Still a Chance for the Top 8

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Looking at all the negativity that has been around the club over the last week, it could go away as quickly as it came with a few wins. Looking at the remaining games it should still be achievable for a top 8 and CC stays on as a great success.

Adelaide (away) - tough game away but winnable. We won there last year.
WBulldogs (home) - easy game to win as BD are poor away from Melb.
Carlton (away) – wooden spooners and easy away win.
Melbourne (home) – soft, beat them once away and will do at Subi.
Pies (away) – thrashed them once this season and should be a winnable game.
Richmond (home) – also poor away team, so a win.
WCE (Subi) – we were unlucky earlier and the boys will come up specially for a good win.
St Kilda (home) – they do not like Subi so a win.
Port (away) – tough game away but they are beatable this year. We have done it once.

I predict that we will win 7 of the remaining 9 games which gives a total of 48 points and finish 7th position and have a good finals.

Then what are all you CC knockers going to say then. The board, Shwabby and CC are still confident.
 

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Looking at all the negativity that has been around the club over the last week, it could go away as quickly as it came with a few wins. Looking at the remaining games it should still be achievable for a top 8 and CC stays on as a great success.

Adelaide (away) - tough game away but winnable. We won there last year.
WBulldogs (home) - easy game to win as BD are poor away from Melb.
Carlton (away) – wooden spooners and easy away win.
Melbourne (home) – soft, beat them once away and will do at Subi.
Pies (away) – thrashed them once this season and should be a winnable game.
Richmond (home) – also poor away team, so a win.
WCE (Subi) – we were unlucky earlier and the boys will come up specially for a good win.
St Kilda (home) – they do not like Subi so a win.
Port (away) – tough game away but they are beatable this year. We have done it once.

I predict that we will win 7 of the remaining 9 games which gives a total of 48 points and finish 7th position and have a good finals.

Then what are all you CC knockers going to say then. The board, Shwabby and CC are still confident.
You're fooling yourself esp. Port at home (slightly different team to the round 1 rabble) Seems you lot have to learn the hard way
 

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Not sure if we will make it, but I reckon 11 wins will be enough. The slime next door got in with 11 wins recently and Brisbane have got in twice with 10 wins so may not need 12.

At their best of course they can make it, but they lack key players and confidence at the moment.
 

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Admire your optimism dwayo. There will be a few thousand happy little vegemites if your predictions proove correct.

As for beating Port in round 22. If we have our 'A' game/team on the park its a real chance. We come off three weeks at home and port come off a tough 2 weeks. If they drop the showdown and and Brizzy stitch them up they will hanging by a thread.

But that means sweet f/a if we cant put a few wins together between now and then.
 

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Funny this thread started really because i was thinking the same thing.

This is how i see things:

Adelaide (away) - 48+ point loss
WBulldogs (home) - 15+ point win
Carlton (away) – 30+ point win
Melbourne (home) – 10 point loss
Pies (away) – 23+ point win
Richmond (home) – 50+ point win
WCE (Subi) – 50/50 game
St Kilda (home) – another 50-50 game. We should win one of our last 3.
Port (away) – We won't win this, port playing for their season at home. POrt by 30+ points.

So i think we will finish on 9 wins, which is bottom 6. But having said that, we could still finish on 11 or even 12 wins with some luck, but we are going to have to have some luck with injuries in the second part of the year.
 

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Dwayo said:
Looking at all the negativity that has been around the club over the last week, it could go away as quickly as it came with a few wins. Looking at the remaining games it should still be achievable for a top 8 and CC stays on as a great success.

Adelaide (away) - tough game away but winnable. We won there last year.
WBulldogs (home) - easy game to win as BD are poor away from Melb.
Carlton (away) – wooden spooners and easy away win.
Melbourne (home) – soft, beat them once away and will do at Subi.
Pies (away) – thrashed them once this season and should be a winnable game.
Richmond (home) – also poor away team, so a win.
WCE (Subi) – we were unlucky earlier and the boys will come up specially for a good win.
St Kilda (home) – they do not like Subi so a win.
Port (away) – tough game away but they are beatable this year. We have done it once.

I predict that we will win 7 of the remaining 9 games which gives a total of 48 points and finish 7th position and have a good finals.

Then what are all you CC knockers going to say then. The board, Shwabby and CC are still confident.
Mate, Brisbane and Hawthorn are absolute shockers in Perth, yet we still got belted by them at Subi. I wouldnt be confident about any team at subi just on away from home form.

I reckon we'd be lucky to have 9 wins.

Only a drastic change of improvement would see us win 7 out of 9 games required to make the eight.
 

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auste1234 said:
Funny this thread started really because i was thinking the same thing.


WCE (Subi) – 50/50 game

I see that as slightly insulting.
Derbies in the last few years have always been close. I don't see it insulting. The fact is the eagles will lose some more games, who knows how many but they won't go though the year with one loss. The only constant thing in life is change, no team can keep winning forever.

