Analysis Stats!

[Danoz]

My attempt at a power ranking

 

[Messiah]

While he remains top 10 in disposals, tackles and #1 for I50 he's not getting dropped.

Not to mention second in average meters gained, even ahead of Thommo despite way fewer possessions.
Its metres gained that gets you goals - just remember that. Metres gained are one of the few stats that mean anything. You can keep all your cute dinky sideways kicks and handballs - gimme forward metres any day. Maybe when Nobes said McKay played a non-statistical he just meant non-crap-statistics.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

I'm confident you could handle that level of tech

Ha! I'm sure I could... It's just that I can't really be arsed tracking down a programme capable of doing this, paying for said programme, figuring out how it works etc. 20 minutes on a Sunday night spent looking at footy stats is actually kinda appealing... I'm a sad, sad individual, I know.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

Looking at the stats provided by Miss Vanessa, we've had exactly the same number of scoring shots as our opposition when scoring from kick ins (6 vs 6) & clearances (33 vs 33). We've had 8 more scoring shots from turnovers (55 vs 47).

What is notable is that we've been comprehensively outscored from clearances in 2 of the 3 games (North & Richmond) and our accuracy when scoring from centre clearances is very poor compared to the opposition. When it comes to clearance scores we've scored 17.16 (51.5%) to 20.13 (60.6%). This tells me that our defensive pressure is poor when the opposition win the clearance, and our defenders are often caught out. It also tells me that we're not getting a good return on our centre clearances, due to our habit of bombing it blindly directly to the opposition's "spare man in defence".

That said, I'm not sure that 3 games is enough to draw statistically meaningful conclusions.

It would be interesting to see a complete breakdown of other teams scoring habits - particularly for the top sides... I don't have the time to do it properly sorry, but having a quick look at other games in the paper I have in front of me suggests that it's the scores from turnovers which form the bulk of winning teams scores. Not giving it up in dangerous positions coupled with punishing opponents mistakes will mean a win more often than not I'd think.

 

[Floopy]

Ha! I'm sure I could... It's just that I can't really be arsed tracking down a programme capable of doing this, paying for said programme, figuring out how it works etc. 20 minutes on a Sunday night spent looking at footy stats is actually kinda appealing... I'm a sad, sad individual, I know.

My scanning software does it automagically, perhaps yours can too?

 

[Damp Squarie]

While he remains top 10 in disposals, tackles and #1 for I50 he's not getting dropped.

He'll be the first whipping boy up on the block though if his numbers turn to shit.
Is there a Ragdolled stat?

Nah, full credit to DMac...he's sticking it right up his detractors of which I am one.

 

[Danoz]

He'll be the first whipping boy up on the block though if his numbers turn to shit.
Is there a Ragdolled stat?

Nah, full credit to DMac...he's sticking it right up his detractors of which I am one.

To DMac's credit, he is one of our tougher tacklers.

 

[Miss Vanessa]

My scanning software does it automagically, perhaps yours can too?

Not all of us are programmer smart though...

 

[Miss Vanessa]

After Round 4:

Metres Gained


Intercepts


Intercept Marks


Pressure Acts


Score Involvements


Team Stats

 

[Scorpus]

After Round 4:

Metres Gained
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Intercepts
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Intercept Marks
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Pressure Acts
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Score Involvements
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I'm liking the fact we kicked more goals from stoppages than Sydney, which is their big strength

 

[Miss Vanessa]

David Mackay watch - just because it's interesting...

Disposals - 10th
Effective disposal % - 20th
Metres Gained - 3rd
Marks - 18th
Tackles - equal 7th
Goals - equal 13th
Inside 50s - 1st
Goal Assists - equal 7th
Score Involvements - equal 8th
Pressure Acts - 4th
Clearances - 8th
Rebound 50s - equal 12th
One percenters - equal 14th
Bounces - 2nd

I was a critic last year and I think he fully deserved to be dropped from the side. However, this year he has been a very good contributor and despite continued calls for him to be dropped, I just don't see how you can given his current form and output... Though his use of the ball this year hasn't been as good as in the past... I think that's pretty much the only knock on him this year.

 

[GreyCrow]

I liked the turnover goals. That was my worry with a side like Sydney. Good to see it stay at that high level

 

[hunteyes]

David Mackay watch - just because it's interesting...

