Stats questions

[35Daicos]

This shows Most Games Before (first) Final (but not gaps between finals games): https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_players.html#19

 

[red+black]

Is there a website that shows a rolling 5 or 10 game ladder for any round in previous seasons?

I do seem to recall a site where you could choose start round and end round and show the ladder

 

[footyfan1978]

Robert Flower
The end

 

[North park]

This shows Most Games Before (first) Final (but not gaps between finals games): https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_players.html#19

I did check this on afl tables but couldn't find a list of gaps between finals games.

I would be surprised if Nathan Jones doesn't hold the record for longest gap between finals games. Which makes it interesting that the record for Most Games Before First Finals and Most Games Between Finals are both held by Melbourne players. They seem to make a habit of long finals droughts.

 

[Demon in Hell]

Long finals droughts = Collywobbles.

 

[GuzzLG]

Has anyone ever played 100 senior games in a 4-season window? If not, what’s the most in any 4-season period?

 

[35Daicos]

Has anyone ever played 100 senior games in a 4-season window? If not, what’s the most in any 4-season period?

Wayne Schimmelbusch played 102 games for North Melbourne - 1974-77 (and 100 games from 1975-78):

I'm not sure how many other players have done this (or what the record tally over 4 seasons is).

Edit: Bill Picken played 100 games with Collingwood - 1978-81:


Dane Swan 100 games for Collingwood - 2007-10:


Michael Tuck's best was 99 over 4 seasons, while Shaun Burgoyne has played 98 games.

 

[red+black]

Has anyone ever played 100 senior games in a 4-season window? If not, what’s the most in any 4-season period?

Thought this had come up before, maybe it hasn't. Doesn't answer your question but I found this from 2016:

Most x game seasons:
27 - (1) John Cassin (NM, 1977)
26 - (3) Schimmelbusch
25 - (5) Tuck, Ashcroft, Burgoyne
24 - (8) Burgoyne
23 - (10) Tuck
22 - (13) Bartlett, Tuck, B Harvey

 

[red+black]

So let's get the ball rolling then. Most games played over x seasons:

1 - 27 - John Cassin (NM 1977)
2 - 52 (26+26) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-75)
3 - 76 (26+26+24) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-76) (also 26+24+26 across 1975-77)
4 - 102 (26+26+24+26) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-77)
5 - 126 (26+26+24+26+24) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-78)
6 - 151 (26+26+24+26+24+25) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-79)
7 - 174 (26+26+24+26+24+25+23) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-80)

 

[RedmanWasHere]

With that sequence of numbers, Schimma should've reached 350 games instead of a nib over 300.

All time great.

 

[worbod]

What are some of the highest kick totals a player has had in a game without scoring a goal?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Wayne Schimmelbusch played 102 games for North Melbourne - 1974-77 (and 100 games from 1975-78):
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I'm not sure how many other players have done this (or what the record tally over 4 seasons is).

Edit: Bill Picken played 100 games with Collingwood - 1978-81:
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Dane Swan 100 games for Collingwood - 2007-10:
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Michael Tuck's best was 99 over 4 seasons, while Shaun Burgoyne has played 98 games.

Luke Breust also has played 99 games over 4 seasons twice; From 2012-2015 & also from 2013-2016.

2012....24
2013....25
2014....25
2015....25
2016....24

Chris Mew played 98 games in 4 seasons between 1982-1985.

1982....25
1983....25
1984....23
1985....25

 

[35Daicos]

What are some of the highest kick totals a player has had in a game without scoring a goal?

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/teams/allteams/playershi.html#G01

Bill Goggin (vs. CW) and John Murphy have the highest goalless tally (38 kicks). Heath Shaw had 36 (without a goal).

Edit: That should be the top 3. There's a few other cases of a player with 36 kicks (not shown on that list) but none where they are goalless.

 

[Procrastinator35]

So let's get the ball rolling then. Most games played over x seasons:

1 - 27 - John Cassin (NM 1977)
2 - 52 (26+26) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-75)
3 - 76 (26+26+24) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-76) (also 26+24+26 across 1974-77)
4 - 102 (26+26+24+26) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-77)
5 - 126 (26+26+24+26+24) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-78)
6 - 151 (26+26+24+26+24+25) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-79)
7 - 174 (26+26+24+26+24+25+23) - Wayne Schimmelbusch (NM 1974-80)

Burgoyne rounds out to 168 over 7 seasons from 2011-2017.....Not too far away at all & not too shabby for a bloke with a bung knee when we recruited him.

2011....24
2012....24
2013....23
2014....25
2015....26
2016....24
2017....22

 

[35Daicos]

Burgoyne rounds out to 168 over 7 seasons from 2011-2017.....Not too far away at all & not too shabby for a bloke with a bung knee when we recruited him.

2011....24
2012....24
2013....23
2014....25
2015....26
2016....24
2017....22

My best mate is a Hawthorn supporter and he was disgusted when you recruited Burgoyne (because of the "fitness doubt"). Now he's disgusted that you've recruited Wingard (he just doesn't like him!). I happily remind him that it worked out okay with Burgoyne, despite his doubts!!

