Stats questions

[Giant Pete]

Anyone know the average age of the sides last weekend?

 

[Giant Pete]

Really sorry to hear about Ron. Thoughts to his family.

 

[35Daicos]

Anyone know the average age of the sides last weekend?

If you mean team by team, you can fish them out of here: AFL Tables - 2022 Season Scores
Just look at each of the games, scroll down near the bottom of the page, and you find e.g.: AFL Tables - Richmond v Greater Western Sydney - , 27-Mar-2022 3:20 PM - Match Stats
Richmond:

GWS:


You can find something similar by going here: AFL Statistics by FootyWire : Australian Rules Football League Stats
Then click on Stats for each of the games.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Is there anyone here who's adept at being Ron The Bear's successor?

 

[Catsace]

Is there anyone here who's adept at being Ron The Bear's successor?

Ron was the Warnie of statistics, his database and stats mind is irreplaceable. But thanks to Paul's AFL tables and some other sites including 'Rogers Results', which has links to other sites within it too, there's still some hope for us stats junkies.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

We need to find someone who can write a program, or has a piece of software that can download everything from AFL Tables, maybe a couple of times a year, and then can do queries of that database downloaded.

 

[BEST OF AFL YT]

Will David Mundy break Brent Harvey's games record?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Will David Mundy break Brent Harvey's games record?

Unlikely.

 

[BEST OF AFL YT]

Unlikely.

but he will probably make it to 400 though

 

[RedmanWasHere]

but he will probably make it to 400 though

That's more realistic for Mundy.

 

[Generalissimo]

Tom Hawkins

26

Tom Hawkins

Age

35

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

is three years younger than Mundy and has played 50 fewer games. If Mundy can give 400 games a push, I see no reason why Hawkins can't.

I know the end can come frighteningly fast in your mid 30s but Hawkins is still an elite goal kicker, handy F50 ruck, and good at ground level for a bloke his size. If one of those attributes drops off from age he'd still easily be best 22.

 

[worbod]

After the game yesterday Melbourne's win-loss record is now 4-0 while their opponent Port Adelaide is 0-4. Has there ever been a larger numerical symmetry after at the end of a game? In other words has there been a game where one team finished 5-0 while their opponent finished 0-5? Or anything greater?

 

[stemline]

There's probably more but in 2013 Rnd 6 Essendon beat GWS to go 6-0, while GWS were 0-6.

 

[X_box_X]

I know the largest ever AFL betting line on record was the round nine clash between WCE and Fitzroy in 1991. The Eagles were 7-0 and Fitzroy were 0-7. The Eagles won by 99, covering the line by half a point.

WCE improved to 8-0 while Fitzroy worsened to 0-8.

I'm not sure if that is the record for largest symetrical difference of a team with a perfect winning record against a team with a perfect losing record, although it's worth a mention.

 

[Catsace]

I know the largest ever AFL betting line on record was the round nine clash between WCE and Fitzroy in 1991. The Eagles were 7-0 and Fitzroy were 0-7. The Eagles won by 99, covering the line by half a point.

WCE improved to 8-0 while Fitzroy worsened to 0-8.

I'm not sure if that is the record for largest symetrical difference of a team with a perfect winning record against a team with a perfect losing record, although it's worth a mention.

I recall that, the Lions were excoriated in the media for such a poor game, where they seemed to merely try to stop the Eagles scoring rather than compete in the game, and at that stage were 0-8 as mentioned and had a percentage of about 49.1

Because the following game, they came out and defeated Geelong with a big last quarter, and a score 101 points higher than the 3.8.26 they managed the previous week! They were 10 goals to 3 up at half time and played an inspired game. Malcolm Blight was livid after the game, saying it's just so typical of Geelong to do this. It could well have been this game's outcome which pricked the conscious of a then retired Gary Ablett Sr, as he announced the following week that he's make a comeback. From 5-4 on the ladder at that stage, Geelong answered with a big win over the Crows at home, then a rare win over the Hawks at Princes Park (ending a run of 10 outs at that stage against them)...the match Gary resumed in the ressies. Indeed that Hawks match also proved cathartic for the brown and gold too...they lost just one more game en route to the Flag after turning 6-5 mid-year.

For the Lions, their following game after the Geelong win was the infamous match against the Crows at Football Park where a series of four successive free kicks to Adelaide late in the game led to a Jameson goal which cruelly saw the Lions lose almost on the siren. The Lions that year despite many bad defeats did have the scalps of Preliminary final combatants Geelong and West Coast to their credit that year, their last round win over the Eagles delivering the spoon to the Bears after the Lions finally moved off the bottom of the ladder.