Disposals - 10th
Effective disposal % - 20th
Metres Gained - 3rd
Marks - 18th
Tackles - equal 7th
Goals - equal 13th
Inside 50s - 1st
Goal Assists - equal 7th
Score Involvements - equal 8th
Pressure Acts - 4th
Clearances - 8th
Rebound 50s - equal 12th
One percenters - equal 14th
Bounces - 2nd

I was a critic last year and I think he fully deserved to be dropped from the side. However, this year he has been a very good contributor and despite continued calls for him to be dropped, I just don't see how you can given his current form and output... Though his use of the ball this year hasn't been as good as in the past... I think that's pretty much the only knock on him this year.

More just a reader and don't often post here but his use of the ball has honestly been disgraceful! I've always been a Mackay fan but all he does these days is just kick long regardless of whether it is to our advantage or not. It doesn't matter if he gets it a bit if he wastes it every time. His tackling is also not up to standard despite being 10th, if it were effective tackles I'm sure he'd be a lot lower.

I'm not a Mackay hater but regardless of his stats, we've now got better options and I want to see a Cameron or Knight take his place.

 

[Danoz]

Team Stats after round 4

Crows Stats| Total| Average| Rank| Compare To Mean| Compare To Opp| Opp Total| Opp Average
\Kicks| 840| 210| 4| +7.3| +12| 792| 198|
\Handballs| 654| 163.5| 12| -8.5| -5.3| 675| 168.8|
\Kick-Handball Ratio| 1.3| | 3| +0.1| +0.1| 1.2| |
\Disposals| 1494| 373.5| 7| -1.3| +6.8| 1467| 366.8|
\Cont Poss| 612| 153| 2| +12.1| -1.8| 619| 154.8|
\Uncont Poss| 895| 223.8| 11| -10.8| +11| 851| 212.8|
\Disp eff %| 72.4%| | 15| -1.3| -0.4| 72.8%| |
\Clangers| 189| 47.3| 3| -4| -2.8| 200| 50|
\Marks| 341| 85.3| 11| -1.8| +5.5| 319| 79.8|
\Cont marks| 36| 9| 15| -1.8| -5.5| 58| 14.5|
\Marks50| 39| 9.8| 16| -2.3| -0.3| 40| 10|
\Hit-outs| 178| 44.5| 4| +5.6| -2.3| 187| 46.8|
\Clearances| 171| 42.8| 1| +6.2| +3.8| 156| 39|
\Centre clr| 65| 16.3| 1| +2.9| +2.8| 54| 13.5|
\Stoppages| 106| 26.5| 2| +3.3| +1| 102| 25.5|
\Rebound50| 179| 44.8| 1| +5.7| +10.3| 138| 34.5|
\Frees For| 83| 20.8| 11| +0.1| +2.3| 74| 18.5|
\Frees Agst| 74| 18.5| 4| -2.1| -2.3| 83| 20.8|
\Tackles| 260| 65| 11| -1.6| -8.5| 294| 73.5|
\One %s| 198| 49.5| 5| +2.9| -1.3| 203| 50.8|
\Bounces| 28| 7| 9| -0.3| 0| 28| 7|
\Inside50| 230| 57.5| 3| +4.3| -1.5| 236| 59|
\Goals| 71| 17.8| 2| +4.3| +4| 55| 13.8|
\Behinds| 56| 14| 5| +1.8| +2| 48| 12|
\Total Score| 482| 120.5| 2| +27.3| +26| 378| 94.5|
\Rushed Behinds| 13| 3.3|
\Goal assists| 48| 12| 2| +2.4| +4.3| 31| 7.8|
\Goal acc %| 55.9%| | 4| +3.3| +5| 50.9%| |
\Goal acc % excl rushed| 62.3%|
\Score ratio per i50| 55.2%| | 3| +6.96| +11.57| 43.6%| |
\Goal ratio per i50| 30.9%| | 2| +5.49| +7.56| 23.3%| |
\Interchanges| 344| 86| 8| +2.4| | | |