I am not saying we are gonna win by 10 goals, that would be insulting, but we will get players back and will improve and i see the derby a 50/50 game. You could still win by 10 goals, who knows, but at the end of the day it's just my opinion
 

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Would be disappointed to lose the derby really. I think we are going for our 3rd or 4th win in a row in the derby that is in in front of the WC fans (ie their home game). Gee they must hate that !!
 

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auste1234 said:
Funny this thread started really because i was thinking the same thing.


WCE (Subi) – 50/50 game

I see that as slightly insulting.
Well you'd be a dope then wouldn't you....

The last 5 derbies have gone to the "away" team; the one that hasn't travelled the week before. Do you remember that you beat us by just 8 points after we had played in the cold and the wet on a heavy ground in friggen Tasmania, while you had had a home game the week before. Your coach has said that Freo are always your hardest opponent at Subiaco. We hopefully will not have 6 of our Best 22 out by Round 20, playing half a dozen players with <10 games experience.

You will have travelled the week before, we will have had the home game. Derbies can be unpredictable. Of late, they tend to be close and hard fought. Your club is of course the form team of the competition and would have every right to go in as favourites. However, that often means not a lot when it comes to derbies.

I would think that 50/50 is about right.
 

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We have beaten two top four teams away this year, so it can be done.
Port game will be hard but they are beatable this year and don't seem to have the "fire" that they used too.
The derby against Egirls - the boys will be fired up and not and easy game for the Egirls. I think we will beat them.
Melbourne are soft and not good at Subi. If we can beat them in Melbourne then we can roll them here.
 

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I admire the optimism of some people here but personally I don't think we can do it. With the injuries we've had what else could we expect from this year. Here's to next year.
 

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Adelaide (away) - They arnt the rabble they were last year... 20 point loss

WBulldogs (home) - They arnt as weak as you think... we were lucky to beat them during the pre season but anyway... 5 point win

Carlton (away) – Its in melbourne but we play well there in recent times. However were playing crap now so... 8 point win

Melbourne (home) – playing good teams at Subi, especially fast teams mean... 19 point loss

Pies (away) – They are improving so i guess it depends on our injury toll. In any case ... 5 point loss

Richmond (home) – we stuggle against their line up of talls. This could really stretch us if we are again short of backs... 5 point win but i could be wrong given our woeful skills at Subi

WCE (Subi) – we can win but we wont... 26 point loss

St Kilda (home) – 15 points loss

Port (away) – 15 point loss

I count about 3 more wins but if we get injury free, Ill revise that. Unfortunately, I think this season is cursed and we could possibly even win fewer than that
 

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I admire the optimism of some people here but personally I don't think we can do it. With the injuries we've had what else could we expect from this year. Here's to next year.
There will be a few surprises before the season is over and we are capable of turning thing around. We are only one win from being in the hunt again.
Here is to next year and under CC's great leadership and football mind, we will be a top four team.
 

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It's too hard to predict at this stage considering how we were going prior to the break. If we are competitive against the crows and beat the dogs convincingly we can win 6 of 9 and maybe sneak into the 8. If we play like we did in the month before the split round against the crows we will be belted, and will struggle against the dogs who have plenty of pace and will be suited to Subiaco.
 

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CC has basically got the fight of his life on his hands. There will need to be some changes and risks taken with the game plan and try to pull off another few McPharlin at FF discoveries.

CC would like to have been careful with his stars and not to have to rush back McPharlin, Walker and Matty Carr too quickly and risk re-injuring them but practically speaking time for conservative practice is probably gone and they're need to play and regain match fitness out on the field as soon as they're able to play. To hopefully rebuild team confidence by getting some wins on the board.

I dont know if its possible to make the 8, certainly the fact that the season is so even this year will help us. The first thing is giving Adelaide a 4 quarter fight to the finish and a win against the dogs and play each week like its your last. Getting our best team on the field will help get the side back on track. Our lack of depth has been brutally shown but has unearthed some players of the future too. Mundy, Johnson, Crowley, Dodd all shown their inexperience but shown some talent. Mundy seems to have heaps of it too.

A few more losses like we've been having and all hell will break loose. It seems as if theres a civil war already breaking out. The MOB's pre-occupation with Freo culture and AGM's are just a smokescreen. Success on the field doesnt have anything to do with being more Freo this and that and more democracy. Look at the dark side what suburban culture do they have or AGMs ? Its all down to the coach instilling the will to succeed and the ability to put a plan that will achieve that. Thats the task of CC etc.
 

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No doubt our team does (at least should) go into every game not only trying to win but expecting to win.

As the the game against adelaide draws closer we will hear the words, 'make it a close game', 'show some spirit', if this and if that.

Sorry not good enough.
By the end of the week I expect to hear from Belly, Pav, CC, Rick Hart, CD anybody who represents Freo that they are going to AAMI not only hoping to win but will win. Whatever they say amongst themselves is their buisness, but winning to me isnt about hoping and wishing its about stating your intentions and then going out and doing it.

It's too late to set goals.

It's time the club and players got over this rabble image and start to project an image of purpose and strength.

