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Bunk Moreland

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He's certainly painted as one here


- As everybody knows, he sat outside in the car recently while the rest of the family joined Jack in the Carlton rooms for his 100th game

- Doesn't get on with any of his former teammates except Craig Bradley. “The hardest thing in the world would be to reunite the ’95 premiership team members,” one former Blue said. “A lot of that is because of SOS.”

- When Brendon Bolton dropped Jack, Stephen cracked the shits and stopped talking to him. Fairly amazing behaviour for a list manager toward a senior coach

- Cain Liddle therefore decided SOS had to go. SOS just ignored him and decided he only had to answer to the president (and his good friend) Mark LoGiudice.

- LoGiudice eventually had to sack SOS himself, bit of a bizarre thing for a president to have to do, but it's like SOS wouldn't accept it from anybody else. He left and no longer speaks to LoGiudice

- Brian Cook, who replaced Liddle as Carlton CEO in 2022, says he is somewhat confused and disappointed by the strained relationship with the club great. “In a nutshell I haven’t spent a lot of time on it, I’ve asked various people and got various commentary,” Cook said. “If someone said to me to try to explain the relationship, I couldn’t."

Is this some sort of hit job? Is there another side to the story or is he just a dickhead?
 
Bunk Moreland said:
He's certainly painted as one here


- As everybody knows, he sat outside in the car recently while the rest of the family joined Jack in the Carlton rooms for his 100th game

- Doesn't get on with any of his former teammates except Craig Bradley. “The hardest thing in the world would be to reunite the ’95 premiership team members,” one former Blue said. “A lot of that is because of SOS.”

- When Brendon Bolton dropped Jack, Stephen cracked the shits and stopped talking to him. Fairly amazing behaviour for a list manager toward a senior coach

- Cain Liddle therefore decided SOS had to go. SOS just ignored him and decided he only had to answer to the president (and his good friend) Mark LoGiudice.

- LoGiudice eventually had to sack SOS himself, bit of a bizarre thing for a president to have to do, but it's like SOS wouldn't accept it from anybody else. He left and no longer speaks to LoGiudice

- Brian Cook, who replaced Liddle as Carlton CEO in 2022, says he is somewhat confused and disappointed by the strained relationship with the club great. “In a nutshell I haven’t spent a lot of time on it, I’ve asked various people and got various commentary,” Cook said. “If someone said to me to try to explain the relationship, I couldn’t."

Is this some sort of hit job? Is there another side to the story or is he just a dickhead?
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Happens at all clubs.
Sad for us Carlton people and sad internally for all concerned.
Best not to be spoken about.
 

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Bunk Moreland said:
He's certainly painted as one here



- Doesn't get on with any of his former teammates except Craig Bradley. “The hardest thing in the world would be to reunite the ’95 premiership team members,” one former Blue said. “A lot of that is because of SOS.”
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Isn't this due to him and Bradley coming forward in the salary cap investigation.
 
Woody15 said:
To not go into the rooms for your son's milestone game even though all the people involved are no longer at the club, is some low level, petty crap.

Sounds like not only do the past administrators of the club think he is a dick, so do many of his ex teammates.
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Agree - reminds me of Kevin Bartletts self-imposed exile from Richmond where said he wouldn't return until all the committee that had overseen his sacking as coach were gone. Took about 20 years !!
 
Woody15 said:
To not go into the rooms for your son's milestone game even though all the people involved are no longer at the club, is some low level, petty crap.

Sounds like not only do the past administrators of the club think he is a dick, so do many of his ex teammates.
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Devil’s advocate, maybe he just genuinely felt uncomfortable and didn’t want his presence to be a Debbie Downer, cause problems or take the focus off Jack?
 
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Woody15 said:
To not go into the rooms for your son's milestone game even though all the people involved are no longer at the club, is some low level, petty crap.

Sounds like not only do the past administrators of the club think he is a dick, so do many of his ex teammates.
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Regarding SOS not going in the rooms after Jack's 100th game, that story has been well detailed that he didn't feel comfortable given he's the list manager at another club. If he did go in the rooms it's just as much of a story as it supposedly is that he wasn't in the rooms.
He was at the game and apparently has a great relationship with his family so for me this is aspect is being blown out of proportion.
The whole story regarding his relationship with premiership teammates on the other hand doesn't paint him in the best light.
 
1988- Practice match at Waverley - 3/4 time.

Rhys-Jones gees the group up and asks everyone to get up and start stretching - me and a mate are standing right there.

Everyone goes into warm up, except SOS and the recruit he’s talking to...he continues to lounge on the grass.

Clearly a head thats needed deflating for a long time.....
 

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AndyLucimitis said:
Agree - reminds me of Kevin Bartletts self-imposed exile from Richmond where said he wouldn't return until all the committee that had overseen his sacking as coach were gone. Took about 20 years !!
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I agree. I think it's best when the star player works elsewhere in their post-playing era. They can't leave the ego at the door. KB was no Ron Barassi when it came to coaching and the way he sooked after his contract wasn't renewed (wasn't sacked) was a disgrace. Made me cringe every time he banged on about us once we started winning flags again. Sounds like the SOS stuff is very similar
 
FrustratedTiger said:
I agree. I think it's best when the star player works elsewhere in their post-playing era. They can't leave the ego at the door. KB was no Ron Barassi when it came to coaching and the way he sooked after his contract wasn't renewed (wasn't sacked) was a disgrace. Made me cringe every time he banged on about us once we started winning flags again. Sounds like the SOS stuff is very similar
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In his 4 years of coaching Tigers finished
10th, 14th, 10th, 11th

In a 14 team competition

Results suggest there was a reason he was shown the door
 
Gavin Excell said:
In his 4 years of coaching Tigers finished
10th, 14th, 10th, 11th

In a 14 team competition

Results suggest there was a reason he was shown the door
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100%. We were broke but the team was crap and KB couldn't coach. The club had every reason not to renew his contract. And he carried on like an entitled twat publicly for years afterwards. SOS appears to be behaving similarly, albietly without a microphone to trumpet his displeasure into at every opportunity
 
FrustratedTiger said:
I agree. I think it's best when the star player works elsewhere in their post-playing era. They can't leave the ego at the door. KB was no Ron Barassi when it came to coaching and the way he sooked after his contract wasn't renewed (wasn't sacked) was a disgrace. Made me cringe every time he banged on about us once we started winning flags again. Sounds like the SOS stuff is very similar
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My memory of it was Richmond were broke and pretty much couldn't recruit so KB was forced to play youngsters despite them not being ready for it. They sacked him and got Allan Jeans and they were even worse and he quit after a year. He had every right to be upset at the time but he probably should've moved on a bit quicker.
 
At least he didn't belt the living suitcases out of his wife, unlike another star key position player of that era. I reckon SOS would be a better bloke than most of the Carlton old boys
 
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