Player Stats

Rank| Kicks |#| Handballs |#| Disposals |#| Cont Poss |#
\1| Brodie Smith |60| Matt Crouch |61| Scott Thompson |114| Matt Crouch |53|
\2| Scott Thompson |54| Scott Thompson |60| Rory Laird |109| Scott Thompson |52|
\3| Rory Laird |53| Rory Laird |56| Matt Crouch |102| Rory Sloane |48|
\4| Richard Douglas |49| Rory Sloane |50| Brodie Smith |89| Eddie Betts |38|
\5| Luke Brown |43| Sam Jacobs |35| Rory Sloane |85| Richard Douglas |35|
\6| David Mackay |42| Rory Atkins |31| Richard Douglas |76| Rory Laird |35|
\7| Eddie Betts |41| Brodie Smith |29| David Mackay |68| Sam Jacobs |27|
\8| Matt Crouch |41| Paul Seedsman |29| Luke Brown |65| Kyle Cheney |24|
\9| Tom Lynch |41| Richard Douglas |27| Rory Atkins |65| Rory Atkins |23|
\10| Taylor Walker |39| David Mackay |26| Eddie Betts |63| Taylor Walker |23

Rank| Uncont Poss |#| Disp eff % |#| Clangers |#| Marks |#
\1| Rory Laird |76| Rory Atkins |85.3| Brodie Smith |15| Rory Laird |29|
\2| Brodie Smith |67| Kyle Cheney |83.4| Matt Crouch |13| Taylor Walker |27|
\3| Scott Thompson |63| Josh Jenkins |80.3| Scott Thompson |13| Jake Lever |21|
\4| Luke Brown |47| Eddie Betts |80.3| Rory Laird |11| Josh Jenkins |21|
\5| Matt Crouch |47| Paul Seedsman |80.2| Tom Lynch |11| Luke Brown |18|
\6| David Mackay |46| Rory Laird |78.2| Rory Sloane |10| Tom Lynch |18|
\7| Paul Seedsman |46| Kyle Hartigan |77.9| Sam Jacobs |10| Daniel Talia |17|
\8| Rory Atkins |42| Nathan Van Berlo |77.8| Richard Douglas |9| Mitch McGovern |17|
\9| Richard Douglas |41| Daniel Talia |77.4| Brad Crouch |8| Paul Seedsman |16|
\10| Rory Sloane |39| Rory Sloane |77.4| Kyle Cheney |8| Brodie Smith |15

Rank| Cont marks |#| Marks50 |#| Hit-outs |#| Clearances |#
\1| Taylor Walker |6| Josh Jenkins |10| Sam Jacobs |139| Scott Thompson |28|
\2| Jake Lever |4| Taylor Walker |9| Josh Jenkins |26| Matt Crouch |21|
\3| Mitch McGovern |4| Eddie Betts |6| Rory Sloane |12| Richard Douglas |19|
\4| Daniel Talia |3| Tom Lynch |5| Scott Thompson |1| Rory Sloane |19|
\5| Kyle Cheney |3| Mitch McGovern |3| || Brad Crouch |16|
\6| Rory Sloane |3| Jarryd Lyons |2| || Sam Jacobs |10|
\7| Sam Jacobs |3| Richard Douglas |2| || David Mackay |9|
\8| Josh Jenkins |2| Sam Jacobs |1| || Rory Atkins |8|
\9| Rory Laird |2| Wayne Milera |1| || Jarryd Lyons |7|
\10| Wayne Milera |2| || || Rory Laird |6

Rank| Centre clr |#| Stoppages |#| Rebound50 |#| Frees For |#
\1| Scott Thompson |12| Scott Thompson |16| Brodie Smith |23| Eddie Betts |9|
\2| Matt Crouch |9| Brad Crouch |12| Daniel Talia |17| Matt Crouch |7|
\3| Richard Douglas |9| Matt Crouch |12| Rory Laird |17| Scott Thompson |7|
\4| Rory Sloane |9| Richard Douglas |10| Jake Lever |14| Kyle Cheney |6|
\5| Sam Jacobs |6| Rory Sloane |10| Luke Brown |12| Richard Douglas |6|
\6| Brad Crouch |4| Rory Atkins |7| Kyle Cheney |11| Josh Jenkins |5|
\7| Jarryd Lyons |4| David Mackay |6| Kyle Hartigan |8| Tom Lynch |5|
\8| David Mackay |3| Tom Lynch |5| Richard Douglas |8| Wayne Milera |5|
\9| Mitch McGovern |2| Eddie Betts |4| Matt Crouch |7| Sam Jacobs |4|
\10| Rory Laird |2| Rory Laird |4| Rory Atkins |7| Brad Crouch |3

