame.com.au/inductees/2714-george-doig
 
Has any team played in Victoria, NSW, NT, Queensland, SA and WA in one season? If not, how many have played in five states in one season?
 
worbod said:
Has any team played in Victoria, NSW, NT, Queensland, SA and WA in one season? If not, how many have played in five states in one season?
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Not many teams from Victoria have played in NT during home and away season if that is what you asking ?
If you are, you need to search the fixtures of Melbourne and Dogs for last 10 to 15 years as a couple of the clubs seen up there at some stage.
 
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