 

[worbod]

Is there anyone here who's adept at being Ron The Bear's successor?

Ron was the Warnie of statistics, his database and stats mind is irreplaceable. But thanks to Paul's AFL tables and some other sites including 'Rogers Results', which has links to other sites within it too, there's still some hope for us stats junkies.

We need to find someone who can write a program, or has a piece of software that can download everything from AFL Tables, maybe a couple of times a year, and then can do queries of that database downloaded.

Recently I decided to ask Ron's sisters whether they knew anything about Ron's database. They are both BigFooty members and so I decided to PM both of them. I had discovered they were on BigFooty after I decided to look on the Richmond board to see whether a tribute thread had been started after Ron's untimely death, with Richmond of course being the team Ron supported. Today I received this response from one of the sisters:


Hi - I would love for someone to be able to continue what Ronnie did. All of his computer stuff is piled high in the rumpus room at mums house. We hope to start sorting it out over Easter/school holidays.

I don't know what it would look like, would it be an external hard drive? Or programs on the main drives?

My sister is in the US at the moment, she's due back next month.

I'll look in on this page more often and update you with where we're at.

Cheers, Barb.


If any of you are extremely computer savvy and would know how to properly manage Ron's database, it might be good for you to make contact with Barb. I am not sure whether Ron's database would be an external hard drive or a program in the main drive, as Barb has asked. If anybody knows the right computer-related questions to ask of Barb or Jess (the other sister) perhaps we can begin making progress with using and appreciating what Ron had constructed.
Below I have included the link to the "Ron the Bear RIP" thread from the Richmond board. Ron's sisters begin making posts on page 4. Barb has the user name Barbieup and Jess is known as Jessthetigerbear.

Mod. Notice - Ron The Bear RIP

Hi All, We have just been given some sad news that board regular Ron The Bear passed away yesterday. Our thoughts are with Ron's family Thanks

www.bigfooty.com

 

[maskmcgee]

Whats the league wide kicking efficiency stats for each year?

 

[SJ]

We need to find someone who can write a program, or has a piece of software that can download everything from AFL Tables, maybe a couple of times a year, and then can do queries of that database downloaded.

It already exists:

CRAN - Package fitzRoy

 

[the croucher]

At the end of the first quarter during the opening round, Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood and Fremantle had a score of 4.5 (29).

Does anyone know whether a greater number of teams have been on the same score at the end of one particular quarter?

I've been checking some random chunks of years 1897 - present, and had come across a number of times where three teams had same score at end of quarter, but so far, only one other example of four with the same score, 1918 Round 13 - Fitzroy, Collingwood, Sth Melb and St Kilda all 2.2 at qtr time:

AFL Tables - 1918 Season Scores

afltables.com

Will admit that my search has not been precise and well-ordered, but whilst five or more is not impossible, will be surprised if any are found.

 

[WheeloRatings]

Whats the league wide kicking efficiency stats for each year?

2012: 65.2%
2013: 65.4%
2014: 65.2%
2015: 65.6%
2016: 66.2%
2017: 65.9%
2018: 64.1%
2019: 64.4%
2020: 63.9%
2021: 66.7%
2022: 67.1%

 

[Bucking Bronco]

Top 10 biggest comebacks over the last 10 years as far as margin at quarter time, half time and three quarter.

Can only find these but they are all-time and include games where teams used to kick 125 points each.

 

[WheeloRatings]

Top 10 biggest comebacks over the last 10 years as far as margin at quarter time, half time and three quarter.

Can only find these but they are all-time and include games where teams used to kick 125 points each.

Biggest comebacks from quarter time since 2012

Year	Team	Against	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
2012​	Brisbane	Adelaide	-38​	-11​	6​	10​
2017​	Collingwood	Hawthorn	-36​	-34​	0​	18​
2020​	Fremantle	St Kilda	-36​	-13​	8​	6​
2020​	Geelong	Western Bulldogs	-36​	-18​	-10​	11​
2012​	Adelaide	Richmond	-33​	-15​	-5​	19​
2014​	Collingwood	Essendon	-31​	0​	18​	23​
2015​	Brisbane	Western Bulldogs	-31​	-8​	15​	8​
2017​	Greater Western Sydney	Richmond	-31​	-21​	-25​	3​
2013​	Essendon	Fremantle	-30​	-36​	-3​	4​
2013​	Carlton	Richmond	-30​	-5​	3​	10​

