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He has been very good this year. I think he is just about the only established player who has stepped up a notch this year.

He is kicking all these goals while spending a bit more time in the midfield.

Go you good thing.
 

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Its pretty scary - and pathetic to be honest - that Stiffy is our leading goalkicker yet again. Until we possess key tall forwards who regularly kick mulitiple goals we will struggle to be a legitimate force. IMO Welsh needs to play from the goal-square - it looked like he was playing off a wing against the Saints.

Rutten should be given a run at FF at some stage as well. He is a big body, and did well against Freo last year where he took three marks and kicked three goals before Garry put him on the pine :confused:

I know everyone says Rutten isn't superquick but Lloyd isn't either. I think Rutten could still become a quality FF.

Oh, and go you good thing Stiffy. :)
 

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Originally posted by McLeod23
I know everyone says Rutten isn't superquick but Lloyd isn't either. I think Rutten could still become a quality FF.
Disagree there, Lloyd's as good a forward as any on the lead.

But I do agree that Rutten deserves more chances.
 

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Originally posted by McLeod23
Its pretty scary - and pathetic to be honest - that Stiffy is our leading goalkicker yet again. Until we possess key tall forwards who regularly kick mulitiple goals we will struggle to be a legitimate force. IMO Welsh needs to play from the goal-square - it looked like he was playing off a wing against the Saints.

Rutten should be given a run at FF at some stage as well. He is a big body, and did well against Freo last year where he took three marks and kicked three goals before Garry put him on the pine :confused:

I know everyone says Rutten isn't superquick but Lloyd isn't either. I think Rutten could still become a quality FF.

Oh, and go you good thing Stiffy. :)
Welshy is in seriously bad form. I haven't seen him struggle like this since 2001 season where we played him in the midfield to try and get him in some form.

Welshy was given one asignement against Saints and that was to tackle and put the pressure on a ball carrier. I thought he did this well. Lets hope he kicks a bag on Telstra Dome which should suit all the forwards.

If Welshy doesn't start kicking goals soon he will be dropped.
 
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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Welshy is in seriously bad form. I haven't seen him struggle like this since 2001 season where we played him in the midfield to try and get him in some form.

Welshy was given one asignement against Saints and that was to tackle and put the pressure on a ball carrier. I thought he did this well. Lets hope he kicks a bag on Telstra Dome which should suit all the forwards.

If Welshy doesn't start kicking goals soon he will be dropped.
Play Welsh as our leading FF. He is a capable forward (& we don't have many of them!), so training him with the midfield group last week is pure stupidity in my book.
 

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Play Welsh as our leading FF. He is a capable forward (& we don't have many of them!), so training him with the midfield group last week is pure stupidity in my book.
Disagree.

When a player is out of form the best thing for them is to touch the footy as often as possible. Welsh is not going to do that at FF especially with the delivery that we are dishing out lately. Last place you would want him is at FF where he WILL NOT get his hands on the ball.
 
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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Disagree.

When a player is out of form the best thing for them is to touch the footy as often as possible. Welsh is not going to do that at FF especially with the delivery that we are dishing out lately. Last place you would want him is at FF where he WILL NOT get his hands on the ball.
Welsh is a forward not a midfielder. If he can't get back into form playing for Adelaide, drop him. Less likely to get his hands on the ball playing on a flank. Make him the leading target!

What was his best game last year? Playing FF 1-out (against 4 different opponents) against Essendon. Was a matchwinner & still can be if used correctly.
 

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Welsh is a forward not a midfielder. If he can't get back into form playing for Adelaide, drop him. Less likely to get his hands on the ball playing on a flank. Make him the leading target!

What was his best game last year? Playing FF 1-out (against 4 different opponents) against Essendon. Was a matchwinner & still can be if used correctly.
Not quite.

Welshy is more of a utility. IIRC He was pretty goon in the midfield in 2001 when we threw him there to get some form. In 6-7 games he played there he averaged 20 possesions.

Yes Welshy's best game last year was as a leading FF against Essendon but one thing you are forgetting that he was in form then. Now he is badly out of form.

So by your reckoning, McLeod is our best midfielder and shouldn't be played as a HBF.

Getting an out of form player around where the action is, is one way of getting them out of form slump. I have no problem in playing Welsh further up the ground so he can get a bit more of the ball to get his confidence up. If that doesn't work then drop him.
 

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Not quite.

Welshy is more of a utility. IIRC He was pretty goon in the midfield in 2001 when we threw him there to get some form. In 6-7 games he played there he averaged 20 possesions.

Yes Welshy's best game last year was as a leading FF against Essendon but one thing you are forgetting that he was in form then. Now he is badly out of form.

So by your reckoning, McLeod is our best midfielder and shouldn't be played as a HBF.

Getting an out of form player around where the action is, is one way of getting them out of form slump. I have no problem in playing Welsh further up the ground so he can get a bit more of the ball to get his confidence up. If that doesn't work then drop him.
Agree with Kane that he is a forward and at very best only a pinch hitter in the midfield

Reason is that his decision making and disposal are bloody terrible most of the time. But generally his leading and kicking for goal has been good

He is on thin ice at the moment.

Perhaps send him back to the SANFL where he can play on the ball for four quarters and get some confidence back where his disposal wont be under as much pressure.
 
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Originally posted by Stiffy_18

If Welshy doesn't start kicking goals soon he will be dropped.
Particularly if Jericho can continue to do what he did last game.
Very similar players, and Welsh may find himself in the SANFL.

Having said that, he's too good a player to be down for too long. Expect a big game soon.
 
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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Play Welsh as our leading FF. He is a capable forward (& we don't have many of them!), so training him with the midfield group last week is pure stupidity in my book.
Not if the plan was to interchange Burton and Welsh, between forward and wing, during games?
 

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18

Getting an out of form player around where the action is, is one way of getting them out of form slump. I have no problem in playing Welsh further up the ground so he can get a bit more of the ball to get his confidence up. If that doesn't work then drop him.
Another way for an out of form player to get themselves out of a slump is to take their football a bit more seriously and stop getting plastered when they go out.

Excessive drinking during the footy season can't help anybody's game.
 

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Originally posted by macca23
Another way for an out of form player to get themselves out of a slump is to take their football a bit more seriously and stop getting plastered when they go out.

Excessive drinking during the footy season can't help anybody's game.
exactly, know what you mean.

The olny player I have ever seen out sober is Johncock. Tells you a few things I think.
 

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If scott Welsh is out of form and by having him at FF is not going to help him regain his form, why not have him tag K Johnson( the ball is not coming to him, so take him to the ball) this week surly his fitness would be able to last one quarter and then go to a forward pocket for the next and try again in the third.


Just an idea
 

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Originally posted by macca23
Another way for an out of form player to get themselves out of a slump is to take their football a bit more seriously and stop getting plastered when they go out.

Excessive drinking during the footy season can't help anybody's game.
Yeah well that must be a given.

Excessive drinking must be banned through the season. Any professional athlete should be smart enough to know that p|ss can't be good for you when you are in th emiddle of the season.

During the off-season by all means get as smashed as you want.


Jars458, thats why Johncock should be our next captain.
 

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Looks a fair chance to be part of the future leadership group. IMO, Kenny is also likely to be part of it.
I think you make a fair point in regard t Kenny.

I just hope we settle him down at CHB.
 

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Originally posted by Jars458
exactly, know what you mean.

The olny player I have ever seen out sober is Johncock. Tells you a few things I think.
You could say that Graham must be very boring in real life. ;)


And... Kris Massie for future Crows captain. You heard it here first.
 
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