* Still missing *Malaysian Airlines plane with 239 on board

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Why dont they just keep searching before coming up with these assumptions? Surely its better to just keep looking instead of coming to conclusions without having any idea whatsoever of what happened.
 

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Wasn't everyone on here saying that it could definitely NOT be hijacked and that it DEFINITELY crashed into the ocean?:rolleyes:
To be fair, within the first 3-5 days, anything but crashing into the ocean was merely a conspiracy theory. It would have been logical to suggest being crashed into the ocean. But after about 4 days, the situation changed. My initial thought was plane crashed into ocean. After 4-5 days I was thinking hijacking. Its all in here. Then I said I'd be worried about a future event, like at the MCG, I was laughed at.
 

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If the plane was hijacked for a september 11 style attack you would think the attack would have already occurred. Waiting this long just gives anti terrorism agents time to thwart the operation. Motives are so unclear, but I suspect that the hijackers have been in contact with the US/China/Malaysia for some time now (if the plane is still intact)
 

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So do we assume that the stolen passport duo are the hijackers? Or the pilots have gone rogue? Or another option? This really is an amazing story, hope the passengers are still alive out there somewhere but I personally very much doubt it.
Disagree - gut feeling is that most passengers, if not all, are very much alive.

If you go to such an elaborate plan, I can't see why you would simply fly it into the ocean. They would've known how many miles it was to Beijing, how much fuel was spare etc -

This plane is down somewhere in the Kazakhstan Iraq region IMO and geez we need to be alert if this is the case. Unbelievable.
 

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Possibility that the plane went so high up was to suffocate the passengers and crew, then the plane dropped altitude and cruised to its final location.
 

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If the plane was hijacked for a september 11 style attack you would think the attack would have already occurred. Waiting this long just gives anti terrorism agents time to thwart the operation. Motives are so unclear, but I suspect that the hijackers have been in contact with the US/China/Malaysia for some time now (if the plane is still intact)
It hasn't been hijacked for a mass murder type of situation. This thing goes deeper than terrorism; governments and various organisations are involved. I believe it has been hijacked for the important intellectual property on board.
 
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The 777 can't safely hit 45000 with the set oxygen levels. Hypoxia would have taken everyone out without extra oxygen.

Once neutralised, return to 23000ft and proceed with plan
I thought that ceiling on the recommended cruising altitude was more based on the efficiency of the engines, not the oxygen levels.
 

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Disagree - gut feeling is that most passengers, if not all, are very much alive.

If you go to such an elaborate plan, I can't see why you would simply fly it into the ocean. They would've known how many miles it was to Beijing, how much fuel was spare etc -

This plane is down somewhere in the Kazakhstan Iraq region IMO and geez we need to be alert if this is the case. Unbelievable.
Yep, imagine if the plane has been loaded with explosives for a suicide mission. Shiiitttee
 

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Disagree - gut feeling is that most passengers, if not all, are very much alive.

If you go to such an elaborate plan, I can't see why you would simply fly it into the ocean. They would've known how many miles it was to Beijing, how much fuel was spare etc -

This plane is down somewhere in the Kazakhstan Iraq region IMO and geez we need to be alert if this is the case. Unbelievable.
I hope you're right - but it seems like a lot of (distressed) people to be feeding/looking after etc for over a week now.
 
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it would be at what's known as coffin corner where the wing stalls. it's ceiling is 43,100...it's not certified for 45,000...no chance of even getting it up that high at 70ton of fuel onboard.
Although it appears that the plane did get that high. Obviously the radar readings are inconclusive as such.
 

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Found this

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/media/IntroAviationPhys.pdf

1-4

A human clothed in everyday street apparel, rapidly exposed to an altitude of 45,000
feet, would become unconsciousness in 9 - 12 seconds with death shortly following. The
dangerous element here is the reduced partial pressure of oxygen found at this altitude.
Since air is a mixture of gases, it will behave as such and, therefore, is subject to the laws
that govern all gases. The following laws explain the effects of reduced barometric
pressure and its interplay on the human body.


and on 3-3 there is a table of Time of Useful Consciousness (TUC)
 
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