Biggest comebacks from half time since 2012

Year	Team	Against	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
2015​	St Kilda	Western Bulldogs	-7​	-49​	-12​	7​
2015​	Collingwood	North Melbourne	-20​	-39​	14​	17​
2021​	Hawthorn	Essendon	3​	-39​	-1​	1​
2021​	Melbourne	Geelong	2​	-39​	-32​	4​
2013​	Port Adelaide	West Coast	-22​	-38​	-21​	5​
2013​	Essendon	Fremantle	-30​	-36​	-3​	4​
2020​	Essendon	Hawthorn	-13​	-36​	-9​	16​
2013​	Geelong	North Melbourne	-19​	-35​	-9​	4​
2014​	North Melbourne	Richmond	-1​	-35​	9​	28​
2017​	Collingwood	Hawthorn	-36​	-34​	0​	18​

Biggest comebacks from three quarter time since 2012

Year	Team	Against	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
2013​	Brisbane	Geelong	-13​	-27​	-38​	5​
2016​	Geelong	Richmond	-2​	-21​	-35​	4​
2015​	Sydney	Essendon	-26​	-22​	-34​	12​
2021​	Melbourne	Geelong	2​	-39​	-32​	4​
2018​	St Kilda	Gold Coast	-6​	-31​	-31​	2​
2019​	Western Bulldogs	Hawthorn	-4​	4​	-30​	19​
2022​	Geelong	Collingwood	-10​	5​	-30​	13​
2013​	Carlton	Port Adelaide	-16​	-32​	-29​	1​
2015​	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	-26​	-18​	-26​	22​
2017​	Geelong	North Melbourne	-25​	-6​	-25​	1​
2017​	Greater Western Sydney	Richmond	-31​	-21​	-25​	3​

 

[Bucking Bronco]

Biggest comebacks from quarter time since 2012

Year	Team	Against	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
2012​	Brisbane	Adelaide	-38​	-11​	6​	10​
2017​	Collingwood	Hawthorn	-36​	-34​	0​	18​
2020​	Fremantle	St Kilda	-36​	-13​	8​	6​
2020​	Geelong	Western Bulldogs	-36​	-18​	-10​	11​
2012​	Adelaide	Richmond	-33​	-15​	-5​	19​
2014​	Collingwood	Essendon	-31​	0​	18​	23​
2015​	Brisbane	Western Bulldogs	-31​	-8​	15​	8​
2017​	Greater Western Sydney	Richmond	-31​	-21​	-25​	3​
2013​	Essendon	Fremantle	-30​	-36​	-3​	4​
2013​	Carlton	Richmond	-30​	-5​	3​	10​

Biggest comebacks from half time since 2012

Year	Team	Against	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
2015​	St Kilda	Western Bulldogs	-7​	-49​	-12​	7​
2015​	Collingwood	North Melbourne	-20​	-39​	14​	17​
2021​	Hawthorn	Essendon	3​	-39​	-1​	1​
2021​	Melbourne	Geelong	2​	-39​	-32​	4​
2013​	Port Adelaide	West Coast	-22​	-38​	-21​	5​
2013​	Essendon	Fremantle	-30​	-36​	-3​	4​
2020​	Essendon	Hawthorn	-13​	-36​	-9​	16​
2013​	Geelong	North Melbourne	-19​	-35​	-9​	4​
2014​	North Melbourne	Richmond	-1​	-35​	9​	28​
2017​	Collingwood	Hawthorn	-36​	-34​	0​	18​

Biggest comebacks from three quarter time since 2012

Year	Team	Against	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4
2013​	Brisbane	Geelong	-13​	-27​	-38​	5​
2016​	Geelong	Richmond	-2​	-21​	-35​	4​
2015​	Sydney	Essendon	-26​	-22​	-34​	12​
2021​	Melbourne	Geelong	2​	-39​	-32​	4​
2018​	St Kilda	Gold Coast	-6​	-31​	-31​	2​
2019​	Western Bulldogs	Hawthorn	-4​	4​	-30​	19​
2022​	Geelong	Collingwood	-10​	5​	-30​	13​
2013​	Carlton	Port Adelaide	-16​	-32​	-29​	1​
2015​	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	-26​	-18​	-26​	22​
2017​	Geelong	North Melbourne	-25​	-6​	-25​	1​
2017​	Greater Western Sydney	Richmond	-31​	-21​	-25​	3​

Thank you so much!

And nice website!

 

[WheeloRatings]

Thank you so much!

And nice website!

My pleasure and thank you very much!

 

[tiger_tough]

Are free kicks way up this year? Or does it just seem to be that way given the coverage certain interpretations are getting?