Rank| Frees Agst |#| Tackles |#| One %s |#| Bounces |#
\1| Scott Thompson |7| Scott Thompson |29| Daniel Talia |41| Brodie Smith |7|
\2| Matt Crouch |6| Matt Crouch |23| Jake Lever |24| David Mackay |5|
\3| Rory Sloane |6| Rory Sloane |23| Kyle Hartigan |20| Rory Atkins |4|
\4| Taylor Walker |6| Eddie Betts |18| Kyle Cheney |16| Paul Seedsman |3|
\5| Sam Jacobs |5| Paul Seedsman |17| Sam Jacobs |12| Brad Crouch |2|
\6| Brodie Smith |4| David Mackay |16| Brodie Smith |9| Rory Sloane |2|
\7| Rory Atkins |4| Richard Douglas |16| Josh Jenkins |9| Wayne Milera |2|
\8| David Mackay |3| Mitch McGovern |12| Rory Sloane |8| Luke Brown |1|
\9| Jake Lever |3| Luke Brown |11| Luke Brown |6| Richard Douglas |1|
\10| Kyle Cheney |3| Brodie Smith |9| Mitch McGovern |6| Tom Lynch |1

Rank| Inside50 |#| Goals |#| Behinds |#| Goal assists |#
\1| David Mackay |22| Eddie Betts |13| Taylor Walker |9| Josh Jenkins |6|
\2| Scott Thompson |19| Josh Jenkins |11| Eddie Betts |6| Eddie Betts |5|
\3| Brodie Smith |17| Tom Lynch |10| Josh Jenkins |6| Rory Sloane |5|
\4| Richard Douglas |13| Taylor Walker |9| Mitch McGovern |6| Jarryd Lyons |4|
\5| Rory Sloane |13| Mitch McGovern |5| Richard Douglas |3| David Mackay |3|
\6| Taylor Walker |13| Richard Douglas |5| Tom Lynch |3| Scott Thompson |3|
\7| Tom Lynch |13| Paul Seedsman |3| Wayne Milera |3| Wayne Milera |3|
\8| Rory Atkins |12| Brad Crouch |2| David Mackay |2| Brodie Smith |2|
\9| Paul Seedsman |11| Brodie Smith |2| Rory Sloane |2| Matt Crouch |2|
\10| Josh Jenkins |10| Jarryd Lyons |2| Jake Lever |1| Mitch McGovern |2

Rank| Goal acc % |#| Time On Ground % |#| AFL Fantasy |#| Exie |#
\1| Brad Crouch |100| Daniel Talia |94.3| Scott Thompson |440| Scott Thompson |515|
\2| Brodie Smith |100| Josh Jenkins |91.5| Rory Laird |390| Rory Laird |464|
\3| Jarryd Lyons |100| Eddie Betts |89.3| Eddie Betts |374| Eddie Betts |458|
\4| Paul Seedsman |100| Kyle Hartigan |88.7| Rory Sloane |346| Matt Crouch |407|
\5| Rory Atkins |100| Luke Brown |87.8| Matt Crouch |342| Rory Sloane |407|
\6| Rory Laird |100| Tom Lynch |87.3| Josh Jenkins |324| Josh Jenkins |403|
\7| Sam Jacobs |100| Kyle Cheney |87.3| Brodie Smith |322| Taylor Walker |384|
\8| Eddie Betts |68.4| Sam Jacobs |87| Richard Douglas |322| Richard Douglas |375|
\9| Tom Lynch |66.7| Taylor Walker |86.8| Sam Jacobs |321| Brodie Smith |372|
\10| Josh Jenkins |61.1| Jake Lever |86.3| Taylor Walker |299| Tom Lynch |359

 

[VSTone]

David Mackay watch - just because it's interesting...