When losing is an option it is the easy way out. I want to hear from Fremantle Football Club say that winning is the only outcome they entertain. When they start to project that image and consider no other option then the team will respond.
 

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Yea I agree, its a matter of setting a high standard and not being prepared to accept a performance\effort less than that. This should go as far as dragging players for poor efforts which rarely occur if ever.

I maybe wrong here and if so I'll accept being corrected CC has not set a higher enough standard. A couple times he has stated a loss as being a "honourable loss" and thus being acceptable. He has also not taken a stand with a player for fear of losing him or backing him in....Farmer and Medhurst. I feel that this makes lower performance acceptable. Whilst obviously others havent been backed in hence the "scapegoat" tag with TLo etc.

This may well be occurring behind closed doors but perhaps a public exhibition might drive a point home a little harder to players and generate a little more respect from supporters.

That said, I'll keep my opinions of CC til season end before I decide on his efforts.
 
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nice dream but i think it will turn out to be a nightmare and this time next year cc will just be a memory
 

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nice dream but i think it will turn out to be a nightmare and this time next year cc will just be a memory
CC will still be there until 2007 and hopefully longer. He is the best coach Freo can have and will get into the top 8 this year.
 

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Adelaide (away) - They arnt the rabble they were last year... 20 point loss

WBulldogs (home) - They arnt as weak as you think... we were lucky to beat them during the pre season but anyway... 5 point win

Carlton (away) – Its in melbourne but we play well there in recent times. However were playing crap now so... 8 point win

Melbourne (home) – playing good teams at Subi, especially fast teams mean... 19 point loss

Pies (away) – They are improving so i guess it depends on our injury toll. In any case ... 5 point loss

Richmond (home) – we stuggle against their line up of talls. This could really stretch us if we are again short of backs... 5 point win but i could be wrong given our woeful skills at Subi

WCE (Subi) – we can win but we wont... 26 point loss

St Kilda (home) – 15 points loss

Port (away) – 15 point loss

I count about 3 more wins but if we get injury free, Ill revise that. Unfortunately, I think this season is cursed and we could possibly even win fewer than that
Good assessment there marcy.

Chances are we might pull a win out of the hat somewhere (as players return) so I tend to think we might finish with 4 wins from those games, but otherwise I thin you will be spot on.

As such I'm predicting we'll miss the 8 and finish in our usual spot. CCs future will depend on how many insipid efforts we see on the field, i.e. if we miss the 8 but show some G&D I don't think he will have any worries.
 

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I agree slacker , If the team goes out and does not have the passion or spirit and some fight , we wont do anygood .

I firmly believe we are a good top 8 side (as most scribs had us in there pre-season tips for the finals) something is not right . To see our last quarter against the bombers and also our last quarter against the Kanga`s shows the team lacks the passion .

I wont use injuries as a excuse and believe we have been fed this from the club to deflect some pressure . Which is a very risky move , as what excuses will the club use when our players are back ?? The Western Bulldogs have lost there Captain Darcy and also Grant and yet are still fighting games out and playing with some pride . and are well coached . Ive looked at our side and we still have some class players in the side . Injuries are a easy excuse .

The bottom line is that we have won only 5 games from our last 17 games . Our home record is going southwards .

CC has let myself down , starting from last season we only needed 1 win from our last 4 games and could`nt do that .
We fail in the crunch games and on the big stage games . Ok before someone reminds me yes we have beaten Geelong and Melb this year away . This proves my point that we are playing below what we should .

Since CC been onboard , we have been kept goaless in quarters around 15 times (approx) alot of those times were after CC tried some build the game up media stuff ie
Saints vrs Dockers - cc says this is like Ali vrs Frasier (flogged at subi)
Collingwood vrs Dockers last season crunch game - CC appears on footy show with a plate of fish and chips joking around and not taking it seriously .
CC has got serious this year , but still is not hard enough on the players . Look at him in the coaches box when things dont go right he waves his arms around and has a go at the other coaches in our box . Yet walks on the field and does`nt show any emotion or spirit to the players . I heard him this year say , its from the past to flog players after a bad loss and make them run around freo at 6:00am in the morning etc . Looks to have worked for Port who were forced to do a early morning workout on the beach .

I was totally surprised that they extended his contract prior to the season . But i will support him as he has a contract . But please show us some spirit , passion and be more forceful on our protected players .

We wont make the 8 this season .

With 5 wins from the last 17 games we are kidding ourselves to think we will finally turn it around in the last 9 games . As sad as that is for me and all Dockers fans .

:mad:
 

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I would think that 50/50 is about right.
Seriously, if the game was this week, do you think Freo would come in with odds under $2.30?

Connolly would be better off putting his contract payout on West Coast, and then throwing the game. Most Freo fans wouldn't be able to tell the difference.....
 

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CC will still be there until 2007 and hopefully longer. He is the best coach Freo can have and will get into the top 8 this year.

And you can collect your cheque from Rick Hart whenever you're ready!
 
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