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Originally posted by Tim56
He's more than welcome to come back to Melbourne

Sure he has he is still the best player in afl and will play for at least another 5 years.
 
brisbane wont give away mal michael after his performance in the grand final. why would they?
 

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Still no clear cut destination for Stevens IMO.

Melbourne want him but they don't need him
WB see Melbourne
Essendon can't afford him/won't give up picks for him
Collingwood want him but have nothing to give for him
Carlton see Collingwood
 
The deal should b expected to take place either today or tomorrow but they dont want to rush anything so it might even b the last day
 
Originally posted by bozza
Still no clear cut destination for Stevens IMO.

Melbourne want him but they don't need him
WB see Melbourne
Essendon can't afford him/won't give up picks for him
Collingwood want him but have nothing to give for him
Carlton see Collingwood
Melbourne & the Dogs need him, but they will need to clear out a player or two on decent money to get him. Hence their hesitation IMO.

I'd be shocked if Essendon could afford him, even if Jacobs and/or Bolton was the trade.

Carlton are in the box seat, but you'd have to be stoopid to trade pick 2 for Stevens (but it is Carlton after all).

Collingwood aren't stoopid enough to trade Didak + 17 or Prestigiacomo + 17 for Stevens. Take off pick 17 of those deals and we still aren't stoopid enough to do them. All we can do, is afford Stevens' demands and offer pick 17, a second round pick (24?) and/or a hard inside midfielder in McGough (who I rate highly and feel is unfairly maligned).

Personally, I think if Port can shake the Dees, Dogs or Filth of one of their top 5 draft picks, then good on them. If not, come and see us Friday arvo and we'll give you something palatable!
 
Essendon are out of the running for Stevens - can;t afford to pay him was basically what the club said - and why would we pay him $500,000 when he wouldn;t even be in our best 5 or 6 players anyway.
 
Originally posted by Pevers-Legend
Essendon are out of the running for Stevens - can;t afford to pay him was basically what the club said - and why would we pay him $500,000 when he wouldn;t even be in our best 5 or 6 players anyway.
Yes he would.
 
I agree with Pevers on this one. He wouldn't be in our top five and it's just too much $$$ to begin with. Look at the trouble we had with Solly.
Carlton are in the box seat at the mo with that number 2 draft pick, which is a shame cause they don't deserve him.
The Pies have the $$$ but are not willing to let others go for nothing. The Dees remain the Dark Horse, don't write them off yet.
Maybe they won't find a deal and he'll go into the draft, where he becomes an amazing get for someone like the Doggies. But then again they've always maintained they'll get tht young bloke from SA, Cooney. He's going to be a true champion.

We'll see come Friday.
 
Originally posted by Porthos
Yes he would.

Pothos - this is not an attack on him as a player- I think he is a terrific player - but he isn't as good as our top 5 players- nor would I suspect he be in your top 5 players - not far outside - but not quite in the top echelon - hence why 500k is just ludicrous.
 
stevens would not be in essendons top 5

hird
lloyd
fletcher
lucas
ramamnauskas
jjohnson

all better

thats coming from a collingwood fan
 
Originally posted by electricsix
stevens would not be in essendons top 5

hird
lloyd
fletcher
lucas
ramamnauskas
jjohnson

all better

thats coming from a collingwood fan

Hird, Lloyd and Fletcher are better.

J.Johnson is equal of N.Stevens, Johnson is a better inside midfielder, Stevens a better outside midfielder.

Ramanauskas and Lucas are nowhere near as good as Stevens.
 

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Originally posted by Zombie
Hird, Lloyd and Fletcher are better.

J.Johnson is equal of N.Stevens, Johnson is a better inside midfielder, Stevens a better outside midfielder.

Ramanauskas and Lucas are nowhere near as good as Stevens.

Yeah that's a fair opinion.... but surely Mark Johnson is better than him?.... don't forget that Lucas had a fantastic year and was EFC Best n Fairest.
 
Originally posted by Zombie
Ramanauskas and Lucas are nowhere near as good as Stevens.

Beg to differ. Had Lucas been more flashy he would have been AA CHB this year.

And when Ramma overcomes his cancer - he will be unleashed - he would have done it this year but it will have to be next year. He will take the stpe up and become the best winman in the game. Big call I know - but he is a gun.
 
Originally posted by Zombie
Hird, Lloyd and Fletcher are better.

J.Johnson is equal of N.Stevens, Johnson is a better inside midfielder, Stevens a better outside midfielder.

Ramanauskas and Lucas are nowhere near as good as Stevens.

Agree on the first two counts, and half disagree on the last.

Lucas is as good as Stevens. Stevens is a very good midfielder, but not in the same league as Voss, Buckley, Black, Crawford, Cousins, etc. Lucas is the same: a very good key position player, but not up with the likes of Lloyd, Tredrea, Leppitsch, Tarrant, Hall, etc.

As for Ramanauskas, I think Adam will become a better player than Stevens will, but Stevens has the score on the board. At the start of the year Rama started to put it all together and have a big impact on games, but unfortunately that didn't last long.
 
Originally posted by Ari
Yeah that's a fair opinion.... but surely Mark Johnson is better than him?.... don't forget that Lucas had a fantastic year and was EFC Best n Fairest.

Mark Johnson better than Stevens? Come on Ari, you know better than that! MJ will become a very good midfielder once he starts to pick the right option and clean up his disposal a little, but he's a far cry from Stevens.
 
Im a big mj fan, but there is no way he is betta than stevens. Johno is a betta player to watch cos he's such a tough nut, but his disposal skills are lagging. Stevens is all class and racks up 30 possies a game.

They're two completely different players so it would be hard to compare, but i think that stevens is definately betta than johno.

No chance of stevens coming to the dons tho as we all know!
 
Originally posted by Millar
Im a big mj fan, but there is no way he is betta than stevens. Johno is a betta player to watch cos he's such a tough nut, but his disposal skills are lagging. Stevens is all class and racks up 30 possies a game.

They're two completely different players so it would be hard to compare, but i think that stevens is definately betta than johno.

No chance of stevens coming to the dons tho as we all know!
Lets get back to reality.

PLUS
Stevens is a ball magnet.
His disposal is very good when he doesn't feel under pressure.


MINUS
It can be absolutely woeful when he feels under pressure. He can miss the easiest of goals, and make some terrible decisions.
He could benifit greatly from having some of MJ's determination and guts.


He has great unfullfilled potential, but until he stops being soft he will not deliver it. He gave the impression for a few games after Francou got injured that he had turned the corner, but sadly that didn't last too long.
He has been the largest cause of frustration to the Port fans closely followed by Chad Cornes and Choco.

No I am not bitter because he is leaving. Personally I am glad we are trading him if we get something good in return.
 

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There is not much point in discussing this anymore because b4 u know it the trade will b made.
 
Originally posted by David_02
There is not much point in discussing this anymore because b4 u know it the trade will b made.

Yeah...and you will be wrong David 02 cos he aint going to Essendon.
 
bozza u have no idea. Its his decision where he goes and from what i have heard he is definatly goin to essendon just wait and see lil man.
 
Originally posted by David_02
bozza u have no idea. Its his decision where he goes and from what i have heard he is definatly goin to essendon just wait and see lil man.

You must have one of those dual purpose arseh*le's david..because you do speak out of it a lot
 
Originally posted by David_02
bozza u have no idea. Its his decision where he goes and from what i have heard he is definatly goin to essendon just wait and see lil man.

If "definatly" means "not" then you are totally correct.
 

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