 

[Procrastinator35]

My best mate is a Hawthorn supporter and he was disgusted when you recruited Burgoyne (because of the "fitness doubt"). Now he's disgusted that you've recruited Wingard (he just doesn't like him!). I happily remind him that it worked out okay with Burgoyne, despite his doubts!!

I can understand his reserve, as Wingard is a different kind of Cat....Though so too was Brian Lake & yet, he turned out to be exactly what we needed.

Remember his choker-hold on Petrie of North?....Hodge & Lewis hung him out to the cleaners on that one & he was very close to be kicked off the team entirely from thereon in.....Ah-hem.....3 Premierships & one Norm Smith later.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Russell Greene also played 98 games in 4 seasons.

1982....25
1983....25
1984....25
1985....23

Kelvin Moore played 97 games in 4 seasons.

1975....24
1976....24
1977....25
1978....24

 

[worbod]

What are some of the highest kick totals a player has had in a game without scoring a goal?

I have been able to build upon some of the initial data given by 35daicos

kicks	player	club	game	behinds
38	Bill Goggin	Geelong	rd 4, 1968 vs Coll	1
38	John Murphy	Fitzroy	rd 11, 1972 vs Melb	1
36	Heath Shaw	GWS	rd 9, 2016 vs WB	0
35	David Thorpe	Footscray	rd 6, 1971 vs Haw	1
35	Greg Wells	Melbourne	rd 13, 1980 vs Fitz	1
35	Brian Lake	Western Bulldogs	rd 9, 2010 vs North	0
34	Des Meagher	Hawthorn	rd 10, 1968 vs North	0
34	David Thorpe	Footscray	rd 18, 1971 vs Carl	1
34	Ian Nankervis	Geelong	rd 19, 1972 vs Melb	4
34	Kevin Bartlett	Richmond	rd 3, 1973 vs St.K	0
34	Ken Fletcher	Essendon	rd 8, 1975 vs Coll	1
34	Craig Bradley	Carlton	rd 11, 1988 vs Fitz	1

In Thorpe's match versus Carlton in 1971 Adrian Gallagher had 33 kicks without scoring a goal.

 

[North park]

I have been able to build upon some of the initial data given by 35daicos

kicks	player	club	game	behinds
38	Bill Goggin	Geelong	rd 4, 1968 vs Coll	1
38	John Murphy	Fitzroy	rd 11, 1972 vs Melb	1
36	Heath Shaw	GWS	rd 9, 2016 vs WB	0
35	David Thorpe	Footscray	rd 6, 1971 vs Haw	1
35	Greg Wells	Melbourne	rd 13, 1980 vs Fitz	1
35	Brian Lake	Western Bulldogs	rd 9, 2010 vs North	0
34	Des Meagher	Hawthorn	rd 10, 1968 vs North	0
34	David Thorpe	Footscray	rd 18, 1971 vs Carl	1
34	Ian Nankervis	Geelong	rd 19, 1972 vs Melb	4
34	Kevin Bartlett	Richmond	rd 3, 1973 vs St.K	0
34	Ken Fletcher	Essendon	rd 8, 1975 vs Coll	1
34	Craig Bradley	Carlton	rd 11, 1988 vs Fitz	1

In Thorpe's match versus Carlton in 1971 Adrian Gallagher had 33 kicks without scoring a goal.

Very surprised to see Kevin Bartlett on this list, considering his reputation for liking a goal.

It leads to two questions:

Who holds the record for kicking at least one goal in the most number of matches? Is it Bartlett?

Who holds the record for kicking at least one goal in the highest percentage of matches they played (minimum of 50 games)? is it Hudson?

 

[red+black]

just had a look, doesn't appear that afltables.com covers such stats

 

[35Daicos]

Very surprised to see Kevin Bartlett on this list, considering his reputation for liking a goal.

It leads to two questions:

Who holds the record for kicking at least one goal in the most number of matches? Is it Bartlett?

Who holds the record for kicking at least one goal in the highest percentage of matches they played (minimum of 50 games)? is it Hudson?

I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for, but it shows players with the most consecutive games where they scored at least one goal: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_goals.html#10

 

[red+black]

no, not what he asked. Just had a look at a couple players.

Lockett - 281 games, goalless 13 times, so kicked 1+ goal 268 times
Coventry - 306 games, goalless 18 times, so kicked 1+ goal 288 times

 

[stemline]

Leigh Matthews kicked a goal in 301 games. Not bad given he wasn't a pure forward for a lot of his career.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Leigh Matthews kicked a goal in 301 games. Not bad given he wasn't a pure forward for a lot of his career.

So 31 games he was held goal-less.....That's quite an impressive stat, going at 90%

I dare say that John Rantall & Curly Austin were the likely main culprits.....A lot of them would also possibly be early on in his career, you'd reckon.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Im thinking that Bartlett would hold the record for most games having scored a goal.....He played in 70 more games than Barney & is only second to him for on-ballers with the most goals.