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I’m thinking that the old Footy Stats Diary site might have kept a list of what round coaches got sacked.

Anyway, neither coach was in danger after a loss tonight, and especially not Worsfold as I just didn’t think Melbourne were good enough to beat Essendon.
 
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I’m thinking that the old Footy Stats Diary site might have kept a list of what round coaches got sacked.

Anyway, neither coach was in danger after a loss tonight, and especially not Worsfold as I just didn’t think Melbourne were good enough to beat Essendon.


Demons back in front....Can't jump the gun with the atrocious umpiring this season thus far.....It appears the umpires will determine the winner of the premiership in 2019, if the season thus far is any gauge…..Deplorable.
 

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Mike Patterson was sacked as St.Kilda coach after Round 2 in 1980 and replaced with Alex Jesalenko.

Just goes to Show the precarious nature of the coching gig back in the day.

It was Jesaulenko who replaced Ian Stewart as coach of Carlton in round 4, 1978. As Captain-Coach in fact....He then went on to Captain/Coach Carlton to the flag in 1979, the very last person to do so in VFL/AFL history......Only to be shown the door at the beginning of 1980, with David Parkin his replacement.

Fancy that scenario in this day & age?....A premiership coach & a favourite son & club champion, being given the heave-ho?....That's just how ruthless the Blues were back in the day.

Little wonder then why the Saints were so keen to get him on board so early, the following season.
 
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Pretty sure Parkin coached Hawthorn til the end of 1980.

Yeah, just checked....Apparently Peter 'Percy' Jones filled in that year.....Can't quite recall the politics around the whole Jezza leaving scenario. It did however, put my mum off football forever thereafter, due to Carlton's treatment of her favourite player.
 

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Yeah, just checked....Apparently Peter 'Percy' Jones filled in that year.....Can't quite recall the politics around the whole Jezza leaving scenario. It did however, put my mum off football forever thereafter, due to Carlton's treatment of her favourite player.

Jezza got caught up with the political turmoil at Carlton, which involved George Harris resigning as President in late 1979 and being replaced by Ian Rice in early 1980.

Jezza backed Harris and was forced the leave Carlton as a result. St.Kilda recruited him as a player only, but soon elevated him to playing coach when they lost the first two games of the 1980 season.

Here are the details from a story on the Carlton website:

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2011-03-19/30-years-on-ian-rice-tells
 

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Just goes to Show the precarious nature of the coching gig back in the day.

It was Jesaulenko who replaced Ian Stewart as coach of Carlton in round 4, 1978. As Captain-Coach in fact....He then went on to Captain/Coach Carlton to the flag in 1979, the very last person to do so in VFL/AFL history......Only to be shown the door at the beginning of 1980, with David Parkin his replacement.

Fancy that scenario in this day & age?....A premiership coach & a favourite son & club champion, being given the heave-ho?....That's just how ruthless the Blues were back in the day.

Little wonder then why the Saints were so keen to get him on board so early, the following season.
Jezza's departure from Carlton was mainly due to him supporting the outgoing president, George Harris. It cost him the coaching job. Then Percy Jones took over in 1980. The Blues won the 79,81 & 82 flags. That 80 flag would have been given them a legup in history for the old 4 peat!
 

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Here's a random one
I noticed Ron Barrassi wore number #2 in the 1958 GF loss instead of he usual #31 anyone know why?
Tony Jewell had number #39 for all but the 1969 season when he had the number #1 but then was back in the number #39 for the 1970 season
Anyone have any answers on these 2 random finds
Cheers
 

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Here's a random one
I noticed Ron Barrassi wore number #2 in the 1958 GF loss instead of he usual #31 anyone know why?
Tony Jewell had number #39 for all but the 1969 season when he had the number #1 but then was back in the number #39 for the 1970 season
Anyone have any answers on these 2 random finds
Cheers
This should cover the first one. It was in the Grand Final Football Record:
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Here's a random one
I noticed Ron Barrassi wore number #2 in the 1958 GF loss instead of he usual #31 anyone know why?
Tony Jewell had number #39 for all but the 1969 season when he had the number #1 but then was back in the number #39 for the 1970 season
Anyone have any answers on these 2 random finds
Cheers
Paddy Guinane had been wearing #1 and retired at the end of 1968. Obviously that number was available and Jewell wore it in 1969, then went back to #39 for 1970, his final season. Nobody wore #1 in 1970, it seems.

As for why Jewell reverted to his original number after just one season in #1, I've no idea! Hopefully someone comes along with a better answer!!
 
This should cover the first one. It was in the Grand Final Football Record:
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Great find!

