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Trade Sidebottom to St Kilda for Patty McCartin. Swap our first pick for their first pick, not the Hawthorn one, and that should get it done. Saints could have 2 picks in the top 4 and set them up. With their list with the way it is, they might see it as a great opportunity to go to the next level. We'd still get a first round pick and a key forward. Go for Sam Reid in free agency and then Moore is now getting the 3rd best defender whilst he develops. Must give up something of value to get value back. Even pay some of Sidebottoms salary to get it over the line.
 
The most overrated player in modern Collingwood history.

His defensive efforts are child-like, his kicking is crap, has no idea how to weight his kicks.. half the time they land a metre short... he doesn't get ANY hard ball... just a weak outside mid with no hurt factor and no defensive efforts.

Pack him up at the end of the year and pray someone is stupid enough to give us a late 1st round pick for him.
I'm starting to agree.
He needs a change. He, as well as 80% of the team look stale and bored.
 
Trade Sidebottom to St Kilda for Patty McCartin. Swap our first pick for their first pick, not the Hawthorn one, and that should get it done. Saints could have 2 picks in the top 4 and set them up. With their list with the way it is, they might see it as a great opportunity to go to the next level. We'd still get a first round pick and a key forward. Go for Sam Reid in free agency and then Moore is now getting the 3rd best defender whilst he develops. Must give up something of value to get value back. Even pay some of Sidebottoms salary to get it over the line.
IMO, McCartin is a bust.
To Adelaide. Lever..... would they be so stupid?
 

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My phone autocorrected Sidebottom to Sore Bottom.
I think this forum is a better place for knowing that.

On topic, he's not setting the world on fire but he is talented and a hard worker, some of the invective is a bit over the top.
Spending more time in our dysfunctional forward line, no?
His disposal by foot has been subpar on the shorter passes.
 
McCartin just kicked 7 in the VFL

If Moore did that we'd confess him the second coming.

Having said that, no way I'd pay premium for him with his concussion issues
How many bags has he kicked in the 2s?... not many.
And who was it against?.... us.
IMO he has too many fitness issues.
Not worth a first rounder.
(And definitely not a number 1 pick).
 
Sidey a bit of a curiosity for me. Like a number have highlighted his disposal rarely hits the mark on the full often falling short. I don't see his metres gained but he isnt the most attacking mid going around.
Yet the media loves him as do a number of my mates who barrack for other teams.
He would be the number one carrot in our draft activities come year end.
He would attract a high single digit pick imho.
His lack of leg speed won't effect contending teams who already have leg speed on their list.
He has been a great servant for the club,
But would probably benefit from a change of scene. Maybe GWS as a replacement for Steve J. Saints and Melb other possible homes.
We need to go after KPP in draft and free agency.
Sam R probably the stand out fa although he makes Crisp look consistent. Mccartin would be interesting but concussion is md issue.
Won't happen but CSaboult with his improved kicking would be a great sidekick to a developing Moore.
Cloke would have been too
That's enough I am going off topic and getting sadder with our state of list management player development
 
Trade Sidebottom to St Kilda for Patty McCartin. Swap our first pick for their first pick, not the Hawthorn one, and that should get it done. Saints could have 2 picks in the top 4 and set them up. With their list with the way it is, they might see it as a great opportunity to go to the next level. We'd still get a first round pick and a key forward. Go for Sam Reid in free agency and then Moore is now getting the 3rd best defender whilst he develops. Must give up something of value to get value back. Even pay some of Sidebottoms salary to get it over the line.
Your close. I would get Adams out. For reasons to many too mention.
 
Trade Sidebottom to St Kilda for Patty McCartin. Swap our first pick for their first pick, not the Hawthorn one, and that should get it done. Saints could have 2 picks in the top 4 and set them up. With their list with the way it is, they might see it as a great opportunity to go to the next level. We'd still get a first round pick and a key forward. Go for Sam Reid in free agency and then Moore is now getting the 3rd best defender whilst he develops. Must give up something of value to get value back. Even pay some of Sidebottoms salary to get it over the line.
Love the name
 

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Wonder if his kicking would have improved under a different coaching regime?
After all, his development of skills mirrors that of his team mates since 2011.

Was it the coaches fault he went M.I.A yesterday also Black_White?
 
When we are losing or lost a game any one is an easy target.
Sidebottom last year was one of our most important player with elite skills and a top 5 pick
Just ****en ease up and use common sense kiddies


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I was about to start this thread. He's been our most disappointing player in 2017 by far. Nothing has happened to him health wise, and yet he's completely lost all his hurt factor. 20 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles today; all of which meant nothing. Terrible terrible performance. He's just he's had Wells in for the last two weeks out to cover him up.
20 disposals....I think I counted 6 in the back pocket in the last qtr. Probably 4 actual effective disposals...and by effective I don't mean supercoach junk effective, I mean actually were useful to the team.
 
In another thread you called our entire list "hopeless" but now saying Sidebottom is overrated is poor form.... Gee it must be hard for you to post from up there on that high horse :$
I'd say he'd be correct. Look we're we are. Hardly world beaters are we.
 
We're talking about Sidebottom that has been our best player on plenty of occasions in the last 3/4 years while our captain has been "injured"?
The Sidebottom that's played a massive part in the flag?
The Sidebottom that took unders to stay at the club?
The Sidebottom that has been a massive supporter of our current coach while most of the senior players looked at him with disdain?
The Sidebottom that's had 2 okayish games in a row followed by yesterday stinker?

Yep, get rid of him and all our problems will be solved immediately :thumbsu:
 

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Was it the coaches fault, it's the coaches fault. he went M.I.A yesterday also Black_White?
Well, there are some circumstances not widely known.
But yes, it's the coaches fault.

P.S. Love how one bad game gets you traded at the Pies.
It's a wonder Pendlebury is still here.
 
Well, there are some circumstances not widely known.
But yes, it's the coaches fault.

P.S. Love how one bad game gets you traded at the Pies.
It's a wonder Pendlebury is still here.

Like you said you have blinkers on when it comes to Steele.
 
Read from another poster in the vent thread that he ranks 317th in the comp for metres gained per match but in the top 50 for disposals which shows his hurt factor. Just screws around with little chips and hand passes with no hurt factor
 

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