Disposals - 10th
Effective disposal % - 20th
Metres Gained - 3rd
Inside 50s - 1st
Goal Assists - equal 7th
Score Involvements - equal 8th
One percenters - equal 14th

I was a critic last year and I think he fully deserved to be dropped from the side. However, this year he has been a very good contributor and despite continued calls for him to be dropped, I just don't see how you can given his current form and output... Though his use of the ball this year hasn't been as good as in the past... I think that's pretty much the only knock on him this year.

i find it interesting that he's the number 1 on inside 50's yet only 7th on Assists and 8th on score involvements
and near last on effective disposal...

in short this screams - gets it and hacks it long into the forward line - sando style footy

 

[Danoz]

My power ranking attempt

 

[Ozzie]

Re D-Mac: Haters gonna hate!

 

[Allefgib]

Don't like the Rat being so low on score involvements. It's like his clever work mucks us up downfield or something?? Or just til the last game he didn't have enough ball period?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Jenkins game probably a bit underrated on weekend - had plenty hits to advantage and 10 score involvements

And shook Kieran Jack off pretty easily

Hartigan's intercept and intercept mark stats are bl00dy impressive

Sign that he's growing in confidence - hence the better decision making and kicking that follows

 

[Danoz]

Jenkins game probably a bit underrated on weekend - had plenty hits to advantage and 10 score involvements

And shook Kieran Jack off pretty easily

Hartigan's intercept and intercept mark stats are bl00dy impressive

Sign that he's growing in confidence - hence the better decision making and kicking that follows

He's slowly learning when to leave his man to affect other contests as third man in. It's great to watch.

 

[Tex200]

Don't like the Rat being so low on score involvements. It's like his clever work mucks us up downfield or something?? Or just til the last game he didn't have enough ball period?

I've just pasted below the Knightmare phantom which has him going 29 ironically to Port.

It's interesting reading and sums him up pretty well.

He got rolling with some score involvement Sat but generally speaking I think his real value will be the 2nd link in the chain ie he's the first port of call for a quick clearance, and, although still in traffic, gets us moving with the right decision.

Sat night told me that he may one day be a very important finals contributor being one of those "good drivers in heavy traffic" types.

#29 Port Adelaide (Compensation Pick) – Rory Atkins (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 183cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB:12/07/1994
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 25-50
Profile: Atkins is a forward who can also push up into the midfield. Excellent by both hand and foot rarely missing a target. What makes him stand out is his decision making under pressure and his ball use in congestion, making decisions quickly and makes the right ones consistently. Strong overhead at his size. Has some pace and can burst away. Running ability has much improved and has really built that ability to push up the ground and get his hands on the ball more. Just needs to figure out how to do it against stronger opposition next. Feels too outside for my liking and I’d like to see him win more of his own ball and that will be the next stage for him.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Don't like the Rat being so low on score involvements. It's like his clever work mucks us up downfield or something?? Or just til the last game he didn't have enough ball period?

Prior to last week, he and Seed were playing more from defensive fifty and getting it from there to the middle of the ground. This week both he and Seed were going more into the forward area instead.

 

[Allefgib]

Can someone confirm a score involvement occurs for anyone involved in a passage of play where you're team retains possession the whole time and then your team scores?

That's my understanding.

e.g. a kick in from full back through multiple sets of hands that goes end to end and results in a goal is a score involvement for everyone in the team who had a possession in that chain of play?

 

[displacedaussie]

Can someone confirm a score involvement occurs for anyone involved in a passage of play where you're team retains possession the whole time and then your team scores?

From here:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...5/news-story/0261a445e554bc1431161c87029a8935

A player is credited with a score involvement for being involved in a chain of possession that leads to a score. This can include disposals, hit-outs to advantage, kick-ins or knock ons. If a player has two disposals in the same scoring chain, he is only credited with one score involvement.

 

[Vader]

Can someone confirm a score involvement occurs for anyone involved in a passage of play where you're team retains possession the whole time and then your team scores?

That's my understanding.

e.g. a kick in from full back through multiple sets of hands that goes end to end and results in a goal is a score involvement for everyone in the team who had a possession in that chain of play?

I believe that's the case. Anyone involved in the chain of play, from the first person who takes possession of the ball (after the opposition's last possession).

Score Assist is awarded to the last player in the chain, prior to the player who actually scores.