Had to have a giggle at the server ending meltdown this would probably cause on Big Footy should a similar issue arise today!
 

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What is the earliest in a season that every team has won and lost at least one game?

I'd expect R5 to be earlier than usual, particularly over the last few years.
I believe 1997 had a similar start - everyone had won one by round three and Essendon had their first loss in round four.

FWIW, the minor premier that year finished on 15 wins.
 

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What is the earliest in a season that every team has won and lost at least one game?

I'd expect R5 to be earlier than usual, particularly over the last few years.

This is the earliest with 18 clubs.

Every club had won and lost by Round 4 1997 (16 clubs). Also Round 4 in 1987 (14 clubs), and 1940/1941/1957 (12 clubs).

Technically, every club was at least 1-1 after three rounds in 1900 (8 teams). Round 3 was postponed and played in August, so the first three rounds to be played were 1, 2 & 4.
 

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This is the earliest with 18 clubs.

Every club had won and lost by Round 4 1997 (16 clubs). Also Round 4 in 1987 (14 clubs), and 1940/1941/1957 (12 clubs).

Technically, every club was at least 1-1 after three rounds in 1900 (8 teams). Round 3 was postponed and played in August, so the first three rounds to be played were 1, 2 & 4.

That's actually a good point - didn't even consider the two extra teams from 1997.
 
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At the start of this season, Hawthorn kicked 87 points three games in a row - I'm curious what is the longest streak a team has had for kicking the same score in a row?
 

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At the start of this season, Hawthorn kicked 87 points three games in a row - I'm curious what is the longest streak a team has had for kicking the same score in a row?

Three is the longest and has happened three times previously.

Richmond (79) 1999 R18-20 LLL
Melbourne (50) 2015 R5-7 LLL
Melbourne (60) 2015 R14-16 LLW
 

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1907 and 1918 - by R3, all 8 teams had won a game
1908 - by R3, all 10 teams had won a game
1911 - by R3, none of the 10 teams were 3-0 or 0-3
1917 - by R4, all 6 teams had won and lost a game
 

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Hi there, a question for the stats gurus. The Dockers this week played in their 4th consecutive match where the winner had fewer scoring shots than the loser. I remember reading when the Eagles lost three in a row with more scoring shots back in 2014 that it was (or equaled?) a league record for consecutive games lost with more scoring shots, but was wondering if the Dockers are near the league record for consecutive games where the winner (but not necissarily the team on the streak) had fewer scoring shots? Remarkably, they were only a late David Swallow kick from defeating the Gold Coast under the same circumstances in Round 2 as well, which would have made it 5 consecutive games!
 

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Hi there, a question for the stats gurus. The Dockers this week played in their 4th consecutive match where the winner had fewer scoring shots than the loser. I remember reading when the Eagles lost three in a row with more scoring shots back in 2014 that it was (or equaled?) a league record for consecutive games lost with more scoring shots, but was wondering if the Dockers are near the league record for consecutive games where the winner (but not necissarily the team on the streak) had fewer scoring shots? Remarkably, they were only a late David Swallow kick from defeating the Gold Coast under the same circumstances in Round 2 as well, which would have made it 5 consecutive games!

No team has won four in a row with fewer scores.

The only team to lose four in a row with more scores is Melbourne 1977 R2-5.

Teams to win three in a row with fewer scores:

Fitzroy 1904 R6-8
South Melbourne 1904 R11-13
South Melbourne 1924 R10-12
South Melbourne 1953 R8-10
St.Kilda 1960 R4-6
Essendon 1960 R8-10
St.Kilda 1968 R3-5
Collingwood 1978 R13-15
Brisbane 1988 R6-8
Fitzroy 1993 R7-9
Melbourne 2006 R4-6

Teams to lose three in a row with more scores:

Carlton 1910 R18-GF
Fitzroy 1914 R12-14
Melbourne 1923 R6-8
Hawthorn 1935 R8-10
Richmond 1936 R14-16
Footscray 1949 R4-6
Collingwood 1960 R5-7
Footscray 1967 R17-1968 R1
Collingwood 1978 R3-5
Brisbane 1988 R15-17
Geelong 1998 R16-18
West Coast 2014 R5-7
Essendon 2016 R16-18

The most consecutive games in which the winner had fewer scores is 5, both in 1960, by St.Kilda R2-6 and Essendon R6-10.

Four in a row where winner had fewer scores:

South Melbourne 1904 R11-14
South Melbourne 1924 R10-13
Melbourne 1977 R2-5
Geelong 1998 R16-19
West Coast 2004 R1-4
Fremantle 2019 R3-6
 

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